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Sat, 29 October 2016

TheReligion

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That's because you lack creativity.

You don't have a Coutinho, Ozil, Eriksen or Silva.

I remain unconvinced that Pogba was what you needed. If you are spending that sort of cash, you might have done all you could to get a Griezmann.

As for Zlatan. Despite being a former great player, at the age of 35, he was always going to struggle with the intensity and physicality of the EPL over a full season and his recent dip in form seems to confirm that.
Thats a very poor and misinformed post which shows you have seen very little of United and are just speaking in generalisations.

Pogba is improving each week. He was superb yesterday. Zlatan isn't struggling with physicality or intensity, he's struggling infront of goal oddly.

The team isn't short on creativity and is creating chance after chance. Mkhitaryan is still to come in too.
 

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Thats a very poor and misinformed post which shows you have seen very little of United and are just speaking in generalisations.

Pogba is improving each week. He was superb yesterday. Zlatan isn't struggling with physicality or intensity, he's struggling infront of goal oddly.

The team isn't short on creativity and is creating chance after chance. Mkhitaryan is still to come in too.
OK

You are right and I am wrong

Let's see where you are in the table come New Year
 

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OK

You are right and I am wrong

Let's see where you are in the table come New Year
It's not a case of being right or being wrong it's a case of posting sense over misinformation.

United have a few issues but what you've highlighted are none of them.
 

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Chicharito would've fit into this system like a hand into a glove. Chances galore for a specialist finisher.

Fecking LvG :mad:
sadly....chicharito is not jose type of striker...stop blaming for the past cause we just like the pools fans in that manner....anyway, if not because LVG, we might never see martial and rashford in the fist team.....
 

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Thats a very poor and misinformed post which shows you have seen very little of United and are just speaking in generalisations.

Pogba is improving each week. He was superb yesterday. Zlatan isn't struggling with physicality or intensity, he's struggling infront of goal oddly.

The team isn't short on creativity and is creating chance after chance. Mkhitaryan is still to come in too.

Hallelujah.

Somebody speaking sense. Agree whole heartedly with this. Against Leicester, Stoke and Burnley we played as well as we have for years. Even against Chelsea, the team performance was in no way a 4 nil drubbing, it was just Smalling was horrendous.

Pogba has hit the woodwork 3 times now, all very unlucky and so could potentially have 6 goals.

Pogba has also laid on about 10 clear cut chances for zlatan. Had he converted half we'd be top of the league. I agree he isn't struggling physically......just not taking his chances and all strikers go through that. When he gets 1 he'll get 10 in 6 or something.

We need to get cut the 8 points in half by xmas. If we do (I fully expect us to), then we'll be in the mix
 

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Nice one Jojose, a sensible summary as opposed to an emotional outburst.

Need to start at Swansea though. (just like we were supposed to start with Burnley):rolleyes:
 

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Nice one Jojose, a sensible summary as opposed to an emotional outburst.

Need to start at Swansea though. (just like we were supposed to start with Burnley):rolleyes:
That's very true.

We should be at very least 4 points better off than we are. We should have beaten both Burnley and Stoke.

The Zlatan header at Anfield, the similar chance at Stamford Bridge and also his header at Watford I think would have resulted in 3 points at Anfield, a draw at Chelsea (maybe) and atleast a point at Watford.

Not even going to mention the City game and the penalty and red card.

We have been unlucky. With the performances we have put in and without being unlucky (never mind receiving some luck), we could easily be top of the league. Easily.

But we do need to start putting teams away and I don't think we are far away from doing so.

I know I certainly game away from the game on sat far more positive (if very frustrated) than I did from the 0-0 home draws under LVG last year.
 

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I'm not worried. We're finally creating chances, not just hoofing it up the field. We must just carry on playing well, and goals will follow.
 

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If you want to cheer yourself up, have a flick through last year's yearbook and look at our stats against the weaker sides at home. The difference in performance from last year at home is already vast, even if we haven't been getting what we deserve.
 

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Guys I was at the game today and didn't think darmians shout in the first half was a pen (having just watched motd I think it probably was though!)

But there was one in the 2nd half just after Herreras sending off, again on Darmian Which looked a stonewall. Was hoping motd would show it but they didn't. Anything in it? Any gif at all?
Anybody got a vid of this 2nd half penalty incident? Not seen it mentioned since @GifLord
 

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Thats a very poor and misinformed post which shows you have seen very little of United and are just speaking in generalisations.

Pogba is improving each week. He was superb yesterday. Zlatan isn't struggling with physicality or intensity, he's struggling infront of goal oddly.

The team isn't short on creativity and is creating chance after chance. Mkhitaryan is still to come in too.
In total agreement with your post.
 

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His substitutions were nothing short of disgraceful.
I agree they weren't great! But it was tough when we went down to 10 men.
Rooney and Fellaini are just too slow on the ball and not direct enough... they actually made our situation worse. Depay just looks lost whenever he comes on.
 

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Thats a very poor and misinformed post which shows you have seen very little of United and are just speaking in generalisations.

Pogba is improving each week. He was superb yesterday. Zlatan isn't struggling with physicality or intensity, he's struggling infront of goal oddly.

The team isn't short on creativity and is creating chance after chance. Mkhitaryan is still to come in too.
Totally agree with your post.

I think our main issues at the moment are getting Mkhitaryan and Martial fit and starting and also finding a solution for Zlatan's struggles in front of goal.
 

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Set us up well tbf to him. But subbing on Rooney for Mata was just stupid
I agree. Mata doesn't move around enough for JM, but he is more of an intelligent player than Rooney is, he also creates and scores more than him... so yes I agree with that.
 

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Thats a very poor and misinformed post which shows you have seen very little of United and are just speaking in generalisations.

Pogba is improving each week. He was superb yesterday. Zlatan isn't struggling with physicality or intensity, he's struggling infront of goal oddly.

The team isn't short on creativity and is creating chance after chance. Mkhitaryan is still to come in too.
Yes I would only add that despite missing 3-4 Chances he should have put away Zlatan is contributing allot in terms of link up play and providing great chances for his teammates.

I hope that JM tries playing him behind a main striker like Rashford or Martial, think it would be a perfect compliment to their respective skill sets. Once our friend HM comes in it should be something to write home about.
 

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It was a really bizarre game, one of those games that we would have won 99 times out of 100 but Saturday was just that one time.

The only thing I can really fault Mourinho on was taking off Mata when he was playing very well and was always capable of creating something out of nothing.

I'm encouraged that we created chances and continued to press until the last minute, despite being down to ten men. It's obvioulsy very frustrating dropping points against the likes of Burnely and Stoke at home and it puts a lot of pressure on us to beat the bigger teams when those games come around but I think when we start building some momentum then we should be able to catch up.

If we can be there or thereabouts in terms of the top 4 come Christmas/New Year then I think we will have a realistic shot at finishing in the CL places at least. This is obviously dependent on starting to win games pretty soon and I think we now definitely have to beat Arsenal and Spurs in the next month to give ourselves a fighting chance.
 

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Thats a very poor and misinformed post which shows you have seen very little of United and are just speaking in generalisations.

Pogba is improving each week. He was superb yesterday. Zlatan isn't struggling with physicality or intensity, he's struggling infront of goal oddly.

The team isn't short on creativity and is creating chance after chance. Mkhitaryan is still to come in too.
Did you think he was? I'm not trying to stir up anything, I just didn't see him as 'superb'. I admit I am expecting probably too much out of him. But I did see him with a couple bad giveaways, and still not crazy about those 30+ yard pot shots. His pass into Zlatan was superb though (I know there were others), should've been an assist for certain.
 

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Hallelujah.

Somebody speaking sense. Agree whole heartedly with this. Against Leicester, Stoke and Burnley we played as well as we have for years. Even against Chelsea, the team performance was in no way a 4 nil drubbing, it was just Smalling was horrendous.

Pogba has hit the woodwork 3 times now, all very unlucky and so could potentially have 6 goals.

Pogba has also laid on about 10 clear cut chances for zlatan. Had he converted half we'd be top of the league. I agree he isn't struggling physically......just not taking his chances and all strikers go through that. When he gets 1 he'll get 10 in 6 or something.

We need to get cut the 8 points in half by xmas. If we do (I fully expect us to), then we'll be in the mix
Some of Pogba's passing on Saturday was awesome. Totally agree he is improving week by week. More to go of course, but I enjoyed watching him vs Burnley.

I am just having more fun watching United this year. It obviously is not showing up in the results of late, but this is much more fun for me than the last 3 years (sans Chelsea!).
 

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Just one of those games. Another day and its a 6-0 rout. But well played Burnley, they defended well, keeper had a blinder and a bit of luck. Im not concerned witht the way we played just about the lack of scoring really.
 

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Just one of those days where nothing was going to go in. Heaton played out of his mind and we couldn't finish a glass of milk. Even if we were rightfully awarded the PK, it probably gets saved on a day like today. Side was well chosen and on the front foot all day even playing down a man. I'll call out Jose when deserved, but he nailed it today. He can't tap it in for the boys. One of them days...I'm just glad we didn't get 'Burned' and let them steal the win.
Thats what would have happened last season under LVG.
We'd have lost that game.
 

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It's just Zlatan's finishing. It's not like he isn't getting the chances because of poor movement etc. We have every reason to be optimistic going into our next games given the standard of our general play. Not worried.
 

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It was a really bizarre game, one of those games that we would have won 99 times out of 100 but Saturday was just that one time.
The thing is, while I would normally agree with you, the same happened against Stoke and the same against Hull. Against hull we scored in the dying seconds, against Stoke we scored once but then threw it away and then here, we drew 0-0. Its becoming a recurring theme, struggling to score goals. Sure, we are creating a ton of chances and its a huge improvement on last year, but at the same time, a lot of the chances are more half chances we create. Enough half chances that eventually we would break through and grab a few, but still if you look at it, we dont create all that many massive chances where its hard to miss. Thats the difference so far between our goalscoring and that of liverpool, city, arsenal... They have around the same amount but the pace of their play gives them huge chances that give easy finishes unlike most of ours.
 

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I actually thought we played alright, if Ibrahimovic was in the form he showed at the start of the season he would've had a hat trick on Saturday. Fair play to Heaton though, he was fantastic 10/10 performance.
 

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