Premier League Gameweek 14-16

[Oranges038]

I am surprised people watch this Liverpool. They are good and lucky...how can anyone watch them I don't know.

It reminds us of the football from the 90s.

Kick and rush, long diagonals and crosses clipped in from full backs.

 

[GaryLifo]

Palace needed to score their chance. Liverpool will score at some stage and that will be that

 

[fallengt]

It counts as same play.

VAR can't interfere unless it's a redcard challenge

 

[christinaa]

Not just this, but Konate shoved a player in the area worse than that foul on endo and it didn't even get reviewed

And Virgil fouled and pushed for his first goal.

 

[Leftback99]

Liverpool will win. Don't get your hopes up.

 

[VanGaalyTime]

VAR can't interfere unless it's a redcard challenge

This is it. So why is VAR getting involved here?

 

[Andycoleno9]

It's an obvious foul and it took ages, completely pointless

Really? Imo, it was not obvious foul. It is 50:50 decision and ref should have not overrule it. It is huge huge call. 0:0, penalty for home team, classic liverpool.

 

[GaryLifo]

And Virgil fouled and pushed for his first goal.

After spurs game there was no chance any VAR decision would go against them for the rest of the season. Surprised they didn't offer them the option to make their own VAR calls from now on

 

[christinaa]

After spurs game there was no chance any VAR decision would go against them for the rest of the season. Surprised they didn't offer them the option to make their own VAR calls from now on

Agree

 

[Andycoleno9]

How can that be same play?

Should have been free kick. He let that go. Next situation is weather it is penalty or not. Not if it is free kick or not. That is another different situation. In my view.

Pen happened few seconds after foul. How it is not same play?
And, by the rules, same play is until the oppo team gets control on the ball.

 

[Jordan_mufc]

Liverpool will win this but they're not good enough to win the league imo. Playing poorly for too often.

And I don't get the whole "champions win when they don't play well". Yes that's true but that's only on a handful of occasions over the season. Play like dross for long enough and you'll find out

 

[cyberman]

1. It was a good save from Allison.
2. I said what I said. If this was Rashford none of us would say he went down easy or it was a separate phase of play.

Palace player should have buried it the. It flies off the post instead of going on. That’s lucky for feck sake

It literally happened for us against Arsenal at home last year. We were told it was a VAR mistake because the ref clearly saw it and didn’t give it even though it was a foul it was a failing protocol.
Today’s ref clearly saw it, put the whistle to his mouth and didn’t give it. It’s the same thing, that’s why it took so long today since he saw it and already made his decision and was struggling to overturn it.
He should never have been brought over

 

[Andycoleno9]

This is it. So why is VAR getting involved here?

Penalty decision. And because penalty was in the same play as foul, they watch whole thst play.

 

[GaryLifo]

It's all very subtle, but notice how any physical coming together in which a Palace player comes out with the ball is a foul. The other way around it's more often play on

 

[Oranges038]

Endo's got it now.

All he has to do is drop to the ground at every little touch now and he'll get his free.

 

[fallengt]

This is it. So why is VAR getting involved here?

who the heck know?
Unless it's straight redcard, goal check, offside, handball that's lead to goal. Otherwise VAR can't interfere.
No one checks for possible foul before possible pen, that's bullshit. That's onfield ref's job

 

[90 + 5min]

Penalty decision. And because penalty was in the same play as foul, they watch whole thst play.

So I'll ask you what I wrote in VAR and refs thread.

If same thing happened between Hughes and Endo near Crystal Palace corner flag. CP passes ball for 3 minutes without ball going out, attacks and exactly same situation happened in Liverpool penalty area. Would it have been penalty? Or freekick for Liverpool?

 

[cyberman]

Pen happened few seconds after foul. How it is not same play?
And, by the rules, same play is until the oppo team gets control on the ball.

But it’s not a goal or red card challenge, why is VAR involved?

 

[RG77]

Liverpool got some mediocre players as part of their rebuild. Nunez is so damm average.

 

[PoTMS]

VAR gets involved in 4 match-changing situations:

• Goals & offences leading up to a goal
• Penalty decisions & offences leading up to a penalty
• Direct red card incidents
• Mistaken identity

 

[DJ_21]

Feel like palace can snatch a goal here

 

[DJ_21]

Liverpool got some mediocre players as part of their rebuild. Nunez is so damm average.

And Endo is awful. Amrabat and Mctominay are both better

 

[GaryLifo]

VAR gets involved in 4 match-changing situations:

• Goals & offences leading up to a goal
• Penalty decisions & offences leading up to a penalty
• Direct red card incidents
• Mistaken identity

You missed one

5. When Klopp pulls his face of disbelief

 

[Andycoleno9]

But it’s not a goal or red card challenge, why is VAR involved?

It is an offence which led to a goal.

 

[John_Jensen]

In that replay the ref looked like he was about to blow for a free kick so why did he stop and let it carry on?

He was gonna blow for an Endo handball

 

[GaryLifo]

It is an offence which led to a goal.

Must have missed the goal then somehow

 

[AltiUn]

Must have missed the goal then somehow

You know what he meant, it was an offence that lead to a penalty which allows VAR to intervene.

 

[2 man midfield]

It is an offence which led to a goal.

Surely then they’d have to allow the pen and only rule it out if it was scored?

 

[2 man midfield]

You know what he meant, it was an offence that lead to a penalty which allows VAR to intervene.

It would’ve then indirectly led to a goal. Same as a corner being awarded and a goal being scored from it.

 

[DJ_21]

He was gonna blow for an Endo handball

Argh fair enough.

 

[christinaa]

Makes me think!

 

[GaryLifo]

You know what he meant, it was an offence that lead to a penalty which allows VAR to intervene.

The bottom line is that since the Spurs game when they did get a bad VAR call and they threatened to go into full on scouse petition mode, they have not had one subjective VAR decision not go in their favour. It was almost worth dropping a point v spurs to benefit from favourable subjective decisions for the rest of the season.

 

[fallengt]

VAR gets involved in 4 match-changing situations:

• Goals & offences leading up to a goal
• Penalty decisions & offences leading up to a penalty
• Direct red card incidents
• Mistaken identity

So why ref apologized to Arsenal last year? When they scored a goal from obvious foul from Odeegard at Old trafford

 

[AltiUn]

The bottom line is that since the Spurs game when they did get a bad VAR call and they threatened to go into full on scouse petition mode, they have not had one subjective VAR decision not go in their favour. It was almost worth dropping a point v spurs to benefit from favourable subjective decisions for the rest of the season.

Maybe, but this was really cut and dry, it's a very obvious foul and we'd have been beyond livid if it'd happened to us and it stood.

 

[2 man midfield]

So why ref apologized to Arsenal last year? When they scored a goal from obvious foul from Odeegard at Old trafford

Mental they got an apology for that. Not only was it the right call, it wasn’t even in the top 10 var controversies. It has to generate a lot of noise to get an apology now.

 

[Oranges038]

Be interesting to see how Trent Alexander Spamalongball gets on in midfield here.

Not doing much so far.

Palace defence and midfield is well organised.

 

[chicha14]

How was that not a yellow card against Nunez?

 

[DJ_21]

Penalty here if that took forever

 

[FireballXL5]

Half an hour later...

 

[PoTMS]

That's a clear penalty. Why did it take so long?