I mean how do we gauge this?
Some on here may do that. But if roles were reversed non of 'em scousers would be asking for our manager.At this rate, Rafa might get axed from Everton
Who's going to be the first to suggest Benitez replace Ole?
Strange one? Voicing opinions to get people out of their slumber is unheard of to you? No need to take shit lying down. Social media is a powerful tool. And everyone at the club including the club itself can be made to heard the truth on various platforms.
Hey by then United will be top and Ole will be firmly back at the wheel.
This is a "mates" club. Our "legends" just protect their mate with their brainless words in any condition, they consider our club is their bigger version of Salford. Instead of helping our club improve or fix the issues, they scare to say something that may hurt their mate. We're gradually becoming North Korea of football world by using the word DNA, they meant it "Reign".
If it was just a matter of passing on Conte but the noises that came out suggested that we were actively looking for a replacement, I would still be ok. But my impression is that the club actually genuinely believe Ole has done a close to ideal (save for actually winning anything) job bar a couple of results this season, are just hoping to ride out the current storm and keep him on at the helm, and if all really goes to hell, try to convince Rodgers (or some other British coach) to take over. There’s absolutely no cause for optimism in this scenario. And I don’t think they regarded Conte as an easy out, as Conte would have rocked the boat too much in terms of his demands and his readiness to call them out publicly.
I'm fine if Conte goes to Spurs, but that's also means that we're more likely to ride this season with Ole.
There is no divide, at least 80% want Ole gone, rest can't bring themselves to say it but also know they won't win anything with him.
Because Spurs are hiring a manager we weren't ever going to hire?
Or…. We stuck with Ole for the time being because there was nobody better available? I don’t think Conte fits United, in the same way Jose didn’t. I still believe Ole is on borrowed time but the notion by a load on here that we’ve missed a chance by not getting Conte in is baffling to me. Sure, he was the best available, but he’s certainly not the best fit.
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Which is based on the tweet, which is a lie. Go look at the guys twitter.
Pretty much. This place bang on about how badly run we are, but are furious we aren't jumping at the chance to hire a manager who goes against a lot of the groundwork that has been laid over the last couple of seasons. It's hilariously daft, but to be expected on SadCafe.
It should never have gotten as far as needing Conte though. There have been loads of decent managers available while Ole has been at the wheel. Its been obvious for ages that he isnt good enough.
Yes, but that's a different conversation and not really my point. The same people who didn't want Conte when Spurs were hiring him in the summer are now crying. They don't want Conte, they just don't want Ole, fair enough, but own it. It's desperation. It's still time to go for Ole, but we need a logical choice to replace him, Conte ain't it.
Conte would have done better until the end of the season than Ole will. This is based on past successes as evidence. Anyway, I think this conversation is a bit pointless now. Conte ain't coming and we are stuck with Ole. Desperation indeed.
Well yeah probably? But isn't this the sort of short term planning and no foresight the board get stick for? Or are people bored of wanting to lay foundations and just want any trophy at any cost now? Fair enough, but just admit it.
We have 7 months of the season left and none of the longer term options are available. So of course we have to look at things differently than if this were summer with a CL place safely in the bag.
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It’s basically all about ego and not about what’s best for the club.
'Just admit it', 'own it'. Man, it sounds like you are the hysterical one here. Just chill. The fans are rightly frustrated. Hasn't it been 3 years now?
I think this is part of it, for sure.
The good work done means 2 clean sheets in 22 games, a failed formation attempt leaving us with an unbalanced squad, and about 5-6 players on the verge of leaving.
What is that groundwork laid by Ole which would be undone? Are you talking about the inability to play coherent, good football? Or the inability to get the best out of your players? Or is it to alienate all players who aren't your favourite?
The squad is of much better quality, obviously, still has issues though. Plenty of them. I suppose me actually liking this group after being quite indifferent to our side for the past few years is a big thing.
textbook this place. I'm not defending Ole, I've wanted him gone for ages, he's totally out of his depth.Either Whitwell is making it up or there's a deep malaise at this club.Tweet
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Most jurno's are making shit up anyways. Unless Conte comes out and says something similar(like Klopp did) I'm calling B.S. on that.
Whitwell is about as reliable as it gets to be honest.
No that's not a lie. It's an opinion. It's takes way less wins to earn back trust than it does losses to be sacked.
The podcast isn't behind a paywall just so you know, anyone can listen to it.
Spot on. I get that people are desperate for success and/or Ole to be sacked, but if we did go ahead and bring abord Conte, would that mean we would win the league? Hes a good manager no doubt, but hes also up against two(or three) of the best managers on the planet, who all had a lot more time to refine their teams
Yeah, he wanted this job so much that he couldn’t wait 5 days until City game... another humiliation by City and there was a big chance for us to approach him. Could easily extend contract negotiations with Spurs for a week to see what happens after the weekend and he still decided to join Spurs within 48 hour after they sacked Nuno.
There's no guarantees either way, but I think short term Conte is more likely to win than the alternatives on offer. This isn't like Mourinho, who looked like damaged goods when he left Chelsea. Conte won the league just last season, making it 5 league titles in his last 7 seasons as a club manager.
I don't believe this is true but if it is then the win against Spurs might have done more damage to our future than a loss against Liverpool. I can't believe that all it takes to impress senior figures at OT is just a single win against a side as poor as Spurs were under Nuno.
