Exactly. Doesn't matter a single iota what people other than them think. After all, it is the mere pursuit of entertainment for everyone else, but the deconstruction of historical leagues and structures that should, rightly, mean something intimate and personal, to them.Should be awesome. Wonder what the resident Dutch club and Belgian club fans think about this.
Yeah, that’s what I was thinking. Some clubs might miss out on european positions and some clubs might miss out on league status. Wonder which clubs they will relegate in the first year.Exactly. Doesn't matter a single iota what people other than them think. After all, it is the mere pursuit of entertainment for everyone else, but the deconstruction of historical leagues and structures that should, rightly, mean something intimate and personal, to them.
Throw in Armenia and Cyprus to make it extra spicy.I'm still waiting for that Balkans/Greek/Turkish riotous/smoke bombs superleague to get kicked off
Armenia is a bit far from, well, everything.Throw in Armenia and Cyprus to make it extra spicy.
You're talking to an American here. That kind of distance doesn't even get me out of my state.Armenia is a bit far from, well, everything.
Currently it's only €80m so €400m would be huge for them.On the big league checkboard, that's peanuts.
Ooooh let me be serious for a moment: Turkey is like five times the size of Florida, that's the sort of distance those mega-rich Armenian clubs would have to deal with every week to play Serbian or Croatian opponents.You're talking to an American here. That kind of distance doesn't even get me out of my state.
I understand the reasoning behind it, but it's clearly something that only has the bigger clubs in mind. Half the league will be relegated to a lower division, which is a bit of a shame.Yeah, that’s what I was thinking. Some clubs might miss out on european positions and some clubs might miss out on league status. Wonder which clubs they will relegate in the first year.
@KirkDuyt thoughts on this?
I feel like about every big change in sport, particularly those that upset an order that you've know all your life.I understand the reasoning behind it, but it's clearly something that only has the bigger clubs in mind. Half the league will be relegated to a lower division, which is a bit of a shame.
And even with the merger, it's not like we will come closer to the biggest leagues anyway. No one outside our 2 countries gives a feck that Ajax is now playing Anderlecht instead of FC Twente.
I do realize that part of my resistance is based on the all change is bad, old man yells at clous thing.
I don't think your last paragraph is apt here, afterall, the Eredivisie is an institution with proud teams and achievements and a massive historical legacy in world football. Not that the last bit is important to you, but I'm guessing you have emotional ties to almost all the clubs you face (scores to settle, rivalries, fond memories and nice places to visit etc.) and a lot of that is being threatened with either dilution or removal completely with the leagues merging.I understand the reasoning behind it, but it's clearly something that only has the bigger clubs in mind. Half the league will be relegated to a lower division, which is a bit of a shame.
And even with the merger, it's not like we will come closer to the biggest leagues anyway. No one outside our 2 countries gives a feck that Ajax is now playing Anderlecht instead of FC Twente.
I do realize that part of my resistance is based on the all change is bad, old man yells at clous thing.
The issue is that it doesn't stop at the main league and the worst isn't for the ones that are relegated from them but the ones that are relegated from the lowest divison. This will kill some clubs.I feel like about every big change in sport, particularly those that upset an order that you've know all your life.
As for this idea it sounds interesting but I'd feel for the teams that are relegated from the main league.
Those too. Seemingly every decision taken by football suits these days adversely affects those lower down on the ladder the most. Also an opponent of a Euro Super League I also can't help but see talk of amalgamations like this as a slow walk towards more transnational league competition.The issue is that it doesn't stop at the main league and the worst isn't for the ones that are relegated from them but the ones that are relegated from the lowest divison. This will kill some clubs.
They tried something of the sort called the Royal League but i flopped for financial reasons. I think the distances involved would make it hard for fans too. NL and Belgium have a much higher population density and less distance to travel between the major cities.Smart move, the Scandinavian countries should try something like this as well.
The thing is that weidly enough, a super league at continental level would be a better idea than those merger because it has a lesser effect on the smaller clubs because you don't add clubs and push some below but take away few clubs and allow smaller clubs to have access to a brighter light locally. The only potentially major difference would be in terms of TV rights but I'm not as bothered by it because at the end of the day, it would only affect the bottom half of top leagues which is made of clubs that didn't generate that money in the first place, they don't deserve it more than teams in 2nd division.Those too. Seemingly every decision taken by football suits these days adversely affects those lower down on the ladder the most. Also an opponent of a Euro Super League I also can't help but see talk of amalgamations like this as a slow walk towards more transnational league competition.
I think teams just didn't give a shit. With modern air travel, if only Sweden, Norway and Denmark combined their leagues, it could be very much feasible. Hell, SAS might jump at being the lead sponsor.They tried something of the sort called the Royal League but i flopped for financial reasons. I think the distances involved would make it hard for fans too. NL and Belgium have a much higher population density and less distance to travel between the major cities.
NeBe League?I think it's a good plan. BeNe League? They have to come up with a better name for sure.
If the two leagues get bigger, I imagine the entire football pyramid in both countries would, so relegation would still leave the relegated club better off than before. No?I feel like about every big change in sport, particularly those that upset an order that you've know all your life.
As for this idea it sounds interesting but I'd feel for the teams that are relegated from the main league.
They wouldn't, the money is for the top division, the clubs in lower leagues would be affected while not having access to the money boost or TV coverage(some clubs will lose both) and if you distribute the extra money to lower leagues then you negate the point of the merger.If the two leagues get bigger, I imagine the entire football pyramid in both countries would, so relegation would still leave the relegated club better off than before. No?
The Royal League was a cup competition that tried to be a mini CL for Scandinavia, rather than a replacement for the leagues. It was also set in winter, after Norway and Sweden ended their seasons. Most clubs treated it as a friendly competition, and I would compare it to the pre season cups United attend, except it was set in Scandinavian winter.They tried something of the sort called the Royal League but i flopped for financial reasons. I think the distances involved would make it hard for fans too. NL and Belgium have a much higher population density and less distance to travel between the major cities.