Well don’t priorities a RW to use on the left then.
Ole is unhappy that we haven't bought a CM
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Ole isn't in charge of the transfers. Neither was Jose.
Pretty sure I've seen him playing in cental midfield a few times this year.My lord Van De Beek is not a Centre Midfielder
Is Rice a centre back?
Just silly excuses to buy more time. He doesnt know how to improve anyway, except for buying buying and buying. Improvement comes only with transfers.
Guy is an idiot and imposter.
Guy is an idiot and imposter.
Most managers can only dream of getting Varane, Sancho and Ronaldo in one transfer window. And that ex academy Goal Keeper whatshisname.
Odd that he would spend his entire career to date playing in the centre of midfield then.My lord Van De Beek is not a Centre Midfielder
We should've got one but it isn't an excuse for the disjointed displays we're seeing this season. There's no semblance of balance whatsoever.
It probably doesn't help how top heavy the squad is, but that was part of the parcel with signing Ronaldo.
It probably doesn't help how top heavy the squad is, but that was part of the parcel with signing Ronaldo.
So? Bruno can play in midfield and started there. Do you want him playing their rather than up the pitch where he is best at?
Our scouts identified him as a Pogba replacement, Real Madrid went in for him so we moved on him. Hindsight, we probably shouldn't have got him, but lets see what he can do when Pogba leaves in the Summer (let's be honest, no chance he's staying, right?). That opens the door up for DvB in the squad and means we can focus our attention elswhere, i.e. buying a fecking midfield.
If we look at that whole window it was a bit shite. It was a medium/long term investments all because we didnt land Sancho when we wanted too. If we had signed Sancho that Summer then the money we paid for Sancho this Summer would have gone into a midfielder. Still, Diallo, DvB and Pellestri all might end up being decent purchases in another year or so.
This is load of bullshit. He should have prioritized DMF over Sancho in this window. Plus why did he buy DvB in last window if DvB wasn't the midfielder he needed?
And most importantly, if he cannot buy, you try to promote somebody from academy. That is what Liverpool did number of times when they couldn't buy who they needed.
How come we don't have at least couple of DMFs in the academy that can be better than Fred and McT who are clearly pathetic at it?
Besides, our only problem is not a lack of DMF. Even world class DMF won't fix our defense. We need one but our problems are much deeper. We are horribly coached team that doesn't know how to defend as a team and how to behave out of posession. We are not compact in defense, our positional awareness sucks
Starting to make excuses. He had a lot of time to buy a midfielder.
Instead he keeps playing players out of position: Fred, Sancho, Pogba
I dont think that we start playing much better even with a good DM. Solskjaer is just tactically very poor.
I wish he finds his balls soon and at least plays like when he started coaching Manchester United. Or resigns. I don’t want to see that shit anymore.
Instead he keeps playing players out of position: Fred, Sancho, Pogba
I dont think that we start playing much better even with a good DM. Solskjaer is just tactically very poor.
I wish he finds his balls soon and at least plays like when he started coaching Manchester United. Or resigns. I don’t want to see that shit anymore.
Ole has never played Fred or Sancho out of position.
Seems like an intentional leak from his camp, I guess he knows he's under the cosh and his is his potential way out. It's a glaring hole in our squad so a good scapegoat to use. Problem is he's spent over £300m including on a central midfielder so it's hard to sympathise.
He’s thrown money at all areas of this squad, over numerous windows, and he’s still dripping about not having the right players!
Imagine if he had to operate on a budget and utilise the squad he has….like a decent manager does.
woefully inadequate management from a poor, poor manager
Imagine if he had to operate on a budget and utilise the squad he has….like a decent manager does.
woefully inadequate management from a poor, poor manager
Wherever he is most effective. Bruno is more of a playmaker so sometimes depending on the opposition having him a little deeper would be beneficial.
We can't really put this down to one position. Teams are easily playing through us because there is no pressure on the ball. No closing down or forcing mistakes. 3 passes and they are clean through on our goal. It is too easy.
Bruno is playing as a second striker, this is leaving huge gaps in midfield, and even with the best CDM in the world, he isn't going to mark 3 players at the same time. Pogba isn't disciplined enough to play in a holding role, he always want to go forward, like Bruno. Their is no discipline in the front five at all. Greenwood only wants to shot and not create opportunities for Ronaldo. Ronaldo will not track back or close down. Sancho is in the wrong position, but isn't supporting Shaw, so Shaw isn't driving forward because he is feeling exposed in defence.
Every single one of our attacking and midfielder players needs to be sat down and explained what their roles are, what the expectations are, what passages of play that they need to work on, what they are currently doing wrong. This clearly isn't happening because they are still making the same mistakes every week.
Yes, our defence has also been off it this season, but they are being asked to do so much more than they should, due to many of our forward players being selfish and not doing the basics.
Bruno is playing as a second striker, this is leaving huge gaps in midfield, and even with the best CDM in the world, he isn't going to mark 3 players at the same time. Pogba isn't disciplined enough to play in a holding role, he always want to go forward, like Bruno. Their is no discipline in the front five at all. Greenwood only wants to shot and not create opportunities for Ronaldo. Ronaldo will not track back or close down. Sancho is in the wrong position, but isn't supporting Shaw, so Shaw isn't driving forward because he is feeling exposed in defence.
Every single one of our attacking and midfielder players needs to be sat down and explained what their roles are, what the expectations are, what passages of play that they need to work on, what they are currently doing wrong. This clearly isn't happening because they are still making the same mistakes every week.
Yes, our defence has also been off it this season, but they are being asked to do so much more than they should, due to many of our forward players being selfish and not doing the basics.
We have midfielders, fecking coach them!
Sancho is better on right wing. Fred is not a defensive midfielder.
I would play Rasford on the left and Sancho on the right. I think Sancho is much more natural wide player than Greenwood is. We havent had RW for a long time, lets use it. He dribbles, he gets past players and hopefully is a service for Ronaldo.
I would rotate Greenwood up top with Ronaldo or with Sancho.
When we play with two forwards I would use Greenwood with either Ronaldo or Cavani.
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I think it was satire.
yeah
that happens when you are solely reliant on the individual talents of your players to play a game of football.Its more that he has had multiple windows and lots of money to address this including signing a 40mill midfielder who he doesn't play, spending 30m on Amad + Pellestri who aren't even training with us and signed Sancho for 70+ mill, in an area where we are stacked, when he doesn't even know how to use him. I don't ACTUALLY believe Ole even said this.
Good post. Having a "front five" mentality is killing us.
That's only since Ronaldo came. We were relying heavily on his goals to the point he was our main goal scorer last year.
Do you remember that?
This is actually why I think Ole bought Donny, as a Cover for Bruno because both Lingard and Pogba were going/gone.
This is the issue with FM becoming mainstream, VdB is nothing like Mueller. Someone just sees a player who can exploit space, understands how to sit between lines, isn't fast and wants to label them. No doubt someone will be claiming he's a Segundo Volante or an Engache next.This is not an excuse for Ole because I cba with that anymore but VDB is not a bloody midfielder
He is an attacking midfielder who is a goalscorer like Thomas Muller. Just because he can play as a CM doesn't mean he is good at it or it is his best position. Muller has also played in midfield but he plays better further up the pitch.
Ole has bought two attacking midfielders. All the deeper midfielders are Mourinho players.
Get some of the resident Ajax guys to pipe in here but my understanding was he's played CM in a pivot, usually, with a more defensively minded player (Martinez, De Jong or even Blind sometimes) so he's a 6, 8 or a 10 where he also spent time and was excellent. He literally plays the role United want a CM in.
Different players
The guy who sanctioned and signed a winger we seemingly don't need and a CM we don't play cant complain about this.
Given that rebuilding the squad was his biggest success, I'm not sure your claim really does him any favours.
Is this the excuse now? Leicester were missing 3 notably key players in that match and smashed us 4-2.
Always an excuse.needs another billion or 2 maybe to continue being top 4.
Always an excuse.needs another billion or 2 maybe to continue being top 4.
Ofcourse but he does go for different players. Sancho vs Greenwood. Wan Bissaka vs Trippier. Telles vs Shaw to help Shaw improve. De Gea vs Henderson.
Both play the same position. Bruno has played as a support striker CAM for us. VDB can play that role for us as a raumdeuter.
Because he didn't feel it needed to be strengthened enough to actually do it. He's grasping at fecking straws leaking this sort of tripe, it's pathetic.
Keeping VdB and Martial and Lingard and Mata around to prop up the subs bench was more important to Ole than scouring Europe for a good midfielder to sign. And there's no shortage of promising midfielders out there.
He's 100% correct in identifying the need for a midfielder, but he's years too late and he's had opportunities over 5 transfer windows to address it. He's gone on record to say we're a fantastically well run club and that he's been backed. Now this is filtering through when he's lost most of the support and the board won't like it one bit.
Either he's not spotted this years ago or he's been toeing the line. The next manager needs to be his own man.
Either he's not spotted this years ago or he's been toeing the line. The next manager needs to be his own man.
Bruno is more of a playmaker though like I said. You talk about his goalscoring but probably half of them have been penalties/freekinck or from long range?
Yep. A CM should have been ahead of Sancho and a CB. Someone dropped the ball and thought if we just get big names like Sancho, Varane and later Ronaldo all will be good. Ole should have been screaming all summer so he needs to take some blame.
Neither of those statements are true. Sancho can play on the right but you can't say he's better there. He was arguably better on the left for Dortmund and Fred can't play the 8 position as his passing isn't good enough. We see how poor he is there when partnered with Matic.
I think we're all in agreement that a new manager will be required to take the club forward but four pages and counting on a nothing story...
It's more about money wasted £35/40m as it relates to having no funds. Ole convinced Donny to come here.My lord Van De Beek is not a Centre Midfielder
Right. You do know the hyped up version of VDB was once he started moving up the pitch? He wasn't that good when he was playing that deep for ajax. Literally his goals in the CL shows what a raumdeuter is and your sitting their talking about football manager.
We clearly needed better CB's and quality CB's are not cheap. Maguire was over priced, everyone knew that but he was an upgrade on what we had and has done well with the exception of a few small dodgy spells. How much would you want to spend on two CB's? 40m? 60m? 80m? 100m? Who would they be? Our defensive recruitment has been brilliant, the lack of clean sheets is due to the midfield protection and coaching. Personally we struggle with the very basics at times, so to me the issue is clearly coaching and bringing in new coaches will make our defense much better.
We didn't have enough players on the flank at all. You literally named 3 kids an 1 player the entire forum complained about for years. Our wide senior options are: Rashford, Martial, Greenwood, Pogba, Lingard
Martials been shite for almost 14months now, Lingard was deemed shit and struggled here, the other three are decent options but you can't have three for the entire season. Sancho is a great option to bring in. Why are we even debating this? It's clear we needed more goals/creativity from wide and we've sorted that with Sancho.
Recruitment under Ole has been excellent, James who was deemed a bad signing was even sold for a profit. DvB is the only other signing I would question right now. I will say that we should have brought in a proper DM last Summer and if that meant missing out on Pellestri/DvB/Diallo then we really should have just done that. It's not an excuse for Ole though, we have the players in the squad to be doing much better and our defensive organisation in particular this season has been abysmal.
They haven't been that stingy. The club prioritized very poorly and Ole should take some of the blame.
I mean obviously we are weak in midfield. But he's obviously deflecting blame as well. Nobody has a perfect squad and a perfect transfer window every summer. We signed multiple world class players in positions of need, yet we have gone backwards as Ole can't adjust to heightened expectations.
I don't know about that but what VDB is does that he finds free space and scores.
We saw this vs Crystal Palace on his debut when he played exactly like that. Ever since that he has playing deeper and deeper and not scoring a single goal.