Players who don't get the respect they deserve?

[Fortitude]

For example, Michael Carrick, some might say, is the epitome of this thread despite the latter day show of respect he got/gets.

I think by now Pogba, being public enemy#1, might also be a fit?

There's also a thin line where rated players get hyped a little too much, and then the hipster thing to do is to play down their ability to the point where the once, perhaps, overrated player actually becomes underrated. There's a number of players who fit this category, imo.

But what say you, who are the players being played down, denigrated and downright not getting respec' put on their names?

 

[led_scholes]

Bale. He was instrumental in 3 CL finals and one Spanish Cup. Real Madrid is a truly petty club.

 

[RedDevilCanuck]

Smalling.

Below average passer and cant carry the ball but an absolute beast defensively.

 

[Beachryan]

Always thought people underrated the contributions of Silvestre. Mainstay in some very good teams, but always a bit of a mockery.

 

[The Cat]

Park from any other club outside our own.

 

[Wednesday at Stoke]

Milner. Solid professional who does a job everywhere they play him.
Vardy has been a top class premier league striker over the past 3 seasons and it surprises me that he's still at Leicester. He could be an absolute nightmare at any premier league side bar City.

 

[BBRBB]

David Luiz, his few feck ups here and there are overstated and he's been very useful for his clubs during his career.

 

[Fletchageddon]

Young, Smalling, Jones, Shaw, Mata. All done amazingly well considering the changeover in managers and the 3 (now 4 with Ole) different systems that have been imposed upon on the squad.

All have been class for us at some point over the years.

For instance De Gea is praised but his role stays the same regardless who the manager is. Easier for him to be consistent.

 

[r3idy]

I would put Carles Puyol in that list. Always came across as a player who was just taken for granted. Technically he wasn't the most gifted of defenders and within his peers there was probably players with more finesse and grace. However what a player and a leader who would run through brick walls for the Barca cause.

 

[Red_toad]

Smalling.

Below average passer and cant carry the ball but an absolute beast defensively.

I always find it funny on how he's judged on things he potentially does, but doesn't actually do. I read comments on here and he's potentially sent off or giving away penalties on a regular basis.

Lad had a great performance against Barca last season, but it seems to have completely been forgotten. He just gets judged on things his game lacks, rather than acknowledging what he's actually good at.

 

[SuperiorXI]

Dzeko didn't get enough respect at City I felt.

 

[GlasgowCeltic]

I would put Carles Puyol in that list. Always came across as a player who was just taken for granted. Technically he wasn't the most gifted of defenders and within his peers there was probably players with more finesse and grace. However what a player and a leader who would run through brick walls for the Barca cause.

Showed his quality in his spells at right back

 

[Nico87]

Claude Makalele by Real Madrid, not valuing him probably cost them a cou0le of champions Leagues.

 

[Bobski]

James Milner. An absolute beast of an athlete, fantastic attitude, understated leadership qualities and a much better footballer than he is given credit for, The type of player every top team needs, his time with England had him a figure of fun mainly due to the failings of the stars he was there to support.

 

[Tostao_80]

Rivaldo! He was much closer to Zidane than people gave him credit for. He was less elegant of course but compare the 2's clubs and international careers and there really isn't much in it (bias aside). For example, he was a much better consistent perfomer than Zizou in the league. This was Zizou's weakness. Many at Juve weren't too disappointed they got the more consistent but also great Pavel Nedved to replace him. Zizou has the edge in the CL, despite playing with better teams (Juve) and much better players (Real).
Now for the internationals. Rivaldo was very good at 2 WCs. Zizou was good at 2 (though non of his WCs matched Rivaldo's 02). Copa vs Euros?
Rivaldo was topscorer and best player at Copa 99, lethal! Zizou was simply magical at Euro 2000. A tie.
I would give Rivaldo the slight edge at the international scene due to having 2 slightly better WCs.
Zizou's elegance and control vs Rivaldo's decisiveness?
Infact, for 25 years after Platini in the 80s there hasn't been a better goal scoring midfielder than Rivaldo.
He is underated and didn't/ doesn't get the respect he deserves as one of the best attacking midfielders of the last 50 years..

 

[RedDevilCanuck]

Dzeko didn't get enough respect at City I felt.

this

 

[Tomuś]

Always thought people underrated the contributions of Silvestre. Mainstay in some very good teams, but always a bit of a mockery.

He was ace on the left in his first seasons from what I remember. Some brilliant assists.

After that he was a good squad player to have but always seemed to have an absolute clanger in him. Perhaps the mockery didn't help as he was under scrutiny all the time.

 

[OverratedOpinion]

Players like Ricardo Carvalho who form a partnership with more attention grabbing teammates often don't get the recognition or respect they deserve.

 

[Tomuś]

Dzeko didn't get enough respect at City I felt.

Definitely.

 

[OverratedOpinion]

He was ace on the left in his first seasons from what I remember. Some brilliant assists.

After that he was a good squad player to have but always seemed to have an absolute clanger in him. Perhaps the mockery didn't help as he was under scrutiny all the time.

He played an absolute worldie of a cross for a Rooney goal against Arsenal around 2005.

 

[Irwin99]

Paul Ince. A very powerful, dynamic and skilful midfielder.

Silveste is one I've seen mentioned and maybe there's a case. Provided some excellent assists from left back and was super quick but, like Smalling, the good points are offset by some of his failings (concentration/clumsiness). Looking back we should have bought a better left back/centre back after 1999.

 

[Tomuś]

In the past I'd say Redondo of Madrid.

 

[U-N-I-T-E-D]

Ashley Young!

Alright, he's not phenomenal but he's been a complete professional while at United and played in many positions without moaning or kicking up a fuss

 

[Tomuś]

He played an absolute worldie of a cross for a Rooney goal against Arsenal around 2005.

Played this clip thousands of times back then. Everything about this goal was perfect.

 

[Eric's Seagull]

Denis Irwin. Exemplified by this quote from Sir Alex "People ask you who is your best Man United team, it is absolutely impossible. But honestly, I would say Denis Irwin would be the one certainty to get in the team. I called him an eight out of 10. At Highbury in one game he had a bad pass back in the last minute and Bergkamp came in and scored. After the game the press said ‘you must be disappointed in that pass back. I said, well, one mistake in 10 years isn’t bad. He was an unbelievable player".

Scored 22 goals of which most were penalties and never missed 1!

 

[Fortitude]

Dzeko is a good one; he's a very good and competent striker who is, somehow, an afterthought in the consciousness of many. Him doing it (delivering) for years now underscores the point that he is due more recognition.

 

[Bwuk]

Jamie Vardy.

One of the best strikers in the league and has been for a few seasons now.

 

[M Bison]

Ashley Young!

Alright, he's not phenomenal but he's been a complete professional while at United and played in many positions without moaning or kicking up a fuss

Agreed

But prepare for the backlash from others!

 

[M Bison]

Darren Fletcher - was immense for a few years, i always felt we let him go too early.

 

[Sea-Cow]

Played this clip thousands of times back then. Everything about this goal was perfect.

Its hard to pick the best part.

The cross? Excellent
The first touch? Couldn't have done it any better
The finish? He absolutely smashes it

 

[Copa Mundial]

A bit left field but how about Nathan Ake.

He hasn't got any obvious weaknesses and I genuinely don't think he would look out of place at any of the top 6 clubs.

 

[King7Eric]

Might be a bit out there but Wayne Rooney. The amount of people who crop up and say he was never world class and all that is staggering. In his 13 years here, apart from the last 2, he was always amongst our most productive players. But people make it seem like he was only lauded due to his passion and aggression, they really underestimate his footballing brain. As thick might act outside the football field, on it he was as fine a brain as any.

 

[FootballHQ]

Pickford. Been actually very solid on the whole at NT level.

Yes his level did drop for Everton for a couple of months last season (as did the other 10 in the team) but had a strong end to the season with clean sheets v Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea and Man. United.

 

[Dancfc]

Drogba. He's still seen by a lot of people as a technically limited battering ram which is criminal.

 

[M Bison]

Drogba. He's still seen by a lot of people as a technically limited battering ram which is criminal.

Nah don't agree with that, Drogba was phenomenal and is rightly thought of as such.

 

[JJ12]

Ashley Young!

Alright, he's not phenomenal but he's been a complete professional while at United and played in many positions without moaning or kicking up a fuss

I agree. Our club has a weird obsession with scapegoats. He's taken Fellaini's place now.

 

[MikeUpNorth]

Alex Ferguson was a much better player than he gets credit for. Look at his goal scoring record.

 

[VorZakone]

Carrick at his peak was one of Europe's best deep-lying playmakers. Obviously he wasn't the sole reason for United's success during 2006-2009 but you can't deny Carrick's impact.

 

[SteveW]

Smalling


Good defender yet gets dogs abuse and is constantly unfairly lumped in with Jones

 

[Dancfc]

Carrick at his peak was one of Europe's best deep-lying playmakers. Obviously he wasn't the sole reason for United's success during 2006-2009 but you can't deny Carrick's impact.

I genuinely believe England would have won the 2006 WC playing 433, Carrick would have allowed Lampard and Gerrard more freedom and at the time those two, Terry, Rio, both Cole's and Rooney were top 5 in their positions if not 3. Sven was gutless.