I'm ok with Fred, first 25 minutes he was good. On the weekend, we'll beat Fulham 6-1 and our fans will be start bashing people who don't like this partnership. Here's the truth. Today, we opened up because we had nothing to lose. Maguire being injured exposed how bad our defence is without him, but more importantly, going toe to toe with Liverpool exposed where we are weakest. We struggle in our build up, not because our defenders can't pass, but out midfielders are poor technically. Fred struggles to trap a ball despite his hustle, Mctominay hides. I remember you saying this midfield were as good as Liverpool's. It's not. Wijnaldum is able to manuever on the ball and take advantage of one on one situations. He can move the ball on his own without support and that's the difference. Neither Mctominay or Fred are good one on one players, so when pressed, they are easily relieved of the ball or succomb to terrible wayward passes. Due to high teams press on the ball these days ( this is the new midfield battle), midfielders have to be good at being able to turn, hold the ball and make quick decisions. Neither Fred or Mctominay are capable of doing that consistently, and against top teams, this gets exposed time and again. Fred is ok to start. His press and willingness to pass make him acceptable. Mctominay is not good enough for a United starting midfielder.