Pick a Side - Players or Manager (Poll Please)

[SER19]

For Mods, it'd be great if we could get a poll here to get a gauge of where fans stand at such a critical juncture. Plenty of threads re player talk etc but a poll would be interesting.

I think the direction of the club is determined by what happens in next few weeks. Its really clear the players are running to the press yet again, and are happy to fire Rangnick and his coaches the same way as Jose and Ole. Reputations ruined by their time here.

Im not saying back a manager blindly but knowing what we know about Rangnick in football and these players and their gripes, who's side are you on right now. The players or the managers?

If it were your choice tomorrow to back the manager wholeheartedly in his plan to build for a succesor or listen to players and get rid and hire somebody of a totally different ilk that the players might approve of

 

[wolvored]

Well we got no reason to dislike the manager as hes been here about a month or so, and the fact the players are playing the same shitty football as under Ole, I would back the manager.
As interim it is hard to be too hard a manager as you have little long term influence, so this doesnt go in his favour either to control a rabble of a team/squad.

 

[Swedish_Plumber]

Use RR to weed out the poison, attempt to implement a style and then bring in Ten hag.

The guy has been here about a month. Anyone calling for his head over the players prolongs the problem and it won’t matter who we bring in on a permanent basis.

 

[MoskvaRed]

The manager. He may not be an elite coach but he has history for building clubs. I trust him to weed out the bluffers.

 

[SER19]

Well we got no reason to dislike the manager as hes been here about a month or so, and the fact the players are playing the same shitty football as under Ole, I would back the manager.
As interim it is hard to be too hard a manager as you have little long term influence, so this doesnt go in his favour either to control a rabble of a team/squad.

I suggest is as i think I've seen a noticeable shift in attitude towards Rangnick in recent days and I fear the bigger picture is getting lost in the spin

 

[CloneMC16]

As bad as the players have been, they haven't turned on a manager anywhere near this fast. They really don't seem to like this guy if the leaks are legit. Most of these players were bought by Mourinho and Ole. If they're snakes, it's on them for signing them and not getting rid.

I would still back the manager at this point, though.

 

[Strootman's Finger]

Manager, he's been here 5 mins, how could any of this possibly be his fault? It's a ridiculous assertion to blame him for the players giving up on him after a month and a handful of games.

 

[Ixion]

RR might not be the right guy but most of these players are definitely not the right players to win us League titles. I see no point any more in backing the players over a manager.

 

[McGrathsipan]

As bad as the players have been, they haven't turned on a manager anywhere near this fast. They really don't seem to like this guy if the leaks are legit. Most of these players were bought by Mourinho and Ole. If they're snakes, it's on them for signing them and not getting rid.

I would still back the manager at this point, though.

They dont like the truth.
feck them.


Manager all day long. Its not as if this bunch of cnuts are winning or energetic or even mildly entertaining.

 

[SER19]

As bad as the players have been, they haven't turned on a manager anywhere near this fast. They really don't seem to like this guy if the leaks are legit. Most of these players were bought by Mourinho and Ole. If they're snakes, it's on them for signing them and not getting rid.

I would still back the manager at this point, though.

Id argue that that's because of such a drastic shift from good guy ole to a completely unsentimental guy coming in demanding more from them. They're professional victims

 

[Bwuk]

The players need to grow up.

 

[UnsungHero]

Manager.

(Most of) the players are a disgrace to the club.

 

[clarkydaz]

We saw in his first game what the manager was supposed to be about. The players didnt like it and reverted to type.

 

[The Brown Bull]

Manager.

 

[CloneMC16]

They dont like the truth.
feck them.

Id argue that that's because of such a drastic shift from good guy ole to a completely unsentimental guy coming in demanding more from them. They're professional victims

You're both most likely right.

I would back the manager at this point. We've seen the same from these lads for way too long.

 

[Random Task]

First it was Moyes, then it was LVG, then it was Jose, then it was Ole, now it's Ralf. They've all been thrown under the bus not only by the players but also the fans and media alike, while the players continuously escape accountability. Not this time.

At some point or another, we have got to recognize the problem runs deeper than the guy picking the team.

 

[Laurencio]

Who in their right mind would be player over manager after 37 days? Clearly on the side of the manager on this. The players can do one.

 

[Fts 74]

Manager all day long.

 

[pratyush_utd]

I would back the manager because i have seen these players play under Ole as well

 

[Canucantona20]

Manager

 

[Ballache]

Manager.
It's been far too many managers now. The problem is some of the players, I just hope RR has the balls to clear some of them out and send a signal to the rest.

 

[Lost bear]

For Mods, it'd be great if we could get a poll here to get a gauge of where fans stand at such a critical juncture. Plenty of threads re player talk etc but a poll would be interesting.

I think the direction of the club is determined by what happens in next few weeks. Its really clear the players are running to the press yet again, and are happy to fire Rangnick and his coaches the same way as Jose and Ole. Reputations ruined by their time here.

Im not saying back a manager blindly but knowing what we know about Rangnick in football and these players and their gripes, who's side are you on right now. The players or the managers?

If it were your choice tomorrow to back the manager wholeheartedly in his plan to build for a succesor or listen to players and get rid and hire somebody of a totally different ilk that the players might approve of

It’s a difficult one because it doesn’t really fit well into a straightforward ‘either/or’ situation and also because ‘the players’ aren’t necessarily all the same in their attitudes.
That said, I would tend to back the manager right now, mainly because of his future role in rebuilding the club. He hasn’t achieved much so far it’s true, but in a month? Jesus, are we expecting miracles?
Klop and others have spoken very highly of him, and his work elsewhere - especially in the rebuild mode- has been exemplary. We should stick with, and get Ten Haag in the summer.

EDIT- god, I think I may have been too reasonable here!

 

[el3mel]

Why would anyone back the players ?

 

[Winrar]

Honestly seeing the players turn on him this quickly is just eye-opening. Given Rangnick's reputation, I'm willing to bet they haven't dealt with such enforcer in a while.

I'm siding with the manager on this one.

 

[tomaldinho1]

Use RR to weed out the poison, attempt to implement a style and then bring in Ten hag.

The guy has been here about a month. Anyone calling for his head over the players prolongs the problem and it won’t matter who we bring in on a permanent basis.

Exactly. RR doesn’t give a hoot about United, doesn’t have friends at the club, no history or emotional ties…he’ll take all the flak the players and their agents can throw at him as long as he feels he’s being backed. The cream will rise to the top, the rest goes down the plug hole as far as I’m concerned.

 

[Random Task]

@SER19

I don't think you need a poll.

This is a landslide!

 

[SER19]

@SER19

I don't think you need a poll.

This is a landslide!

Very reassuring! Again not to blindly back a manager but my god for players to try slander a manager to the press after a few weeks is really terrible stuff

 

[SER19]

Exactly. RR doesn’t give a hoot about United, doesn’t have friends at the club, no history or emotional ties…he’ll take all the flak the players and their agents can throw at him as long as he feels he’s being backed. The cream will rise to the top, the rest goes down the plug hole as far as I’m concerned.

This is his strength. Absolutely no bias. Its why Saint Marcus was dropped

 

[redDNA]

Manager Manager

 

[Not a plastic hoe.]

The manager of course. All the divas can feck off.

 

[Butty19]

Manager. Players have been overpaid and underworked for far too long. Go on Ralf!

 

[Heinzesight]

Ralfie baby all day long.

 

[calodo2003]

Always the manager with this squad.

 

[arthurka]

Manager enough is enough.

 

[TwoSheds]

Use RR to weed out the poison, attempt to implement a style and then bring in Ten hag.

The guy has been here about a month. Anyone calling for his head over the players prolongs the problem and it won’t matter who we bring in on a permanent basis.

I'm sorry but the guy's a short term appointment, and so far he's produced feck all. It's a disastrous appointment from the board. Again.

 

[alexthelion]

Manager.

No player is or should be bigger than the club.

 

[Antisocial]

Manager.

 

[wolvored]

I'm sorry but the guy's a short term appointment, and so far he's produced feck all. It's a disastrous appointment from the board. Again.

What else could they do though. Stick with Carrick and McKenna and Phelan, same old, or try something new and hope it works, which still could if RR holds his nerve and doesnt pussyfoot around them. Perhaps they had put the feelers out to Ten Hag and Pocc and maybe others and at least one said not now, but in the summer? Who knows? but you need some hope!

 

[Troozi]

Manager

 

[TwoSheds]

What else could they do though. Stick with Carrick and McKenna and Phelan, same old, or try something new and hope it works, which still could if RR holds his nerve and doesnt pussyfoot around them. Perhaps they had put the feelers out to Ten Hag and Pocc and maybe others and at least one said not now, but in the summer? Who knows? but you need some hope!

So what kind of fecking manager is so good that if Manchester United come for him with a wedge of cash they can just tell us to piss off until the summer? Hire someone else then if they don't want it. And crazy idea, don't sign them up on a 6 year deal and feck them off in the summer anyway if you don't like them. No other club in world football would have come up with such a stupid fecking plan as this.