manunited1919
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If they make it official then we are set.To my mind Fergie is our current DOF and it’s going great....
If they make it official then we are set.To my mind Fergie is our current DOF and it’s going great....
Becareful with your wording. Overlooks the signing of players - definitely yes. Overlook the signing of manager? Do you mean the Football manager reports to DOF, or the DOF advise the Board when they interview candidate of the manager post? Likewise, when your DOF is vacant, your current Manager will also give advice to the Board when they try to recruit a DOF. Advice is 1 thing, decision is made by the Board, as Manager reports to the Board/MD/Chairman, not the DOF.The DOF overlooks the signing of players and managers.
I would also like to see a new DOF sooner, such that player contract situation can be finalised sooner instead of waiting till summer, particularly on who should keep and who can go.Would rather see a DoF coming in now than in the summer.
What you stated is crucial.The DoF needs to be able to have a good professional relationship with the agents without being taken advantage of.
Generally the head coach reports to the DOF, he doesn't have direct access to the board.Becareful with your wording. Overlooks the signing of players - definitely yes. Overlook the signing of manager? Do you mean the Football manager reports to DOF, or the DOF advise the Board when they interview candidate of the manager post? Likewise, when your DOF is vacant, your current Manager will also give advice to the Board when they try to recruit a DOF. Advice is 1 thing, decision is made by the Board, as Manager reports to the Board/MD/Chairman, not the DOF.
To my mind Fergie is our current DOF and it’s going great....
He has never worked as a director of football. I think we will go with someone that has some experience in this job.Mislintat would be an interesting fit for us, but the rumours suggest it’s Munich and not Manchester he’s heading too... Apparently off the back of Arsenal having very little to spend transfer wise.
Would certainly be interesting if the Bayern link is smoke and mirrors, speculation etc and he does come here though.
That’s the key pitfall with a DOF. You need to make sure manager and DOF think enough alike to make it work, which isn’t always possible.Someone please enlightens me, what if a DOF disagree with the manager on hiring a certain players? A DOF signing a player that the manager won't use, or have to be forced to use. Wouldn't it be detrimental to the manager tactics?
Yes and no. A comparison to this is the NFL system: Ower > General Manager (GM) > Head Coach (HC). The GM is heavily involved in player recruitment, and basically runs the scouting department. He also identifies coaching candidates that fit the style and profile the team needs, and when they are in place, he has to help the coach imprint the agreed identity on the team with appropriate draft picks and free agent signings. He also has a financial role in that he has to manage the salary cap for the team. The difference with the Premier League is that, NFL teams are not shy about sacking coaches. If the GM and HC clash over style, tactics/playcalling, one of them usually has to leave because that relationship is basically unworkable (usually the coach). Usually teams hire someone who has been working as a scout under another GM, that fits the style of football they want to play, has shown skill at drafting/free agency, and has the intelligence to manage a very complicated salary cap situation. This job is not just for any old guy.Someone please enlightens me, what if a DOF disagree with the manager on hiring a certain players? A DOF signing a player that the manager won't use, or have to be forced to use. Wouldn't it be detrimental to the manager tactics?
Looks nailed on to be Berta if he accepts our offer.
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He's been mentioned by a host of decent outlets now. It looks as if he will be the DoF at United, assuming he accepts our offer.His names been mentioned by the likes of Di Marzio etc.
I’m not that much clued on which director of football we should go for and the ideal appointment to really restructure the footballing operations at this club. I hope he is the man.
He's been mentioned by a host of decent outlets now. It looks as if he will be the DoF at United, assuming he accepts our offer.
I think he seems to be a very good candidate for the job and the club have been on his trail for well over a year if you believe reports from the usually reliable Gianluca Di Marzio. Which have been backed up by Cadena Ser in Spain who are also a reliable outlet.As mentioned, I ain’t that much clued on which DoF we should go for as a lot of folk on here were wanting Mitchell (scout that worked with Poch at Southampton & Spurs) from Leipzig.
Do you think Berta is the ideal candidate for the role obviously assuming he accepts our offer? Or should we have gone for someone else? It’s the one appointment we need to get spot on as failing to do so is going to set us back even further.
Mitchell and Berta could work together if the club decide to adopt the RB Leipzig model which I quite like personally.Berta coming in wouldn't rule out the possibility of Paul Mitchell being recruited as well. I'm assuming they could both work together based on what I've read previously. I really hope he decides to join us, it'll be fantastic to finally have a similar footballing structure to other top European clubs. These appointments are just as important as our managerial decision (Maybe Olé can be given the reins, now that we're hopefully going to have a stellar footballing hierarchy above the coach to assist him)
Using your description. Arsenal has a structure likeGenerally the head coach reports to the DOF, he doesn't have direct access to the board.
He reports to the head of football.Using your description. Arsenal has a structure like
Position Name
Chairman Sir Chips Keswick
Managing Director Vinai Venkatesham
Head of Football Raul Sanllehi
Head of Recruitment Sven Mislintat
Head Coach Unai Emery
Do you mean Emery reports to Sanllehi or Mislinstat?
What you described may be also true for Man City. But would you say the same structure under Dortmund - Favre reporting to Zorc; Barcelona Valverde reporting to Mestre?He reports to the head of football.
Yes, it's true almost everywhere. The exceptions are generally due to the fact that the DOF's superiors bypass him, El Khelaifi at PSG or Perez at Madrid are examples but it's not always true, Leonardo sacked Kombouaré and brought his man in Ancelotti.What you described may be also true for Man City. But would you say the same structure under Dortmund - Favre reporting to Zorc; Barcelona Valverde reporting to Mestre?
I don't think he'd have any problems adapting to a different approach in transfer expectations. The style of play will be dictated by who the head coach is.Berta has worked under a regime that plays a style that we as a club don't want to be associated with moving forward though. Would he be able to adapt to the different transfer expectations?
Yes. If that happens then the club backs DoF and sacks the manager, unless we are talking for a very top manager in which case the DoF gets sacked.Someone please enlightens me, what if a DOF disagree with the manager on hiring a certain players? A DOF signing a player that the manager won't use, or have to be forced to use. Wouldn't it be detrimental to the manager tactics?
That can still happen without a director of football as we saw with Jose and our board. The important part is you hire a DOF and a manager with the same outlook, even then I'm sure there will be still be some differences. Where a DOF helps us is it takes some of the pressure of the manager. Ole and even Poch to a lesser degree aren't experienced in the big transfers we'd be potentially looking at. It lets them concentrate on managing with one less thing to worry about.Someone please enlightens me, what if a DOF disagree with the manager on hiring a certain players? A DOF signing a player that the manager won't use, or have to be forced to use. Wouldn't it be detrimental to the manager tactics?
Jesus Christ, there is so much speculation and guess work in this post.Personally, I don't see it happening anytime soon, as Woodward (who wants to be in charge of everything to do with the club) will not want to relinquish any control.
He hired Jose, because he knew Jose is a serial winner and is a highly qualified manager. When Jose gave him a list of names (players to buy), he overruled these and said, "no".
If he did this to Jose, he'll do it to pretty much any manager.
Woodie wants absolute control and given that MUFC is growing under his watch, the Glazers are not going to argue against this. They're happy with the way things are progressing.