charlenefan
Far less insightful than the other Charley
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Love this thread, keep it up lads
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Nope. I don't buy that for a second. He's manage to make Tottenham a global brand that is likely to be involved in the sweeping changes involving the top tier of the sport. At this juncture, it is probably more important than a club like Spurs actually winning trophies.Levy is hands down the worst chairman in the league. By a long way.
This. I guess if he really wanted a challenge he could go there, but if he wants to win anything he would be foolish to take them on.If Conte goes to Spurs he must be desperate for work.
I really don't see how it goes well. He's an elite coach and Spurs have good players. However, Spurs don't have great players. Also Spurs don't have the money to sign great players either. If Spurs couldn't give Pochettino and Mourinho what they wanted in the transfer market, will they be able to deliver for Conte..?
How much do you think Spurs can get for him, playing quite poorly with his contract running down?
If we draw with City he’ll probably get another 5 years on his contract.You mean 3 years and 400m to spend
That’s a, let’s say interesting, take on it.Nope. I don't buy that for a second. He's manage to make Tottenham a global brand that is likely to be involved in the sweeping changes involving the top tier of the sport. At this juncture, it is probably more important than a club like Spurs actually winning trophies.
As a comparison point: Leicester, who have been more successful over the last 25 years but have not had a sniff of getting into any proposed Super League.
It's not about standards. Conte just isn't a good fit for us.
You know it's not as simple as that.You're right. A proven winner? no thanks, not at this top 4 club.
You know it's not as simple as that.Yeah who wants to win trophies anyway.
Conte already rejected them. He isn't joining Spurs but having Ole and Carrick and looking down on Conte is nuts. I wish he was our manager instead of this incompetent bunch.Great, even bigger financial problems for Spurs and less pressure for Ole. Both teams went into game knowing its make or break for managers. One team showed fight for the manager another looked like they arent giving flying fk, so the decision isnt unexpected. Hope they get Conte and finish out of 4, would be poetic.
I disagree. Saturday's result did not change my mind regarding the need to replace OGS, but that doesn't mean the answer has to be Conte. We need someone to build on what's there and develop this club into something that isn't a disjointed series of two-year projects, which is what Conte will be no matter how successful he is. Also, the squad we have doesn't suit him, or his preferred system.I would understand this argument if we where replacing Sir Alex in 2013. But now, it's really an obsolete argument.
At United the only good thing we have is the squad. The rest of it is dire. Rubbish coaching, Rubbish tactics, no promotion of youth, over £100m worth of new signings from summer 20 & 21 sitting on the bench not getting a chance. Ole and his standards DO NOT FIT UNITED
Your literally turning your nose up on a serial winner who's still in his prime (so not Jose, a very lazy comparison), with where we are and how low our standards have become, I think Conte is becoming a better fit as each day passes.
I've yet to see a reason why he wouldn't work here? what's not to like about a guy that's won the last 3 league titles at every club he's been at. Baffling.You know it's not as simple as that.
Hopefully!Hopefully that's the end of NES in English football. One less exponent of brutal football to watch twice a season.
It’s looking increasingly likely Conte will be at SpursConte already rejected them. He isn't joining Spurs but having Ole and Carrick and looking down at Conte is nuts
Pretty standard actually for any club with a hint of ambition.That was quick.
Does he though? His record in Europe is very poor. He flopped at Atalanta and his tenure with the Italian national team was unremarkable. He won Serie A with Inter after Juventus dropped off and the club was bankrolled by Chinese money.How he always overachieves.
That is how a club in the modern era act, you don't produce off you go no fecking about!That was quick.
I think people conflate Conte with Mourinho and assume that Conte would bring the same toxicity that Mourinho does.I've yet to see a reason why he wouldn't work here? what's not to like about a guy that's won the last 3 league titles at every club he's been at. Baffling.
Conte is a better manager than OGS? By a mile.If Conte goes to Spurs, doubt he can get them to top 4 any time soon. I don't think a big miss for United in the way Tuchel was.
That he invariably quickly falls out with the club and hence is a short-termer, that he demands a level of control I don't think the manager should have and which is basically incompatible with having a consistent, long-term recruitment strategy and that his preference is for a system/formation to which our present squad is badly suited? One could also have a thought or two about the disruptive ego explosions that might follow from combining him with Ronaldo and Pogba, neither of whom seem likely to thrive under him. As well as the obvious inadvisability of continuing the cycle of fundamental changes in direction every 2-3 years. In my view, he is self-evidently pretty much everything we should seek to avoid. I would be shocked and deeply dismayed if we sign him, and it would certainly make me lose a lot of confidence in how this club is run. And yeah, he's good at winning football games, but he's not the only one who is.I've yet to see a reason why he wouldn't work here? what's not to like about a guy that's won the last 3 league titles at every club he's been at. Baffling.
Just to be clear, I'm not looking to wum or get into any silly arguments, i'm just giving my point of view.I disagree. Saturday's result did not change my mind regarding the need to replace OGS, but that doesn't mean the answer has to be Conte. We need someone to build on what's there and develop this club into something that isn't a disjointed series of two-year projects, which is what Conte will be no matter how successful he is. Also, the squad we have doesn't suit him, or his preferred system.
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I 100% agree with this, intelligently put.That he invariably quickly falls out with the club and hence is a short-termer, that he demands a level of control I don't think the manager should have and which is basically incompatible with having a consistent, long-term recruitment strategy and that his preference is for a system/formation to which our present squad is badly suited? One could also have a thought or two about the disruptive ego explosions that might follow from combining him with Ronaldo and Pogba, neither of whom seem likely to thrive under him. As well as the obvious inadvisability of continuing the cycle of fundamental changes in direction every 2-3 years. In my view, he is self-evidently pretty much everything we should seek to avoid. I would be shocked and deeply dismayed if we sign him, and it would certainly make me lose a lot of confidence in how this club is run. And yeah, he's good at winning football games, but he's not the only one who is.
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Bet many thought the same about Tuchel. Anyway, we are just 2 points ahead of Spurs at this stage. If they get Conte, what makes you think they cannot finish ahead of us when Nuno, a far worse manager, still has then within touching distance. We will look like the absolute morons that we are if we let this happen and stick with Ole and his shite of on stick football and bs talks.If Conte goes to Spurs, doubt he can get them to top 4 any time soon. I don't think a big miss for United in the way Tuchel was.
Yeah, feck winning stupid trophies ….battling for top 4 is where it’s at.Yeah who wants to win trophies anyway.
I invariably agree with this, very well put. I think people are just more annoyed to see Spurs take action so swiftly, and not us, regardless on if it's rational and thought through or notThat he invariably quickly falls out with the club and hence is a short-termer, that he demands a level of control I don't think the manager should have and which is basically incompatible with having a consistent, long-term recruitment strategy and that his preference is for a system/formation to which our present squad is badly suited? One could also have a thought or two about the disruptive ego explosions that might follow from combining him with Ronaldo and Pogba, neither of whom seem likely to thrive under him. As well as the obvious inadvisability of continuing the cycle of fundamental changes in direction every 2-3 years. In my view, he is self-evidently pretty much everything we should seek to avoid. I would be shocked and deeply dismayed if we sign him, and it would certainly make me lose a lot of confidence in how this club is run. And yeah, he's good at winning football games, but he's not the only one who is.
Personal opinion of courseBet many thought the same about Tuchel. Anyway, we are just 2 points ahead of Spurs at this stage. If they get Conte, what makes you think they cannot finish ahead of us when Nuno, a far worse manager, still has then within touching distance. We will look like the absolute morons that we are if we let this happen and stick with Ole and his shite of on stick football and bs talks.