Ole Gunnar Solskjær | Permanent manager

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  1. Jul 14, 2019

    Frank Grimes Full Member

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    Got the impression from his post match presser that he is not happy with our transfer business. Basically taken the same form as this time last season with Mourinho, 2 signings and hopeful for more but ask Woodward.
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    DoomSlayer Full Member

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    It did sound like that, Ole is probably getting fed up of being asked questions that are not up to him and knowing that a lot of fans are actually blaming him for the lack of transfers.
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    Foxbatt Full Member

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    Pep plays to the theory of Johan with certain tweaks. But it is still the same and it is a very successful formula. Pep knows it well as he was the fulcrum in the team. I think he still has not found someone to play in his position.
    I do not think Ole is even close enough to Pep to try and beat the way they play.
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    Patrick08 New Member

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    We now know Why Jose Mourinho was a Whiny little Cnut on Tour last season.
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    roonster09 Correctly predicted France to win World Cup 2018 Scout

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    Without watching the video, it's hard to come to any conclusion.
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    Awwal Lawal New Member

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    You should watch the Post-Match press conference where he responded to the question of incoming transfers by answering that the reporter should ask Ed.

    That answer is open to a lot of interpretations and misinterpretations. However, the most obvious is that Ole is not in the loop about what is happening on the transfer front. Ole is trying to remain positive and show a united front for the club compared to similar situation last year that got Mourinho throwing his toys out of the pram.

    Also, one point that has been touched extensively when talking about transfers is the fact that irrespective of incomings/outgoings there should be an identity to the footballing style on display. Yesterday, looking beyond the scoreline it can be argued that the first strands of visible coaching and shift in style is appearing. Will this change be fruitful? Does Ole have the nous to fully implement these changes? Does Ole have the backroom staffs to oversee its implementation? Positively achieving a coherent footballing unit will go a long way in the rebuilding process.

    I wish Ole success but will Ed help him to achieve this success in the shortest possible time?
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    lysglimt Full Member

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    Yes we have because our policy have been completely wrong.

    Moyes took over an ageing side and LVG signed all the wrong players. Mourinho signed a few wrong players, and alienated the right players he signed.

    Signing young hungry players is what we should have done in the first place
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    Beaucoup Full Member

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    We’re going to struggle like feck to score goals this season.
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    Kush Full Member

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    Unless we have something big lined up before the window closes I agree with you.
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    hocane New Member

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    The first 5 games will define the season for OGS.

    Lose the 3 out of the first 5 games and i think there is a good chance he'll lose the dressing room.
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    Frank Grimes Full Member

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    I have watched it, just to be clear.
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    JK-27 Full Member

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    Jose was moaning last pre-season about not having the players he wanted at the start of pre-season. We're in the same position this pre-season, it's like the club never learns!
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    roonster09 Correctly predicted France to win World Cup 2018 Scout

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    Yeah I watched it few mins back and looks like he wasn't pleased with how the things are going on.
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    Shamana Full Member

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    The owners just aren't filling the splash the cash it takes to get back to the top in this over-inflated market. It's kind of comical we missed out on Eden Hazard because we didn't want to pay a few million extra to his agent. Now every quality player out there cost like 100 mil.
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    SER19 Full Member

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    Fans who want to criticise ole will no matter what.

    He gets accused of being all talk about being ruthless, then he clearly tells a 75m pound striker he’s not a first teamer and he looks set to put his trust in a local 21 year old he seems to be confident he can develop, and he gets accused of being a yes man.

    United need to offload players, solskjaers job is to tell Woodward who’s not in his plans. If we can’t shift the likes of Sanchez or dalot, that’s not on the manager.

    He’s also clearly said he wants more signings.
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    Jeffthered Full Member

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    Not being disrespectful, but having read your post, I'm struggling to understand the point you're making.
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    Jeffthered Full Member

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    Yep. So we give 'Rashers' and Martial new contracts.
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    Tom Van Persie No relation

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    It was that or let two talented young players leave for potentially nothing.
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    Ban Full Member

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    Yeah I guess selling 3, 4 strikers and trying to buy replacements would really go well.
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    Tbh, if we get someone like Ben Yedder, I think we’ll have much more chances in the 6 yard box. If you’d saw the Perth game, we’re devoid of a Striker making a darting run to the near post or into the 6 yard box. There were quite a few times we put the ball into a dangerous area and there was just no one there.
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    Stacks Full Member

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    Fair enough
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    el3mel Full Member

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    I said that last season and people didn't like it. Ed didn't veto Jose signings because he didn't like them or has a point nonsense as his supporters claimed, because here we are chasing Maguire again after people told us last season "oh thank feck Ed didn't get Mourinho his wanted Maguire" .

    We are just struggling in the current market because we can't adapt to the current over inflation and want to pay with the prices we were paying few years ago. The Glazers don't seem interested in adapting to the current market while most other clubs like Liverpool just accepted it.

    This market is more of the same as last summer and the next will probably be the same. Glazers reached the end point of spending on the team I believe. They aren't willing to go over the top like the rest of the clubs challenging for the top which means we are going to stay where we are now for the next few years most probably, 5th or 6th team challenging to get 4th till Glazers finally decide to sell the club for the biggest profit.
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    Moriarty Full Member

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    This has been a problem at United for a while now. I've lost count of the number of times I've seen balls go begging in the six-yard box because there was nobody in there attacking that space. Lukaku doesn't do it, Rashford doesn't, and I don't know if young Greenwood is that type of player. It's maddening.
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    Lash Full Member

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    Yeah, Lukaku weirdly hangs round the edge of the box, the lazy bastard. The only time I remember Rashford doing it was that winner against Hull. I think Greenwood will be deployed wide at first, but as the forwards interchange he may get some chances there. Issue with him is that he needs to work on his composure. It's bloody infuriating when you see the pass Dan James put in that area and there was absolutely no one there.
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    Rhyme Animal Modmins said "freeze" and I got numb

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    Nonchalantly scoring the winner...
    Yeah - and imagine winning trophies, guiding us to 2nd and THEN being mugged off by Woodward / Glazers like that.

    One of the big shames regarding Mourinho is how so many members of the fanbase let their dislike of him control them emotionally - like soap opera fans.

    They end up squabbling about him rather than simply speaking about what he won and how he was treated as a manager when it came time for the Glazers to make the push for a challenge.

    What the Glazers did last Summer should've been the last straw - and I really mean that - even if Mourinho went as well, what they did as owners last Summer should've been their final piss-take.

    Don't be surprised that they're now not backing Ole - they didn't back the guy who won them trophies and got them a 2nd place finish...

    So the notion of them heavily backing a manager who's simply lucky to have the job, is, with all due respect, naive bordering on the delusional.

    Hopefully this whole thing opens fans' eyes to the owners and leads to them finally being driven out of the club.
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    Shamana Full Member

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    Mourinho acted like a 1st class prick in his time here and he was self-sabotaging his 3rd season. Would never have him back.
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    Rhyme Animal Modmins said "freeze" and I got numb

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    Nonchalantly scoring the winner...
    Right, yeah.

    Read again...
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    Shamana Full Member

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    Mourinho was right to want be backed to go top, but he was also failing in getting most out of his signings and his playing style was shit. I dont consider winning the el while finishing 6th a great achievement.
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    wolvored Full Member

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    Mourinho this vg that... They are gone so let's stop saying if this had have happened if that hadn't... We have to concentrate and support who is in charge now. So many people moaning yet we have the best part of a month still to get transfers in, get the training and tactics right. Let's wait till this time next season before you see whether to throw ole under the bus
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    Foxbatt Full Member

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    The problem is that the bar has been set high by Pep and now Klopp. Poch is up there too in England. Ole is a novice among them and from what I have seen at United and the when he was at Cardiff, he is still trying to fight the last world war. Football has moved on a lot since Ole was at OT and coached by SAF. Now it is a different game. The tactics used by SAF is not going to work now and to be honest at the later stage of his career it did not work against foreign top opposition either.
    Especially the competition having better players and with better managers and so better tactics Ole has not got much hope to win things. It is very well saying the United way and we will fight them on the beaches and that sort of thing but it does not win trophies.
    There is a theory behind the way Pep and Klopp work. Ole at this moment in time does not seem to have any theory behind his tactics in either attacking or defending.
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    luke511 Full Member

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    Is it fair to say this has a good chance of being our strongest XI next season?
    Martial Rashford James
    Pogba Fernandes
    McTominay/Longstaff
    Shaw Lindelof Maguire AWB
    De Gea

    I'd like to believe that has a good chance of doing well in the league, Solskjaer's not doing too bad so far building a more balanced structure. Also big season for Rashford, Ole wants him as our first choice so there's a lot of expectation on him, make it or break it time.
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    edgar allan Full Member

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    That team is not going to score enough goals to do well.
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    luke511 Full Member

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    Getting another striker relies on us selling Lukaku I suppose, no idea who we'd get in.
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    Foxbatt Full Member

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    I do not know about not scoring goals but Ole needs to switch his players around if Rashford and Lukaku are not scoring goals. He needs to let Martial play CF or bring in Greenwood for some games. I have a bad feeling about this now. The same feeling when Moyes was appointed manager. I think this is way above Ole's head.
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    edgar allan Full Member

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    Well he has adressed some of our defensive problems so that is a good start.
    Alot will depend on whether Pogba is going to step up next year.
    Our attacking options are limited and need improved.
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    edgar allan Full Member

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    Well we certainly wont score too many if he stays. A top forward would be a huge lift if it happens
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    Foxbatt Full Member

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    We need a forward who can create his own goals.
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    I am optimistic. I saw a semblance of a system being put in place. He does seem to have plan. I am actually excited to watch the leeds game and see if it's a false dawn of a system being implemented. If it's a system then we in for a good season regardless of who else we buy.
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    Gasolin Full Member

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    Please... google it up, his tactics are there. It’s not a secret or anything.
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    OleGunnar20 Full Member

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    Agreed, I'm hopeful.

    Personally, I'm firmly in the Ole fanclub after the heartbreak of seeing that narcissist insult our club from the managers seat. Just having someone who loves the club, who sees us as the pinnacle of his career and no doubt (in my mind) will work harder than anybody to make this work, means the world to me.

    Despite this, I think whether we agree with his appointment or not, it's important that Ole is properly backed for an extended period of time by both the board and the fans, even if he does have a bad run and 'loses the dressing room'. I know it seems daft but I think we need to show that we won't become another Chelsea, that we won't let the players decide when their boss is no longer up to the task. It's all gone topsy-turvy.

    I see that logically that's not how things generally go these days, maybe it's a bit of a romantic notion, but bugger it surely football has to have a bit of romanticism.
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