Sack him!
Lacks the ruthlessness to make it as a manager outside of Norway
Lacks the ruthlessness to make it as a manager outside of Norway
Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion
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I don't think there's any doubt that the club wanted poch but for whatever reason we couldn't get this summer - next summer might be different depending on what happens at spurs.
In the meantime we may as well give Ole a try, we've tried plenty of other things to no avail.
And its not really a question of back or sack because we need players no matter who the manager is. We'll be busy this summer I'm sure of it, hopefully we'll get some stronger characters than the last lot and identify some players prepared to give their all for the shirt regardless of who the manager is
In the meantime we may as well give Ole a try, we've tried plenty of other things to no avail.
And its not really a question of back or sack because we need players no matter who the manager is. We'll be busy this summer I'm sure of it, hopefully we'll get some stronger characters than the last lot and identify some players prepared to give their all for the shirt regardless of who the manager is
Back him
My only concern is he'll keep the likes of Young, Jones, Lingard around the squad next season and he'll end up sacked.
I'm pretty sure Lingard will be playing right back for us in 2 years time.
My only concern is he'll keep the likes of Young, Jones, Lingard around the squad next season and he'll end up sacked.
I'm pretty sure Lingard will be playing right back for us in 2 years time.
I don't know why nobody gets this.
Back him.
Sack the whole team. Anyone who gets paid that much to play or manage what really amounts to just a game and can’t win the title every year needs to lose their salary, their place on the team, and get a regular job. If they made normal salaries this would be tolerable, but they don’t. So anything less than a win and a title is simply unacceptable.
Sack him. Then sack his replacement before the end of the transfer window. If we keep sacking every manager, we get to absolve everyone else of blame for the awful nick we're in. Makes sense to me.
Back him. Let him clear out the lingards and pogbas. Let him get their fitness levels up. Let him make the team his own, and then talk about his future.
That's obvious. But wouldn't you want to have someone in charge who knows what he is doing? So far our "clearance" started with extending contracts with Jones, Smalling and Young, and losing Herrera. Not sure what are we clearing. We all know Ole won't be here in 20/21 season, I just don't see the point in wasting money and time having a manger who is clearly not good enough, surrounded by assistant managers who are not good enough either.
We cant just keep sacking managers.
Bring in a DoF.
Then we can sack them on a rotation basis with the managers.
Bring in a DoF.
Then we can sack them on a rotation basis with the managers.
Yes by asking valid questions...
You must be utterly deluded if you think we haven’t got a very difficult decision to make here.
Anyhow, back on topic. We can back him all we like but most of the same players will still be here next season and it’s clear he can’t motivate them or do anything with them really. So I think we should let him go, unfortunately.
Poch will face the same problem with these current bunch. You think they can play the way that Poch wants them to?
Give Ole another half a season, at the very least. Give him the transfer window to get some of the players who are stealing a living out of the club, and get in players who are willing to bleed for the shirt. As someone said, if the football is still dire and he still starts the likes of Young and Jones, then yes, sack him in December.
The night is darkest before the dawn.
Sack him.
Nice man but not a Manchester United manager. Go back to Norway and Molde Ole. Big fish in small pound and be happy do us all a favour. Thanks.
Nice man but not a Manchester United manager. Go back to Norway and Molde Ole. Big fish in small pound and be happy do us all a favour. Thanks.
He deserves a chance to rebuild the squad. Sell all toxic players and deadwood.
Sack of course. Giving him more time wont make us better than before. He is just as much the problem as Ed and the team. It will be a top 6 fight every year if at all. I can see us worse next season than Jose started this one. With this team being still so shit tells you everything you need to know, he is out of his depth. he is more deluded than Moyes.
I didn’t see your answer though.. so I can’t take that view on board.
He’s not THE problem but he’s not a solution. I’d say sack him now and cut our losses. It would be lunacy to give give him tons of money.
Sacking the manager doesn't equal keeping the players though? The new manager would still be tasked with a clear out
he should be nowhere near the squad, a coach should not be buddies with his current squad players. theres some obvious favoritism as his boys always get selected
Indeed. I had already complained of it in the matchday thread. everyone knows defensive teams is narrow but we kept playing through the middle. Terrible coaching.
Literally the only reason why he has the job. Because he's a club legend. If we had appointed Poch or Zidane and this was the level of football. OT would have wanted their head on a spike. Any other season I would have backed Ole but going through major overhaul with him at the helm? Dont trust him enough to buy the right players.
Many questions. What the hell do they have to do with Solskjaer's ability as a manager?
Back him. Get rid of toxic players who cant be arsed. We cant keep blaming the manager.
If Jose couldn’t motivate this bunch of wasters what chance anyone else. Its on the senior players not Ole.
If you want to get rid of someone vent on the CEO.
If Jose couldn’t motivate this bunch of wasters what chance anyone else. Its on the senior players not Ole.
If you want to get rid of someone vent on the CEO.
Has he spoken to the media yet? Or is he still making the end of season speech?
He's clearly not the only issue, players are average, and whoever is running things is well below average, but that only means Ole needed to be well above average, and he's not, so I'd get rid, but it's blind hope that it'll change anything much.
He will get the sack before the end of next season. His irrational loyalty to shit players like Jones, Young, Lingard and blowing into the bubble of Rashy will be the end of him. Shame.
I just hope we get lucky and bring in 2-3 solid players under him in the summer. That's as good as we can hope for.
I just hope we get lucky and bring in 2-3 solid players under him in the summer. That's as good as we can hope for.
Did you miss the reports this week regarding Lingard from a tier 2 source at the club?
So yeah, I think he is ruthless and he knows who needs to go and who should stay but why don't we just wait and give him a chance to prove that he can do it instead of shooting the guy down before he's even got close to a chance.
Genuinely if Poch is available and we can get some form of unofficial confirmation from him to take over, then can we really afford to risk not taking it like we have done in the past with someone like Klopp?
Poch is the only manager around I can see who could challenge City and now, Liverpool. He's worked wonders with Spurs despite them bottling things often. He would be the perfect United manager and if, and only of he says he would come to United, should Ole be asked to step down.
If not, then give Ole £200million and let him gut the side.
Sacking Ole with no actual plan would be stupid.
Poch is the only manager around I can see who could challenge City and now, Liverpool. He's worked wonders with Spurs despite them bottling things often. He would be the perfect United manager and if, and only of he says he would come to United, should Ole be asked to step down.
If not, then give Ole £200million and let him gut the side.
Sacking Ole with no actual plan would be stupid.
As I said in another thread, this is a tricky question.
There’s no doubt the team needs rebuilding, and whoever is the manager in the summer needs to be backed. That much goes without saying.
With that being said, at what point do we ask ourselves if Ole is the manager we want overseeing this transition? If/when he does get in his own players, have we seen enough of him to say that he’ll be able to get the best out of them? Is it worth the risk that this form could very easily continue into next season, and we find ourselves floating around in seventh place, scrambling around to figure out what to do?
I don’t envy the board in the discussions that they should be having about this, as it’s a hard decision to make, but then knowing our board and their complete lack of any proactive thinking, they’re all probably sat there thinking that it’s too early to be having discussions like this.
There’s no doubt the team needs rebuilding, and whoever is the manager in the summer needs to be backed. That much goes without saying.
With that being said, at what point do we ask ourselves if Ole is the manager we want overseeing this transition? If/when he does get in his own players, have we seen enough of him to say that he’ll be able to get the best out of them? Is it worth the risk that this form could very easily continue into next season, and we find ourselves floating around in seventh place, scrambling around to figure out what to do?
I don’t envy the board in the discussions that they should be having about this, as it’s a hard decision to make, but then knowing our board and their complete lack of any proactive thinking, they’re all probably sat there thinking that it’s too early to be having discussions like this.
If we on a beach chasing top four, what were a team who had been relegated for months doing last week? So you right he can’t motivate these players and we not going to sign a new squad of 16 players. So if he can’t motivate the group, what do you suggest?
Back him, but I'm aware it could be scary ride ending in a crash.
Strikers can go wide one and then but their natural instinct is to go down the middle. We need good FB's and Wingers to keep maintaining the width throughout the match.
You make it sound like Solskjear is a decent manager, he's not, Mark Hughes is better than him, David Moyes is better than him, Sam Allardyce is better than him.Sack him and what? Appoint Carrick? Gary Neville?
There is not a single manager that can be a better option for us at the moment. All we can hope for is that the board supports him 100% in the transfer market.
Also, anyone who thinks we can get Poch
Conte is still out there available.
In a few years time, our trophy cabinet will have the "6 games under van Gaal" and "3 games where we scored 12 under Ole" trophies in it.
Replace him with a proven decent coach ffs.
Wake up.
Wake up.
Ole has done a hell of a lot more for the club than any of you calling for his head. Back the manager.
Have to back him. I think if we start next season with young Jones and smalling hes done by October though.
Desperately want ole to do well and be a success but it has to start with those 3. I'd get rid of pogba and lukaku as well. I'm not doubting pogba and his ability I just think hes got an appalling attitude.
Maybe we will struggle to get rid of and replace all of those but its where I would start. Ole has to be brave or his dream job will be done.
Desperately want ole to do well and be a success but it has to start with those 3. I'd get rid of pogba and lukaku as well. I'm not doubting pogba and his ability I just think hes got an appalling attitude.
Maybe we will struggle to get rid of and replace all of those but its where I would start. Ole has to be brave or his dream job will be done.
He is going to stay so we have no choice but to hope we get some decent results under him next season. Woodward won't admit he was wrong in appointing him as usual, expect more useless briefings about marquee transfer targets we won't be signing.
We’ve gone and given him the job now haven’t we? To be fair from what he’s said he seems well aware we’re shite so will hopefully be ruthless. Doubt it though.
It'd be nice to think that the rival clubs were sufficiently worried about us to conspire in this way.
Sadly, we're now a complete irrelevance on the football landscape. Just some 'also rans', there to make up the numbers.
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