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Did you fix that 5-4 U19 game against Scotland?:houllier::lol:
 
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Did you fix that 5-4 U19 game against Scotland?:houllier::lol:
Weirdest set of results I've seen in a long while. First game: Netherlands 6-1 Norway. Final group table after three games: Norway top, Netherlands bottom. :houllier:

It's been a good few days for us after decades of decline and negativity. The seniors finally looking like a team again (with a very young core), the U-21 making a fight of it despite the self-inflicted handicap from their opening game, and both the U-19 and the U-17 making it to the Euros today. Now, the challenge - as always - is to transform some of the youngsters into top-class future footballers (which we've usually failed to do), but here's hoping we'll make a better job of it this time.

Nevertheless, it's pretty feckin' incredible that we hammered the youngsters of the world's best national team and advanced at your expence. You'll always have that 6-0 spanking last September to taunt us with, so I'm sure you'll be gracious enough to let us have our 15 minutes of fame :)
 

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Weirdest set of results I've seen in a long while. First game: Netherlands 6-1 Norway. Final group table after three games: Norway top, Netherlands bottom. :houllier:

It's been a good few days for us after decades of decline and negativity. The seniors finally looking like a team again (with a very young core), the U-21 making a fight of it despite the self-inflicted handicap from their opening game, and both the U-19 and the U-17 making it to the Euros today. Now, the challenge - as always - is to transform some of the youngsters into top-class future footballers (which we've usually failed to do), but here's hoping we'll make a better job of it this time.

Nevertheless, it's pretty feckin' incredible that we hammered the youngsters of the world's best national team and advanced at your expence. You'll always have that 6-0 spanking last September to taunt us with, so I'm sure you'll be gracious enough to let us have our 15 minutes of fame :)
It was the most mental group stage I have ever witnessed.

I watched the live stream of Germany- netherlands and the live ticker of your game. As soon as you scored the 3-4, I said to myself: they are going to win it, scotland has nothing to play for any more...
 

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It was the most mental group stage I have ever witnessed.

I watched the live stream of Germany- netherlands and the live ticker of your game. As soon as you scored the 3-4, I said to myself: they are going to win it, scotland has nothing to play for any more...
Yeah, I thought the same - Scotland needed the Netherlands to get a result, and once it didn't happen, the sting went out of their game.

Looking at the finals, there are some massive nations absent: Germany, Spain, Russia, Poland, Sweden, Denmark, Belgium, Netherlands, Switzerland and the entire Balkans (Yugoslavia - in my mind - used to be the kings of youth football back in days gone by). Anyway, I hope you'll win the real thing in Russia, and then us Noggies will have a few good days once the U-19 champs kicks off in mid-July.
 

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So Molde to win it this year? They've invested heavily with the Solskjær money whilst Rosenborg have appointed a manager that is equivalent of Moyes to United.
 

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Nah, Tromsø are winning it easily. Now we have another one-club-league where we’ll see Tromsø winning it without any real challenge year in year out. HEIA TIL
 

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Nah, Tromsø are winning it easily. Now we have another one-club-league where we’ll see Tromsø winning it without any real challenge year in year out. HEIA TIL
You don't think Rosenborg will do it again this season? I thought SK Brann might put up a better challenge this season.
 

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Hard to tell.

Watching this round, Odd and Bodø Glimt seems to continue the winter form. Rosenborg plays Lagerback fotball without a plan, Molde disappoints in the first game, Sarpsborg propably still sharp, Viking might stay in the top division. Brann won't be better than last year at least. Vålerenga has a good chance at a medal this year though. Wilhjalmsson will make a big difference up front.

For sure as a Rosenborg supporter, I can not fathom what has happened the last year. We go from winning the double and knocking out Ajax etc. to this (WTF) in 1,5 seasons.
We need a new board, new coach and new players it seems. The latest is we are trying to buy an unknown middleaged dane forward. Someone needs to quit that smoking.

I do think the league this year will be very strange and open.
 

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Hard to tell.

Watching this round, Odd and Bodø Glimt seems to continue the winter form. Rosenborg plays Lagerback fotball without a plan, Molde disappoints in the first game, Sarpsborg propably still sharp, Viking might stay in the top division. Brann won't be better than last year at least. Vålerenga has a good chance at a medal this year though. Wilhjalmsson will make a big difference up front.

For sure as a Rosenborg supporter, I can not fathom what has happened the last year. We go from winning the double and knocking out Ajax etc. to this (WTF) in 1,5 seasons.
We need a new board, new coach and new players it seems. The latest is we are trying to buy an unknown middleaged dane forward. Someone needs to quit that smoking.

I do think the league this year will be very strange and open.
Should they have kept Ingebrigtsen?
 

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RBK will not win it. Søderlund needs approximately 7 100% chances to get the ball on goal. Bendter, while great understanding of the game compared to most other players in the league, does not work enough off the ball for them to play with wingers not working like horses. Mike Jensen is overrated and the same goes for Konradsen. Their fullbacks are not good on defense, with only 1 good cb in the aging Reginiussen. Will struggle until the summer break when they fire Horneland sitting in the middle of the table.
 

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I don't know really. Most hardcore fans wanted him gone due to a lax training regime, no playtime for our own talents and various stuff. I agree on some of it myself. But it was done in a shameful way and manner, and we should NEVER, EVER go away from the roots, 4-3-3 etc. The club is loosing itself again. And we should never have hired Horneland imo. Need to keep the identity of Rbk. Maybe Sollied, I don't know. Should have fired Stig Inge Bjørneby as sporting director and hired new scouts also.
Right now the only functional department seems to be the academy. At least the new coach might give talents more time. I have great hopes for Johnsen, the brother of Dennis Johnsen that went to Ajax.

Ashamed of my club and all the crap the last year right now. Not looking forward to this season. Still has the worst RB in history also.
 

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Atleast they try to play technical, possesionoriented football. If they had the same budget that Molde operates with and similar quality of players, they would walk the league.
Yeah perhaps :) I’m just hoping Tromsø won’t get relegated. I don’t care that much though, haven’t watched a TIL game in over a year.
 

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Season kicks off this evening as Molde start life without Solskjær, Eikrem and Dæhli at home to Vålerenga.

What are your expectations for the season? I think Rosenborg have a little edge with their new players, especially Morten Gamst Pedersen should give them a real boost.
Eikrem did play, though, he scored the late equaliser, and it was away to Sarpsborg. I do think Rosenborg still has the edge, even without Gamst’n. (Nothing ever changes in Norwegian football.)
 

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Eikrem did play, though, he scored the late equaliser, and it was away to Sarpsborg. I do think Rosenborg still has the edge, even without Gamst’n. (Nothing ever changes in Norwegian football.)
:lol: Did Gamst at Rosenborg really happen? In my head he went straight from Blackburn to Tromsø.
 

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Happy to see Tromsø doing well. On an unrelated note, how is the money in the Norwegian League, as compared to other European leagues? In terms of salaries, budgets, etc?
 

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@van der star Tromsø is not doing very well, and their goal for this season should be to steer clear of relegation. Beautiful offensive football, but total shambles defensively. They have also lost some important players since last season, and have a very thin squad. The money in the Norwegian league is at an all-time low compared to other leagues, and most half-decent European leagues pay more in terms of both transfer fees and salaries. The top teams in Norway rarely pay more than 1 mill pounds in transfer fee for a single player, even for the absolute top players. The maximum salary for the best players in the top teams typically lies around 300 000 pounds per year, before tax.
 

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Hard to tell.

Watching this round, Odd and Bodø Glimt seems to continue the winter form. Rosenborg plays Lagerback fotball without a plan, Molde disappoints in the first game, Sarpsborg propably still sharp, Viking might stay in the top division Vålerenga has a good chance at a medal this year though. Wilhjalmsson will make a big difference up front.

For sure as a Rosenborg supporter, I can not fathom what has happened the last year. We go from winning the double and knocking out Ajax etc. to this (WTF) in 1,5 seasons.
We need a new board, new coach and new players it seems. The latest is we are trying to buy an unknown middleaged dane forward. Someone needs to quit that smoking.

I do think the league this year will be very strange and open.
Why the hell did Rosenborg get rid of Mattías Villhjalmsson?

Sure Söderlund and Bentdner are both good but getting rid of a proven goal scorer that can play every position imaginable just doesn’t make sense to me.

I’ve seen him play every position in football in his carrier(including goalkeeper when the goal keeper in his Icelandic side got send of once) and his worst performance always seems to be a solid 7.

Already scoring for valerenga as well. Doesn’t make sense. What did Rosenborg fans make of the transfer?
 

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How have Bodo/Glimt become so good? 8 wins in 8 and some thrashings along the way.

One thing that bugs me about them, their goal nets. No club should have steel bars inside their goal nets. Their winner in the last game would have been a beautiful goal, but ruined by hitting the post inside the goal.

 

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They are so good because they do what Rosenborg did when they were good, they have a style of play that they practise on for decades, 4-3-3 with high press, and now also a good coach and many talentful players, some with speed. They also have this mental coach that have helped them. They play beautiful football at the moment. Even offloading their best players last season they are even better now. If we can not win the league, I hope they do. I think that last goal at 2:08 is a beautiful goal. what a hit that was. Absolute cannon.
 

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Love seeing underdogs doing well. Not really a fan of any of the top teams in Norway, more sympathy level with Brann, because i live in Bergen, but the trashing Brann got put a smile on my little face :)

BG play some nice football and score a ridicolous amount of goals, hope they continiue.
 

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How have Bodo/Glimt become so good? 8 wins in 8 and some thrashings along the way.

One thing that bugs me about them, their goal nets. No club should have steel bars inside their goal nets. Their winner in the last game would have been a beautiful goal, but ruined by hitting the post inside the goal.

Yeah I absolutely hate them, no idea why any modern football club would still cling to those nightmares. Guess it could be becuse of the snowy weather and the goals are easy to move inside for storage when it snows, which it does all the time.
 

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Bodo/Glimt and Molde are weekly God sends for my accumulators. Whoever they are. Well, I know Molde of course.
 

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Bodø/Glimt are fecking ridiculous. They're dishing out pastings every week.

Such a shame their potential EL qualifier against Milan is at San Siro. At home I think they would have caused an upset.
 

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6-1 vs the 3rd placed team.

Wonder if anyone, except maybe local newspapers, had BG even in top 5 before the season started.
 

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Wonder if anyone, except maybe local newspapers, had BG even in top 5 before the season started.
Everyone except Dagbladet did. Eurosport, NRK, VG and TV 2 had them at third. Maybe surprisingly so, seeing as they lost four key players and were a bit shite in the pre-season.
 

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Everyone except Dagbladet did. Eurosport, NRK, VG and TV 2 had them at third. Maybe surprisingly so, seeing as they lost four key players and were a bit shite in the pre-season.
Their most important asset is their manager, so as long as he is there they can handle shifting players. Did he not start as a coach in a Non-league equivalent division in Norway?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kjetil_Knutsen

And why did he get sacked from Åsane?
 

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Their most important asset is their manager, so as long as he is there they can handle shifting players. Did he not start as a coach in a Non-league equivalent division in Norway?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kjetil_Knutsen

And why did he get sacked from Åsane?
Good question, I'm not sure if the reasons behind that are well known.

But he was a highly regarded coach at Brann before Åsane, I think, and he was assistant "manager" at Glimt before he became head coach. He's certainly a key man up there, but can he be credited with Hauge, Evjen, Berg, Saltnes, Bjørkan, etc.? It seems to me that what's going on is a bit of a perfect storm with terrific coaching on youth and senior level, brilliant scouting, some great talents, and so on and so on.
 

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Good question, I'm not sure if the reasons behind that are well known.

But he was a highly regarded coach at Brann before Åsane, I think, and he was assistant "manager" at Glimt before he became head coach. He's certainly a key man up there, but can he be credited with Hauge, Evjen, Berg, Saltnes, Bjørkan, etc.? It seems to me that what's going on is a bit of a perfect storm with terrific coaching on youth and senior level, brilliant scouting, some great talents, and so on and so on.
This level of dominance is not just a "Leicester " fluke/perfect storm. The way they play and dominate must be coached/drilled.
 

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Their most important asset is their manager, so as long as he is there they can handle shifting players. Did he not start as a coach in a Non-league equivalent division in Norway?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kjetil_Knutsen

And why did he get sacked from Åsane?
He was there for 2 seasons. Might not even be a real sacking, but more moving on from club or manager and they reach a mutual agreement to move on.

Quoting an article:
He had just led Åsane to an 8th place in the Obosligaen. It was and is the club's best position in the league system ever.

Åsane still did not want to extend with the tactician from Arna, and employed Mons Ivar Mjelde.
 

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He was there for 2 seasons. Might not even be a real sacking, but more moving on from club or manager and they reach a mutual agreement to move on.
He also coached Fyllingsdalen (Transfermarkt) before that.

And this Local newspaper? seems to argue that he was sacked/not renewed because of someone named Roald Bruun-Hansen? had given his own son a professional contract without Knutsens involvement... And Knutsen would not have him in the Senior squad.
 

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He also coached Fyllingsdalen (Transfermarkt) before that.

And this Local newspaper? seems to argue that he was sacked/not renewed because of someone named Roald Bruun-Hansen? had given his own son a professional contract without Knutsens involvement... And Knutsen would not have him in the Senior squad.
And i thought those situations would only happen at Southern european countries :smirk:
 

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Maybe some of the norwegians one here could elaborate on Knutsen leaving Asane?
This article, or open letter if you like, is from the local newspaper in the area. It's written by the chairman of the board of Åsane Fotball.

The chairman is saying that Knutsens ambitions and demands were bigger than the economy of Åsane would allow, and that Knutsen was difficult to negotiate with. Knutsen apparently said different/more things to the media than he did to the board/decision makers, and were unavailable for discussion and negotiation on several accounts.
This lead to the board making a decision to head in a different direction.

Knutsen on the other hand says that the economy would've been different if he let the son of Roald Bruun Hansen play, as Bruun Hansen "has great power due to his relationship with Trond Mohn (one of the richest people in Norway)", despite Bruun Hansen not being a board member at that point in time.

So yeah, I guess it wasn't a sacking exactly, but he didn't get a new contract due to different opinion and ambition. And a tiny bit of unproven corruption/lobbyism.

Edit: I see the article is the same that you linked, @Fosu-Mens . It seems to be a bit of both Roald Bruun Hansen, a bit of the board, a bit of the economy, and a bit of Knutsen. They all seem "at fault" here.
 

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This article, or open letter if you like, is from the local newspaper in the area. It's written by the chairman of the board of Åsane Fotball.

The chairman is saying that Knutsens ambitions and demands were bigger than the economy of Åsane would allow, and that Knutsen was difficult to negotiate with. Knutsen apparently said different/more things to the media than he did to the board/decision makers, and were unavailable for discussion and negotiation on several accounts.
This lead to the board making a decision to head in a different direction.

Knutsen on the other hand says that the economy would've been different if he let the son of Roald Bruun Hansen play, as Bruun Hansen "has great power due to his relationship with Trond Mohn (one of the richest people in Norway)", despite Bruun Hansen not being a board member at that point in time.

So yeah, I guess it wasn't a sacking exactly, but he didn't get a new contract due to different opinion and ambition. And a tiny bit of unproven corruption/lobbyism.

Edit: I see the article is the same that you linked, @Fosu-Mens . It seems to be a bit of both Roald Bruun Hansen, a bit of the board, a bit of the economy, and a bit of Knutsen. They all seem "at fault" here.
Thanks. And how is Asane doing now? Did they get it right by not continuing on with Knutsen as their manager?