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If we lose to Villarreal I think its out of our hands and Ole will be fecked. Not qualifying from the group and Ronaldo playing in the Europa League and he'd be gone immediately.
By all accounts they’re not even trying to find someone, so it’s really just the hope that we limp to 4th with him. Solskjaer won’t be sacked while he retains the backing of SAF and Woodward remains too cowardly to make the decision.Tweet
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Cute PR spins but if they actually had a plan he would've been let go after Liverpool drummed us at home without breaking a sweat
Their reported ‘patience’ nonsense is transparently because they hope that it either gives them time to find someone while Ole most of the blame/public beating or that we limp to 4th with him
I think he can be convinced, If he knows Ole is leaving can see him staying, same with Martial tbh, providing Cavani and Ronaldo leave.Really, would have thought he will be first out the door in Jan if Ole is still here
Or maybe the club knows that the fan backlash would be intense if they briefed that they still back Solskjaer, so they’re just playing a PR game till this whole thing blows over.The lack of briefings in support of Ole show you the club aren’t convinced and are just keeping him on until they find someone else or it gets worse. It’s quite likely we’ll get turned over by Watford but who knows whether that will be enough.
It makes the club look even more ridiculous if they put the decision off, waste an international break and then sack him if we lose to Watford.
Eh, it's just rotation fodder apart from Ronaldo / Cavani who were explicitly brought in as a short term fix to the striker problem. You can barely even count people like Matic / Mata / Lingard / VdB / Bailly in there given the amount of football they play. It's also strange to blame the club / Ole for these since everyone apart from VdB have been signed by other managers a long time ago now.Realistically, Cavani, Matic, Mata and Ronaldo won't be with us long anyway. Pogba and Lingard are leaving, question marks over DVB, Bailly and Martial having not played much. We're going to need replacements, top 4 or no top 4.
Shows you the biggest myth of Ole's apparent rebuild, it's not a rebuild if you need to rebuild after 3 years.
Which it will if the balloons that keep singing Ole's at the Wheel don't get it into their skulls that they are enabling the owners/board.why would the owners be all that worried about fans? The whole super league BS is pretty much blown over. They prob just assume with ole being a club legend as a player things will prob just blow over again until end of season.
I wouldn't have thought it would cost anywhere near £30 million to sack Ole - I'm sure they could negotiate a far smaller golden handshake deal in return for it being spun as "Ole handing over the baton for the next stage in the club's progression'...or some such PR shite.I think, unfortunately for us they are still of the opinion that keeping Ole to the end of the season is better than sacking him and getting in a caretaker replacement, I think the names that are available in terms of managers right now aren't significantly better than Ole in their opinion to make it worth spending the 30 mill or whatever to sack him.
Is unsackable the same as sackless?Ole the unsackable. Pathetic
Yeah what is it they have done for two years? Please elaborateA month of poor form doesn't erase what they've been doing for two years.
It's unbelievable isn't it? How such a big organization is run by bunch of amateurs who only want to leech on past glory and have zero ambitions.I am beyond disappointed with the idiots calling the shots at my club.
They only barely play because our manager is an idiot. Over the course of a season you need a whole squad not just 9-12 players, if our squad suddenly loses 6-7 players you need to replace them.Eh, it's just rotation fodder apart from Ronaldo / Cavani who were explicitly brought in as a short term fix to the striker problem. You can barely even count people like Matic / Mata / Lingard / VdB / Bailly in there given the amount of football they play. It's also strange to blame the club / Ole for these since everyone apart from VdB have been signed by other managers a long time ago now.
But totally right in that instanceGoldbridge has changed his tune. I think just yesterday he was saying there’s no need to protest because the club was trying to tie down a replacement for Solskjaer.
A complete spoofer, and a twat on top of it.
I think he’s right, but not because he actually knows anything. He’s just reading the signals coming out of the club through journalist talk like all of us.But totally right in that instance
It's genuinely heartbreaking, mate. The fact is that every member of the caf care infinitely more than those in charge.It's unbelievable isn't it? How such a big organization is run by bunch of amateurs who only want to leech on past glory and have zero ambitions.
There's only one question these cnuts need to ask each other: can this man propel us to Premier League and/or Champions League glory and take on some of the best coaches in the world?Tweet
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Cute PR spins but if they actually had a plan he would've been let go after Liverpool drummed us at home without breaking a sweat
Their reported ‘patience’ nonsense is transparently because they hope that it either gives them time to find someone while Ole most of the blame/public beating or that we limp to 4th with him
If the poor form carries on any longer then top 4 will be gone quite soon.Writing this season off could do irreversible damage to the club for the seasons ahead.
If you're backing him then make a public statement saying you're 100% behind him you cowards. How is Ole supposed to work when he knows the board are losing confidence and waiting for one more slip up before pulling the trigger?
Actually, yesterday, he believed that the board would fire Ole. That they sent him on holiday and cancelled a friendly, suggest this.Goldbridge has changed his tune. I think just yesterday he was saying there’s no need to protest because the club was trying to tie down a replacement for Solskjaer.
A complete spoofer, and a twat on top of it.
I have serious doubts that we will be able to beat Watford. The morale is rock bottom.The worst thing will be we will beat Watford and he will be there 'we turned a corner' I am absolutely sick of this rinse and repeat crap we see under Ole.
The problem is the only managers that will be able to take down a Klopp, Tuchel, Pep and Conte are not 'Yes' men, so we're stuck in an eternal struggle for top 4.My understanding is that the board do know that he is the wrong man, but they can't find a cheap replacement, who will be a "yes" man.
Conte is a winner and he won't be a "yes" man, so they passed him up.
I believe that they are trying to get Pochetino, but he is doing well for PSG, so won't come to us.
Ralf Rangnick will be a huge problem for the board, as he has strict ideas on how a club should be run. He won't be a"yes" man.
The problem is that all the winning managers out there, are not "yes" men. They are focused on winning and don't care about playing happy families. If the board start coming out with the 4th place nonsense to a winner, he'll begin to start making statements to the press (as Jose did).
I'd like us to hire a winner.
Yep. No balls.Is unsackable the same as sackless?
He's honestly 10x the manager Ole is. At least we'd enjoy our football. Don't let this season fool you or even the run in last season, Leicester have been decimated by injuries.If the plan is that schmuck Rodgers then I don't really care about when they sack Ole, it's just a continuous circle of shite.
Some people actually believed in Ole.Honestly, now I'm praying that Ole proves me wrong and goes and wins a big trophy this season. I can't be having Rodgers. No way.
Some people actually believed in Ole.
Now....most don't.
Ole and Guardiola went into management at roughly the same time. Pep went on to win many trophies with different clubs. Ole went on to win no major trophies.
If you seriously think or thought that Ole could win a trophy, I have some magic beans that I am selling for £10000, but for you, I'll do them half price.
While Rodgers is a much better manager, he won’t win against the likes of Pep, Tuchel & Klopp. He would come in, get us to finish in the Top 4, and maybe win a cup or two. Our board would be happy with that, we have already seen that. I don’t know about you, but that scenario seems scary to me.He's honestly 10x the manager Ole is. At least we'd enjoy our football. Don't let this season fool you or even the run in last season, Leicester have been decimated by injuries.
There's no point even arguing if we're starting this far apart. I think Maguire, AwB, Shaw, Bruno, Rashford, Sancho and yes even Fred are good players with their own set of strengths and weaknesses.Yeah what is it they have done for two years? Please elaborate
Well.. yeah, but I was responding to the statement that the rebuild is bad because Bailly, Matic, Mata, VdB etc. are leaving. I don't think that makes sense.They only barely play because our manager is an idiot. Over the course of a season you need a whole squad not just 9-12 players, if our squad suddenly loses 6-7 players you need to replace them.
They sacked LVG for exactly this.While Rodgers is a much better manager, he won’t win against the likes of Pep, Tuchel & Klopp. He would come in, get us to finish in the Top 4, and maybe win a cup or two. Our board would be happy with that, we have already seen that. I don’t know about you, but that scenario seems scary to me.
Absolutely, but the thing is I feel like Rodgers would suffer the same fate as LVG, Moyes and Jose pretty quickly if things didn't go well. I can live with that, especially over unsackable Ole who I have no hope with.While Rodgers is a much better manager, he won’t win against the likes of Pep, Tuchel & Klopp. He would come in, get us to finish in the Top 4, and maybe win a cup or two. Our board would be happy with that, we have already seen that. I don’t know about you, but that scenario seems scary to me.
That game was an embarrassment. Ole and his coaches literally had no idea how to stop Pep.And then holy hell that performance against city. Losing 2-0 isnt a shame against them. The complete and utter tactical demolishing of whatever Ole was trying to do was pathetic. It literally couldn't have been more clear that he is not a top manager.
Agreed 100%.If Rodgers fails to challenge next season, sack him. If a really good manager comes along and we want him, sack Rodgers. Just act like a fecking big club, but absolutely don't do nothing and stand by a manager who has never shown he's even remotely near good enough and his football is boring to go with it. That I can't live with.
Erm, not really. He was sacked for finishing outside the Top 4. If you think we are sacking a manager that finishes in the CL places/ qualifies for CL you have not been following us that closely.They sacked LVG for exactly this.
Yes, that's my exact thinking, that's why I'm really not bothered who the next manager is. As none of our fans or board will have as much patience with the next manager.Absolutely, but the thing is I feel like Rodgers would suffer the same fate as LVG, Moyes and Jose pretty quickly if things didn't go well. I can live with that, especially over unsackable Ole who I have no hope with.
If Rodgers fails to challenge next season, sack him. If a really good manager comes along and we want him, sack Rodgers. Just act like a fecking big club, but absolutely don't do nothing and stand by a manager who has never shown he's even remotely near good enough and his football is boring to go with it. That I can't live with.
I'm at that stage. I'd genuinely be excited to just see a well coached version of this team, whether that's defensively or offensively.Yes, that's my exact thinking, that's why I'm really not bothered who the next manager is. As none of our fans or board will have as much patience with the next manager.
Just do the deed, sack him and bring anyone in, could literally be Emery I don't care.