Both of the players are quite known quantities now having lit up the Champions league, its not quite unearthing gems etc, its only a matter of striking a deal now, I think Murtough and co are capable of it even if they'll mostly overspend, need Ten Hag to fixate on such quality targets.
Mykhaylo Mudryk
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There are quite a few players who are similar to Kvaratskhelia's style right now - even our very own "generational talent" (according to the cafe at that time) Sancho. I haven't seen a player like Mudryk's style in a while - closest I could think of was Bale at Spurs and early Real and even Giggs when he broke through.
We cannot afford them, anymore.
Now that they are known, if they keep up like this all season - we are not gonna have a chance with either even if we try our best
Agree, IMO Kvaratskhelia is on another level.
Apart from City, Real, Barca I dont think our player pulling power is far off from other top teams and if we get into Champions league places which I'm fairly confident about, I expect us to be in the running for the top talents on the continent.Arsenal were the team strongly linked with Mudryk in the summer, I think we can do better with money and club stature than Arsenal if we are in the fray.
Kvara's main skill is direct dribbling. Sancho is not a dribbler. Similar style????
Unfortunately, I am fairly certain that list (clubs ahead of us) is longer.
Liverpool probably still stronger, Chelsea without a doubt.
EtH gave us a huge boost and a lot will depend on how we do this season, how others will do, too. But it's no secret for anybody that Glazers have made this club A MESS, and many players are wary of that.
Yeah... Also – feck the style, dude. Kvara's main skill is scoring goals and having assists. If Sancho was doing either of those, I wouldn't care about his style, but one can only dream...
Kvara is a self-sufficient player - his dribbling allows him to create the space for himself to create/scoreYeah... Also – feck the style, dude. Kvara's main skill is scoring goals and having assists. If Sancho was doing either of those, I wouldn't care about his style, but one can only dream...
Sancho is somewhat of a system player, since he can't create space for himself he needs his teammates to do it for him. The problem he has imo is Bruno Fernandes. Sancho needs to be the focal point of the attack to be effective, but your attack is built around Bruno
I get the point @Freak is making, though. You have fast wingers, and you have fast wingers. It seems like Mudryk is very much the latter. That sheer explosive speed he has would be such a weapon wherever he goes
Sancho and rashford say hiiii
Sorry but this sounds like a bunch of excuses. Also, it's odd to hear a winger being the "focal point of the attack". He is not a striker, ffs, he should be creating and assisting, but also finishing when appropriate. Sancho is too slow and not showing nearly the level we were hoping for. Bruno has nothing to do with that.
Seems Arsenal are leading the race to get him
Makes sense with Zinchenko probably being a big factor. In theory they don’t have a place in the starting XI for them but maybe he has enough talent to challenge Martinelli.
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Mykhaylo Mudryk vs Khvicha Kvaratskhelia
This is a battle of names, if nothing else. It took me a weekend, but I can now pronounce Khvicha Kvaratskhelia, so he gets my vote.
This is a battle of names, if nothing else. It took me a weekend, but I can now pronounce Khvicha Kvaratskhelia, so he gets my vote.
Quality player. Unfortunately not in a position we’re likely to prioritise
He's a great prospect, but people who say he would bench Rashford, Sancho or both are way off the mark.
Sancho lacks the explosiveness that Mudryk has. I think ETH will either try him centrally or phase him out eventually.
I'd drop £100m on Kvaratskhelia easily but I wouldn't spend half that on Mudryk. Kvicha is clearly the real deal whereas we still have no idea how Mudryk would fare against packed defences.
I tend to agree.
I don't believe Arsenal will sign him for anything near the reported asking price. He has scored most of his goals in counter-attacking systems, has almost exclusively played LW during his career, and largely played in an extremely weak Ukrainian league, only really producing much end product relatively recently. He is a 40-50m player at the very most and even that is possibly an overpay.
What Shaktar sporting director said last month:
“We value Mudryk more than United’s Antony – £85m. Floating between Arsenal and Man City? They are two teams that have taken an interest in the player.
“We value Mudryk more than United’s Antony – £85m. Floating between Arsenal and Man City? They are two teams that have taken an interest in the player.
I'd love to sign the lad, he looks like he could go on and be a star, I'm just worried that our window to get him might have passed, and some bigger richer clubs will now be sniffing about.
Mudryk and Danilo in January would be ideal for us going forward.
I do not see where the hype is coming from at all.. He is really quick but nothing else I've seen from his game equals a near £100m player but hell, anyone goes for that nowadays...
He is basically his whole team’s attacking outlet, pulls inside and plays nearly as a 10 with both feet, then roasts guys down the left with his pace and gets a cross in, much more than just a speed merchant.
He was too expensive for Edu back in summer, now he is even more pricey. I highly doubt it will happen.
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Zaha is available for free in the summer, even he is 30 years old.
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Plays like a right-footed Bale (style wise).
Reminds me a little on Arshavin with slightly more pace.
We have ESR coming back soon, he showed us last season that he was a good player scoring double digit goals. If we sign this guy then we will have four wingers to rotate with.
From my very limited viewing I agree. Kvaraetc looks like a brilliant prospect and he's already showing his ability in one of the big leagues.
For the price being quoted (£60m+, or Antony money £86m ), might as well go for Rafael Leao.
Appears he's coming to the PL, is he any good?
he’s rapid on the counter attack that’s for sure. Not sure what his overall game is like though
Another super long contract.... how come FM and everything I've ever known has maxed contracts at 5 years if longer are actually legal...
I think they've always been legal if the legislation in the country allows for longer fixed term contracts... What FIFA regulates is the maximum duration for which a contract is protected by FIFA. I think these Chelsea contracts aren't meant to go to their term, all players will either get sold before 5 or sign new contracts in the meantime. They are just doing it for accounting purposes, to accommodate FPF. If you buy players for 300 M and do the amortization over 5 years, your yearly cost is 60M. If instead you spread the amortization over 7 years, then you can register an amortization of around 42M/year... Meaning you've lowered your costs by 18 M/year. This can save you from breaching FPF regulations.
Can see it becoming a norm in football with the rising transfer fees. I expected to see it crash after PSGs moves for Neymar and Mbappe but it’s pretty much continues to rise at the lower end of the market. It really is ludicrous. At this point a large % of players are no longer or ever will be worth their transfer fee. Antony was a terrible deal imo and so is this one. Regardless of potential talent. Having said that, it’s a position we actually need and I guess they went for him over first choice Leao for whatever reason.
"Y" instead of 'i"....tell me why
what's brilliant about this is that Mudryk was all about Arsenal and even commented on how he couldn't turn down Arsenal b/c of how much he admired that club....now he's at Chelsea