maybe his prick of an agent shouldn't of distablised the club with his comments on the eve of the Leipzig game thenAlso according to this article, Pogba was apparently upset about how last season didn't meet his expectations. Maybe he wanted us to do way better in Europe because our league campaign wasn't as bad as many of us expected in the end.
If they are willing to give him and Raiola the money they want, then good luck and good riddance. Selling him this summer makes a lot of sense if we can find a willing buyer and PSG looks like the only game in town.He should be begging for a new contract tbh not going to an irrelevant club.
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key takeaways:
- talks expected soon, both PSG and Pogba are interested
- no official bid yet, but things could accelerate
- PSG monitoring the situation for months
- Herrera and Rafinha could leave if they sign Pogba
He doesn't care about any of that.I wonder if he’s thinking differently now that we have Sancho and Varane. If we get a CDM that can sit deep and clean everything up, do the work of two like Makalele used to, it can unlock Pogba to shine.
if I was him I might think about Chelsea, Kante or Jorginho can do that job.
I've said this before but at this stage he's really similar to Cantona.He would have been a world class #10 in the nineties.
In the 2020's, he doesn't really have a position.
There is another player in play that would push the deal over the line. It's us that need to consider to sell as Pogba is in the last year of his contract. Few months before he can sign pre contract with overseas clubs to leave for free next summer.The only club Pogba can flirt with is PSG to get himself a fat new contract. I still don’t see it - the article says Pogba is tempted by PSG - not that he wants to go - it’s still all so wishy washy even after 3 weeks of speculation.
If they don’t, resigning may make more sense for Pogba then Raiola. It looks like only PSG will break the bank for Pogba, which doesn’t help his or our bargaining position.He doesn't care about any of that.
He and Raiola want a fortune in wages and a massive signing on bonus - this is Pogba's last big contract and Raiola's last chance to make some money on the player. We're not going to give it to them, but PSG hopefully will.
Varane told Madrid he wasn’t renewing. Every reliable United source is saying we’re still in negotiations with Pogba - even that RMC report who have been pushing him going to PSG for 3 weeks doesn’t even confirm that he’s said he wants to join them. It’s all noise at the moment. People forget last summer Raiola came out and said Pogba wanted to stay as he was a big part of our project and all the noise was he was signing a new contract. Then after catching COVID and being dropped it was all about how he wanted to leave again and Ole is a cnut. Ultimately I don’t trust any of it - maybe he is off to PSG but I don’t see him playing in France at his peak years. 2 year extension then he can feck off to Spain when they sort out their finances and we still get a fee - seems an obvious win-win for everyone to me.There is another player in play that would push the deal over the line. It's us that considering to sell as Pogba is in the last year of his contract. Few months before he can sign pre contract with overseas clubs to leave for free next summer.
Just similar to Real Madrid being forced to sell after Varane refusing to renew. Varane didn't hand in transfer request. It's still enough pressure for Real Madrid take a reasonable offer now.
Pogba rejected our offer to renew. Thread title changed to reflect on that info.Varane told Madrid he wasn’t renewing. Every reliable United source is saying we’re still in negotiations with Pogba - even that RMC report who have been pushing him going to PSG for 3 weeks doesn’t even confirm that he’s said he wants to join them. It’s all noise at the moment. People forget last summer Raiola came out and said Pogba wanted to stay as he was a big part of our project and all the noise was he was signing a new contract. Then after catching COVID and being dropped it was all about how he wanted to leave again and Ole is a cnut. Ultimately I don’t trust any of it - maybe he is off to PSG but I don’t see him playing in France at his peak years. 2 year extension then he can feck off to Spain when they sort out their finances and we still get a fee - seems an obvious win-win for everyone to me.
Show me a single reliable source that says he rejected a new deal? The mirror reported it and sky jumped all over it. Romano says we’re still negotiating as does Ole - that’s enough for me.Pogba rejected our offer to renew. Thread title changed to reflect on that info.
In one hand I’d love this to be his thinking because let’s be honest the French league is crap and he’s only going because he’s pretty much guaranteed a league title every season and in the PL it’s a challenge.I wonder if he’s thinking differently now that we have Sancho and Varane. If we get a CDM that can sit deep and clean everything up, do the work of two like Makalele used to, it can unlock Pogba to shine.
if I was him I might think about Chelsea, Kante or Jorginho can do that job.
Ole: "The talks between the club and Paul’s representatives, I am not in the detail of every single one of them, so I have got nothing to say really about that."Show me a single reliable source that says he rejected a new deal? The mirror reported it and sky jumped all over it. Romano says we’re still negotiating as does Ole - that’s enough for me.
It’s ironic because I would say that most football commentators and fans would say they are disappointed with HIS contribution and the fact he is a star player on massive wages who consistently doesn’t do enough, which is, in turn, a significant part of the reason we fall short.Also according to this article, Pogba was apparently upset about how last season didn't meet his expectations. Maybe he wanted us to do way better in Europe because our league campaign wasn't as bad as many of us expected in the end.
it's down to wording, I guess. Ducker just released a piece where he writes "Pogba, 28, has yet to offer United any encouragement that he will sign a new deal".Show me a single reliable source that says he rejected a new deal? The mirror reported it and sky jumped all over it. Romano says we’re still negotiating as does Ole - that’s enough for me.
2 years ago we had “Madrid preparing bid” stories every day - like you say let’s just wait and see.Ole: "The talks between the club and Paul’s representatives, I am not in the detail of every single one of them, so I have got nothing to say really about that."
"There’s always speculation about Paul and there’s always clubs being interested."
“Of course, we have seen Paul at his best and Paul knows what we feel about it. And of course, I have enjoyed my time working with him and hopefully, we can work together. Let’s see what happens.”
Nothing different to how Real Madrid still try to talk with Varane's reps about the contract until the past few days. The keyword is progress of the talk, which we haven't gotten nowhere from when Raiola publicly stated Pogba's time at United is coming to an end. That's biggest reputable statement so far regarding Pogba!
Ole basically passed the ball here saying he got nothing to say. Let's wait and see, and hope. Neither confirming progress, nor denying approach from other clubs. Again similar to Varane's
Well that depends really, if that 40m replacement brings more balance to the team it could actually be. Id very much like to keep him but atm he is not even a guaranteed starter because we cant fit him in, especially with Sancho coming in.2 years ago we had “Madrid preparing bid” stories every day - like you say let’s just wait and see.
To the many so desperate to see him leave - If you’re Ole and the media/high number of fans are basically demanding you challenge for the title or get sacked this season - and you see City are about to add Grealish and probably Kane to their squad - Do you want Pogba for another year or not? Or are you more likely to win the league with a 40m replacement? I think it’s a pretty easy question to answer myself but seem to be in a minority.
But you can sell numerous other players to get that mythical 40m Fred upgrade - why do you have to sell Pogba to do it?Well that depends really, if that 40m replacement brings more balance to the team it could actually be. Id very much like to keep him but atm he is not even a guaranteed starter because we cant fit him in, especially with Sancho coming in.
If that 40m signing was a major upgrade on McT or Fred for instance wouldnt that make our team better ?
You really have to sell him if he wont extend and will go on a free.But you can sell numerous other players to get that mythical 40m Fred upgrade - why do you have to sell Pogba to do it?
Partly true but it’s also the amount of times he chooses to linger on the ball instead of playing it, often leading to him misplacing a pass or getting run over by 2-3 opposition players. Coupled with his inability in being a box-to-box type of player in midfield.I have always wondered what his problem was at Man United. Amazing touch , amazing passing ability, great dribbling and good physically too but its been close to disaster for both Pogba and Man Utd. People blame him not for scoring more goals or assists but more on how he helped opposition teams by losing possession in dangerous areas.
I think his main problem at Utd is , every time he gets the ball he tries to create chance (mostly because of our counter attacking style). Instead if he spends more on just casual passing to player with one touch and retain position he would have been great. Both he and Man utd coaching should have worked just on that instead of creating magic every time.
I could see he would be awesome player for a team which presses and holds possession. Or in a team where there are other world-class players and opposition is busy marking them.
Bayern didn’t sell Alaba. Liverpool didn’t sell wijnaldum. Why do you have to sell for 40m? Because it’s embarrassing? We’re more likely to win the league with him than without him next year and if I’m Ole that’s all I care about. I’d rather sell James and Lingard to keep Pogba for a year than sell Pogba and keep James and Lingard for 5 years.You really have to sell him if he wont extend and will go on a free.
He's never shown elite drive to compete. I think he likes the money and fame much more than the football. I don't mind if he leaves at all, I can't stand how easily he is dispossessed.In one hand I’d love this to be his thinking because let’s be honest the French league is crap and he’s only going because he’s pretty much guaranteed a league title every season and in the PL it’s a challenge.
On the other I’m sick of hearing if he’s staying or going, it’s that fat agent pulling the strings looking for one last big pay day off him and for that I’d love for him to leave.
All about the ££££ unfortunately, so Pogba…decide, what do you want, a challenge or money?? That would be the question I would ask him
But the player isn't committed to the cause anymore. If you're not engaged and committed mentally, then it doesn't matter what you could do physically. Ole's always kept United's best interest before his and he knows that the club is always bigger than one player. The short-term and long-term health of the squad will be better if Pogba goes and United is able to get in a player that suits the central midfield and team.Bayern didn’t sell Alaba. Liverpool didn’t sell wijnaldum. Why do you have to sell for 40m? Because it’s embarrassing? We’re more likely to win the league with him than without him next year and if I’m Ole that’s all I care about. I’d rather sell James and Lingard to keep Pogba for a year than sell Pogba and keep James and Lingard for 5 years.