To be fair a lot of players from English teams will cost a lot, it’s getting the right player in that’s the trick.Yeah, Van Djik and Mane were probably the biggest possible signings that Liverpool could get at the time. One of them even broke the transfer record for defenders. Hardly the work of a genius scout that.
I do think it's fair to say that Salah was a fine transfer, though. He was not nearly as obvious as the other two.
Makes you wonder why they didn't, then?"Transfer guru"
Literally any football manager and PES players knew about the players he signed.
Somehow all of European top teams all fell asleep and let City got a free run at KDB, to be fair.Makes you wonder why they didn't, then?
They wanted him before he went to Chelsea and both clubs wanted him because of his talent showed at Basel.I don't remember the whole story, but didn't Chelsea get rid of Salah because he wasn't deemed good enough? And then Liverpool took a chance on him after a few years in Italy?
Jobs for the boys FC.Funny lot United fans. On one hand crying out for structure, on the other hand “he only signed obvious targets”. Who do you expect us to put in that job, a fortune teller?
Like my sister in law, a grown adult with three children, who every year in the Secret Santa group asks for "a surprise". Okay then. Here's a cordless angle grinder. Now feck off.Funny lot United fans. On one hand crying out for structure, on the other hand “he only signed obvious targets”. Who do you expect us to put in that job, a fortune teller?
Obviously they could only join one club. And it was more about the right time. Me personally I wanted Salah and Mane, but especially Mane. He was a no brainer signing.Makes you wonder why they didn't, then?
Maybe he did a good job. I have no problem with us wanting him if it's true, my problem is him being called a "transfer guru" as if he unearthed Messi and Haaland from an unknown league.I think that’s a bit harsh.
What would be a very useful asset of having him is his ability to fetch decent fees for dispensable or young players that are surplus to requirements. Some of the fees Liverpool have got for selling unwanted players has been crazy.
He got £24m for Brewster!
Seems like the same role, which is why I'm starting to believe there is something in it.Is this a different job to the one Van Der Sar was linked to?
Funny lot United fans. On one hand crying out for structure, on the other hand “he only signed obvious targets”. Who do you expect us to put in that job, a fortune teller?
Easy to say that in hindsight. Everyone here was ridiculing the Dippers when they went after Mane and VVD.Yeah, Van Djik and Mane were probably the biggest possible signings that Liverpool could get at the time. One of them even broke the transfer record for defenders. Hardly the work of a genius scout that.
I do think it's fair to say that Salah was a fine transfer, though. He was not nearly as obvious as the other two.
Yep. He’s heavily biased towards Chelsea tooI expect this will be done in a couple of days then if that is what this chancer is saying.
Is that really true? Granted I was not a member then, but I remember my United supporting friends being annoyed that Liverpool got Van Djik. The ridicule was mainly based on the price tag, which seemed excessive back then.Easy to say that in hindsight. Everyone here was ridiculing the Dippers when they went after Mane and VVD.
YES, literally anyone would know who these players were and it was obvious to everyone they’d help Liverpool win their first league title in 3 decades. I mean Salah the Chelsea reject; Mane not good enough for United; Robertson + Wijnaldum relegation fodder; and VVD the overpriced and overhyped CB. Yes absolutely obvious that they’d become class at Liverpool. Edwards is rubbish."Transfer guru"
Literally any football manager and PES players knew about the players he signed.
I agree with this.The thing about "obvious signings" is that look a lot more obvious in hindsight when they've worked out and a lot less obvious when they haven't.
Not a transfer guru when everyone knew about those players. Good at transfers? maybe. Guru? nah.YES, literally anyone would know who these players were and it was obvious to everyone they’d help Liverpool win their first league title in 3 decades. I mean Salah the Chelsea reject; Mane not good enough for United; Robertson + Wijnaldum relegation fodder; and VVD the overpriced and overhyped CB. Yes absolutely obvious that they’d become class at Liverpool. Edwards is rubbish.
Yeah, he's an idiot.Isn’t this the clown pushing De Jong to Chelsea for all of last summer?
A man that can fetch 40m for Ibe and Solanke is a genius no ifs and buts about it.Oh God, he’d instantly be heralded as the reason we’re good again (if that happens). I expect him to be a bit shite elsewhere and prove that Klopp and his coaching was the real genius there, just as it was at Dortmund.
For what it's worth Edwards had a grand total of 0 years experience when he took on what Murtough is doing now, at Liverpool. He often got hounded for poor decisions and then the rest is history.Yeah exactly. I think partially what we're lacking at the moment is someone with connections and relationships across different clubs in Europe. Murtough might have the vision and the right idea, but he's never had to do that part of the job.
Having someone like Edwards resolves that without having to use intermediaries like in the Woodward era
That's irrelevant because he does have that experience now though. Why do we want Murtough going through exactly the same learning curve, when we can bring someone in to work for/with him who's already been on that journey and come out of the end of it with some good credit?For what it's worth Edwards had a grand total of 0 years experience when he took on what Murtough is doing now, at Liverpool. He often got hounded for poor decisions and then the rest is history.
Indeed, there were a number of people who didn't want Sadio Mane anywhere near the club. People laughed that they were after van Dijk "another Southampton player, lol" was the prevalent attitude.The thing about "obvious signings" is that they look a lot more obvious in hindsight when they've worked out and a lot less obvious when they haven't.
Fabinho was rejected by us in favour of Matic.Indeed, there were a number of people who didn't want Sadio Mane anywhere near the club. People laughed that they were after van Dijk "another Southampton player, lol" was the prevalent attitude.
Fabinho, another one who was 50/50 in the forum. Andy Robertson was a relegation fodder full back. Salah was a Chelsea reject ...
Probably reinforces Edwards case, I am talking more about the mood on the forum surrounding these transfers.Fabinho was rejected by us in favour of Matic.
So what did Michael Guru Edwards do then? he was the one who negotiated the transfers?The Liverpool transfers targets were identified by Dave Fallows and Barry Hunter with the exception of Sadio Mane who Klopp reportedly signed after the Liverpool recruitment team had deemed him not good enough under Brendan Rodgers. And Klopp pushed through and over-ruled the Liverpool recruitment department over Mane because he'd kept a close eye on the player for, 4 years since he appeared at Red Bull Salzburg.
Like any high level job, he's not actually out there personally scouting these people.So what did Michael Guru Edwards do then? he was the one who negotiated the transfers?
Yeah dreadful sourceThat guy isn’t reliable unfortunately.
I must admit I didn’t rate VVD back then, I thought he was good but not great, I thought that from watching him at Celtic he showed that he was missing out on headers. How wrong I was! We ended up with Lindelof. FMLIndeed, there were a number of people who didn't want Sadio Mane anywhere near the club. People laughed that they were after van Dijk "another Southampton player, lol" was the prevalent attitude.
Fabinho, another one who was 50/50 in the forum. Andy Robertson was a relegation fodder full back. Salah was a Chelsea reject ...
Yeah but expect the likes of Whitwell & Ducker to remain quiet on it until they are sure there is anything in the story at allDavid Ornstein reported in August about Edwards turning Chelsea turn down and him wanting to take a break from football. It was also said that he was settled in Cheshire and didn't want to relocate.
The news that came out today about Edwards isn't from a reliable source, so we'd need someone more credible to corroborate the earlier report. But credible journos have reported in the last 6 months about United wanting to add Edwards to the structural side of the football club. And the report from earlier today is basically saying that United are willing to wait for Edwards to join the club next summer. That's sounds believable if it wasn't from a questionable source.
