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That Lingard back pass was like the Gerrard one v Chelsea.
At least Gerrard had a reason for such behaviour!
At least Gerrard had a reason for such behaviour!
At least Newcastle looked dangerous whenever they got the ball. We never even got the ball, much less look dangerous on it.The sending off doesn't excuse that second half performance, we just reverted to playing how Newcastle played on Saturday but with less pace on the counter, we had no tactical pkan that was visible andwe couldn't keep hold of the ball.
stats without context are nothing. its a thing of our time that such senseless data is thrown around. ole played psg and barca twice and had one group stage with psg and rb leipzig in it. yes we lost today and should get at least a point but its not all shitTweet
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typical losers attitude.....google Sean Connery and prom queen pleaseI said it was a tougher group than people thought as soon as Atalanta came out of Pot 3. Young Boys out of Pot 4, considering their record last year, was potentially going to offer real problems too, especially when you play them with 10 men.
Comments on here leading up to the game were farcical. Teams need to be good to reach the CL for the most part.
But we weren't comfortable. They were all over us. We were booting the ball away in desperation, early. Time wasting at every opportunity.You have to run harder when you are a man down. And they are playing at home with the crowd behind him. It's an unnecessary tactic when you are comfortably a goal up and they are taking pot shots outside the box.
Fair enough, also difficult to argue with any of that. Conflicting passions after the match are understandable, it was a tough watch.The last two lines. So easy to abuse the manager. I agree he's not of the same calibre as the top guns in business, but that was just plain nonsense.
Don't look at the name, look at the team. Man for man they were stronger, faster, and more energetic. And they had an extra man for almost an hour, of course, along with one of the loudest home supports I've ever seen, felt like Turkey all over again. They were used to the astroturf, we weren't. Constantly slipping and misplacing passed both to man and into space - there's a reason why artificial pitches are looked down upon. It was a team possessed, they played like Leeds on drugs, like I said in another thread. Their celebrations should tell you everything - they were delirious about winning their cup final - a win they wouldn't have had if not for a Lingard brainfart with the last touch of the game.
Contrary to the EL final, I felt Ole was better with his subs today as well. Each of his subs, bar Martial in the end, got us more control in the game. A point away in the CL was a good return even with better teams under SAF with 11 men on the pitch. And I feel we were robbed of a penalty and that the home team got away with fouls in the name of passion as well. It's all well and nice when you want us to keep attacking, but given how YB were playing , we'd have conceded 3 or 4 more on the counter and then these knee-jerkers would be complaining about how Ole got hammered by nobodies. Like it or not, our already weak midfield was horribly exposed till Ole took Bruno and Ronaldo off and Pogba shifted back into the middle. It was one man heroics by Fred for over half an hour.
Ole has had terrible games before, but I don't think this is one of them. Not even close.
2 chances have a look at the match again ffs.Care to explain how I'm wrong? Or are kids emojis the limit of your vocabulary?
I watched the entire match, I remember 2 chances they created, the shot from the edge of the box immediately after the red, and the cross that deflected off Shaw for their first goal.2 chances have a look at the match again ffs.
Not just sometimes with Ole. If only it wasAnd here we are… Ole blamed for Lingard’s poor back pass. The tactics were to hit the ball over the top for Martial to either get loose or kill the game with a point. Lingard was playing deeper, in Fred’s spot because Fred was absolutely knackered and not closing quick enough.
Stop. If you need someone to blame because that’s how you vent, fine, but it doesn’t make it right or valid. I know that intellectually, it’s hard to imagine that one can make the right choice, but have the wrong outcome (or vice versa), but sometimes this happens in life.
Actually, going to a back 3 was smart. Young Boys generated most of their chances from the wings in the early going. After AWB went off, we played a 4-4-1 and They were deployed in a 4-3-3, with a natural advantage in midfield of 3v2. Going to a back 3 allows that third CB to step between the lines to defend that 3rd midfielder. Pressing further up the pitch in a 4-4-1 is madness because at that point the midfield advantage in space is very dangerous with 4 defenders.He brings Verane on and takes VDB off so we basically allow YB to get to our area with nothing to stop them in midfield. He then takes off our goal threat by bringing off Bruno and Ronaldo, then flip flops on 89 mins and brings on Martial for a quick goal, who has shown nothing of note and leaves Greenwood on the bench. Best sub he did was taking the ineffectual Sancho off.
I suppose if we are going to expect a 100% record and absolutely no mistakes, you are right, we should sack him. If that’s the standard, there isn’t a human alive that could be manager for long though.Not just sometimes with Ole. If only it was
Nothing to see? Seven defeats in 11 Champions League games under OleI suppose if we are going to expect a 100% record and absolutely no mistakes, you are right, we should sack him. If that’s the standard, there isn’t a human alive that could be manager for long though.
Best post I’ve seen all night.Was a mess of a game...but you should never over analyse a match too much...the circumstances caused chaos and no one came out of it with any glory.
Have a brew and an early night...bring on the weekend.
This is pure complacency. We have seven defeats in 11 Champions League games under Ole. And the disastrous defeat to Villarreal in the Europa League final. What makes you think it is a one offPositives from tonight :
If you're going to lose a game in that manner, this is probably the best game from our fixture list to do it in - it wasn't a league game,or a knockout game.
Better to lose this game now then in our 3rd or 4th game
Young Boys will take some points from other teams at home.
Our kit is very nice
Are you happy with Dalot at RB? Just wondered or are there any other way round it.Positives from tonight :
If you're going to lose a game in that manner, this is probably the best game from our fixture list to do it in - it wasn't a league game,or a knockout game.
Better to lose this game now then in our 3rd or 4th game
Young Boys will take some points from other teams at home.
Our kit is very nice
We were fine, haven't threatened the goal directly but it felt like a relaxing game where we control / score a few.Wasn’t able to watch the game. How were we playing up until the AWB red card?
The Ronaldo goal was a very good one from the highlights and any demonstration of growing chemistry between him and Bruno is great.
I think (hope) this will be a bit of a rocket and we'll go on to qualify from here. Think it would have been worse if this loss game in the 4th game....based on nothing but pure hope.This is pure complacency. We have seven defeats in 11 Champions League games under Ole. And the disastrous defeat to Villarreal in the Europa League final. What makes you think it is a one off
Honestly, I think he's a bit rubbish. But he's all we have so might as well give him a chance. Rather that then play a CB out of position.Are you happy with Dalot at RB? Just wondered or are there any other way round it.
I'd argue a De Jong type, too. A Rice so we actually have someone capable of shielding and contributing to the defence (our incredible 06-11 defence had Carrick despite all the praise the back 5 gets) and a De Jong so we actually have someone who can control a game, keep the ball under pressure and help the team settle when things are getting tough.This is why we need a Rice type
That's hipster talk!Every other top 4 side controls that game with 10 men. Or at least has a fecking shot
We scored against the tide. Ronaldo completely shocked them with his very first touch.Wasn’t able to watch the game. How were we playing up until the AWB red card?
The Ronaldo goal was a very good one from the highlights and any demonstration of growing chemistry between him and Bruno is great.