If what we are hearing about INEOS is true (aka no bullshit made up by views hungry entitled United bloggers who I hate (almost) all), then Marcus Rashford will definitely leave the club. 100%. He's everything opposite to what INEOS recruitment policy should (again according to those attention seeking all knowing Man Utd bloggers who produce "breaking" shows 3 to 4 times a day) look like, i.e. shit player (this season I must admit but you know famous INEOS recruitment policy - there's no past only performance) with big salary and questionable attitude.
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It's still shit. You don't need to to be sprinting full pelt at players to press but you need urgency in your movement to keep them honest.
Everything up to 24 seconds is okay because it's 1 vs 3 but from 24 seconds on, the Chelsea player is turned away from his defenders and Rashford allows him to potter forward at his own ease to pick a pass.
After the Chelsea player had turned his back on his defence and looked upfield, that is when you press with lots of aggression.
Pause it on 26 seconds. Chelsea player turned away from his defence. His options up the field generally covered. Then you hunt him and hope to force a turnover or poor pass.
Rashford jogs beside him giving their attackers time to move around and free themselves.
For Rashford that's the market rate after scored over 30 goals in a season unfortunately, just like Aubameyang in Arsenal back then.
Ducking out of the way too. Never a good look.
Sometimes I feel people haven’t noticed what we had in 2008. Just go watch clips of Tevez and Rooney and compare it to Rashford’s. And then come back with “nothing wrong with this clip”
thankfully its an isolated incident
No offense to that person who posted that, but the "context" makes it look worse and they don't know what they're talking about about.
If you're cutting off passing lanes, how are you doing that at that level of intensity. It wasn't a low block either because he let the player ball just stroll round him.
Watch any game from any other team and you'd see the difference. It can be seen weekly just by watching any other football match.
He's a disgrace and I am completely sick of him
The mental gymnastics here are quite something
In the first video I see him not giving a toss and walking around whereas in the 2nd video I see him not giving a toss and walking around
To be honest, last season was Maguire, and the season before was Ronaldo. This season is Rashford, may be add Bruno in this list as well. It is indeed not an isolated incident. Just sell him or release him for free + pay up his contract like Arsenal did to Aubameyang/Ozil, and move on. You want a cultural reset then start with Rashford. No player is bigger than the club.
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I still don’t get why didn’t.l put pressure on Chelsea’s #20. He was a yard away
Regressed so badly and we really need to move him on for big money if the chance arises. I’m less confident of who we can bring in to replace what he is supposed to offer in the team though. I don’t simply want a player who can come in and better Rashford at his very worst, I want a player who can match Rashford at his best - which is an extremely small market.
Perhaps Garnacho can replace him directly and become that 15+ PL goal winger. Greenwood would have made it easier to replace Rashford as he’d have been an 18 goal wide player himself by now, which would have allowed for more of a creator on the left. But we need a couple of top class goal threats in the front line.
Nevertheless, a solution needs to be found, as we are getting too little for our money with Rashford now, and it doesn’t pay for him to be here as some sort of squad player. Anything short of being the main difference maker in the frontline is not worth what we pay.
Perhaps Garnacho can replace him directly and become that 15+ PL goal winger. Greenwood would have made it easier to replace Rashford as he’d have been an 18 goal wide player himself by now, which would have allowed for more of a creator on the left. But we need a couple of top class goal threats in the front line.
Nevertheless, a solution needs to be found, as we are getting too little for our money with Rashford now, and it doesn’t pay for him to be here as some sort of squad player. Anything short of being the main difference maker in the frontline is not worth what we pay.
Ive no idea what they were trying to say. Yes everything is fine for the first 15 seconds, and at that point its absolutely blatant that he needs to put pressure on. Its as apalling as it looks in the initial clip
I think Garnacho can make that step. He’s progressed tremendously this year from solely being an impact player to impacting a full 90. Remember in pre-season or at the start of the season when he’d start but look completely off the pace and lost. Now look at him.
He’s on 7 prem goals (same as Rashford now) this year so should hit 10 by the end of the year. Going from 10 to 15 should be doable in HOPEFULLY a better functioning side next year.
I’m with you though, if we get a sniff of interest from PSG we should be doing what we can to get some decent cash for him and wages off the books. Will help so much with FFP leverage too to reinvest in the squad.
I hate how we judge players on goals, I do not care how many he gets as long as he plays well.
It wasn't clear to me either. Pressing isn't running around like a mad man, you can do it effectively by getting to someone quickly. Ambling around and claiming you're cutting off passing lanes is Sunday league shit.
He’s a fecking forward. I don’t believe in judging ‘players’ on goals, but you have to use them to judge goalscorers! If your goalscorers don’t score enough goals, you won’t win enough games. Ours don’t, and we don’t.
All that matters is how many goals the team scores, how many goals an individual scores is not an accurate indication of his effect on this.
He's also pretty low on lists of assists and chances created. Surely these stats in combination with goals scored, is a pretty good indicator that he hasn't been doing a good job as a forward this season?
A team scores its goals by its individuals scoring them.
But an individual scoring goals doesn't mean that his overall affect towards is positive, just as a player who doesn't score can have a much bigger positive affect towards the team scoring than someone who does score.
Yea, he can be the type of player that if he doesn't score, he's not contributing much.
We all judged Rashford for playing amazing last year because… wait for it… he scored a lot of goals. He wasn’t running more or pressing more effectively than he is this season in my opinion, he was just making better attacking decisions to get in better positions to score, whilst also being more clinical. This season he hasn’t scored anywhere near the same amount of GOALS, and rightly so, his performances have been seriously questioned as a result as that is what he offers to the team, goals.
He is meant to be one of main goal scorers in the team alongside Højlund, so yes, if we are HYPOTHETICALLY talking about selling Rashford and looking for Garnacho to replace his role as one of the main goal scorers in the side, then yes, there would be an expectation for Garnacho to continue his progression, step up and aim to score 15 prem goals. I’m almost certain he will st himself that target next year anyway, he just seems like that type of lad.
I get the overall sentiment that the team scoring, performing and getting results is the most important thing, of course it is. But we’re talking about an individual here and for me Garnacho is looking like more of a goal scoring wide player than a more creative wide player like a Grealish or Doku, whose focus is not all about goals or even assists necessarily. My hope is he develops his game to do a bit of both, like a Saka type forward. That’s the ideal type of forward considering we have a pure no. 9 now in Hojlund who also needs feeding.
He is meant to be one of main goal scorers in the team alongside Højlund, so yes, if we are HYPOTHETICALLY talking about selling Rashford and looking for Garnacho to replace his role as one of the main goal scorers in the side, then yes, there would be an expectation for Garnacho to continue his progression, step up and aim to score 15 prem goals. I’m almost certain he will st himself that target next year anyway, he just seems like that type of lad.
I get the overall sentiment that the team scoring, performing and getting results is the most important thing, of course it is. But we’re talking about an individual here and for me Garnacho is looking like more of a goal scoring wide player than a more creative wide player like a Grealish or Doku, whose focus is not all about goals or even assists necessarily. My hope is he develops his game to do a bit of both, like a Saka type forward. That’s the ideal type of forward considering we have a pure no. 9 now in Hojlund who also needs feeding.
A player can’t have a positive affect towards the team scoring if nobody actually scores.
You need forwards to score some goals.
Yes of course, but we are not talking about no one on the team scoring.
Yea, but for example firmino didn't get many goals or assists. He was amazing.
But, he consistently does neither.
What we are talking about is the difference between a team that scores enough goals and a team that doesn’t. And a team without players who can post good numbers individually will mot score enough goals. So the idea of dismissing goalscoring as a meaningful metric, especially for strikers, is bizzare.
Which was acceptable because the guys next to him scored loads and loads. Rashford is not the Firmino in the team, he’s the one who’s supposed to score 20+ goals. His failure to do that this season is a large part of why we are where we are. We have a lack of points because we scored a lack of goals to earn those points. If Rashford is to leave, I would like to think the idea is for someone to come in and hopefully score those goals. There is no point adding a Firmino if there is no Salah or Mané for him to create for.
Iniesta scored 35 goals across 17 years in the best Barcelona team that’s ever existed. Guess he’s shit, then.
What did you think Rashford's main asset was last season when he was praised?
Wasn’t @Hammondo ’s comment in relation to Garnacho? This is a rather confusing page to follow.
Iniesta passed the ball and tackled.
Je sais pas
Scoring, obviously, because people see goals think that proves a player. Now many have realized it doesn't.
We were talking about Garnacho btw, and I wasn't making a specific comment about either player, just in general. Yes we need more goals, but a players effect on that is not necessarily down to his own personal goal amount.
Btw this chat was originally about Garnacho, and yes I think Rashford even when scoring is more often a negative for our goal scoring overall. I think it would not be that difficult to find a wide player who scored less than Rashford did last season, but help us score more overall.
It is not bizzare, and hes not a striker.