Just play Beckham at RWB
Nostalgia Draft - Winner - Isotope
- Thread starter Physiocrat
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Ouch!Can you link the game? I hope I wasn't doing that
Daaanngg.. You look so happy on the draw, man. At least it's only one green smiley.
EDIT: just saw what you have at 12. Still no biggie for you.
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Nah, I hear he needs at least two bodyguards, if not five.
Fecking unreal. No idea when that happened, but someone mentioned it in my game along the lines of "if Davids and Keane can't protect him then..." and I was like "then you have all lost your marbles"
I know nobody seems to rate him but from the moment it was a backup pick you probably should have got Puyol. More so when R12 is never going to hurt anyone else much at all.
Most of us have got blood on our hands regarding the Pirlo underrating in fairness. Imagine that you've drafted Maradona in some obscenely stacked all-time draft, you're facing a Davids/Pirlo/Keane midfield, and the opposition manager says something remotely critical about one of your players or their fit, and I defy you to say that you wouldn't mention the possibility of Maradona rinsing Pirlo in a 1v1. And as a great bard once said:
I vaguely remember facing Vidic when I sported a striker that could accelerate faster than a mobility scooter and feeling virtuous as feck that I didn't mention 'pace' once. And I might even have imagined this match.
Went back and read through that. No, it wasn't you, or even any one specific person. In fact a lot of people said it was the best setup for Pirlo they had seen. Just that there was always that perception throughout that he needed that sort of support and if he was up against someone like Maradona instead of Di Stefano, he'd be toast. Replaced him with Beckenbauer in the next round (no regrets there, Keane, Davids, and Beckenbauer was probably the best midfield I've ever built).
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/coronavirus-draft-r1-eap-vs-himannv.454004/
It seems like only your opponent tries to question him there slightly but even he backs off himself.
Yeah, it wasn't as bad as I imagined it. It was all just part of my victim complex.
The bigger discussion point seems to have been VVD.
Please put the date of your game below
Iso vs harms
Himman vs TheReligion
Iso vs harms
Himman vs TheReligion
no problem sir. If possible after Monday?
Yeah, whenever it's easier for you.
@TheReligion sometime next week on a weekday sound ok to you? Later the better as I've not got anything done yet.
Wednesday is Ok?
Sure
Nicely upgraded @TheReligion
I wasn’t a fan of how you used him in your game personally. I thought we had a better set up with Gattuso / Rijkaard on either side, but I know you had an issue with Rijkaard in that role.
He does seem to be a player who divides opinions but I agree that overall he seems to be a bit underrated in terms of draft influence. As Gio said part of this is the need to see everything as a 1 vs 1 individual battle, but I also think there’s a tendency for people to have a rigid view that there should only be one “designated playmaker” in each team, which causes issues when Pirlo is partnered with another technical ball-player.
Yeah, I think this tendency to think in 1:1 duels too much simply comes with the format. Collective processes are much harder to imagine, and are even more fantasy products than direct duels.
One major outcome is that the value of great buildup play has less importance than in real football. (Also true for the troubles a bumpy buildup brings with it.) The same goes for good collective defending, which is why it always seems better (against the ball) to have a collection of warriors in midfield.
So, buildup play underrated & hyperphysical defending overrated? Not hard to see why Pirlo loses out. But awareness of these issues has increased imo, and I have the feeling Pirlo is a bit more appreciated now than he used to be.
You did have a more agreeable setup indeed. I never saw an issue with him there, nor with him not being afforded "enough protection". My issue with Rijkaard had nothing to do with Pirlo.
Your approach was a lot more straightforward as well with your front three, but almost exclusively revolved around effective counters down the flanks, nothing much going on through the middle.
You were terribly unlucky you faced a team which looked made to deal with you, much like I was unlucky to get matched to Kaká of all people. There was no way I could say with a straight face I would be fine dealing with him without making those arrangements. But then, we know how things go when you break symmetry, one by one player matching and such shite. You wouldn't believe it's mostly United fans which saw us line up our midfield and attack differently regularly in the late 00s.
Agreed. I always try to assess the overall team's performance, and try not to go 1 vs 1. Although there should be an arrangement to negate the impact of opponent best player(s) also.
Iso vs harms Wednesday, 7/14/21
Himman vs TheReligion
And congratulation @harms for reaching the Final.
Himman vs TheReligion
And congratulation @harms for reaching the Final.
You seem to be more confident in my team than I am at the moment
You'll be fine mate. Same as your initial lineup last time but Vidic left and Rio right instead of Tassotti and Shevchenko on for Litmanen.You seem to be more confident in my team than I am at the moment
Clear as day improvement.
For all the yapping about Bosman...
Boss man
Boss man
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Iconic.
Not yet mate. Need to wear my makeup and pick up the lube first.
Beautiful. May his draft status reach bergomi.For all the yapping about Bosman...
Boss man
itching for another draft now if someone would be so kind to invite me when the next one starts
Just sent mine. Sorry for the delay.
Ok likely be Tuesday then if that's okay? I'm in work over weekend so will work out fine
Fine with me.
@TheReligion are we playing today?
I'm hoping to get something in today and then whenever @Physiocrat has time he can hopefully get us going (later on or tomorrow)