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I've always thought the FA cup winners should get a CL place, there's a case for the EFL winners as well, that way only the top 2 qualify through the league and it incentivizes winning a trophy, the reality is the CL is never getting smallerPerhaps finishing in the top 4 for the first time or for the first time in a long time can be special but it's not the same as a trophy.
Unfortunately money has turned it into some sort of achievement.
The Champions League should either be smaller or winning The FA cup should give you a place and fewer places offered for league finishes
Maybe prestige isnt the right word but you club becomes more attractive for better players when the club is participating in the CL. Players really do care about playing in the CL. Take Ajax as an example. The reason they were able to sign players like Antony and Martinez was because Ajax is participating in the CL and some players prefer that over siging for a mid table team in a better league.You get prestige by winning trophies, not finishing in the top 4, money on the scale it's at now has ruined football and is unsustainable IMO
Well if you keep signing better players than eventually you should be able to perform better. Round of 16 first, sign better players and get an extra round the year after. In theory that is, you just need to prevent your best players from being poached from your club. If you play in the CL the chances of your best players staying also increases.That’s just not true though. It once was, but it’s not now. The Champions League has been broken for a long time now. It’s revenue generating but what’s the point in just floating through a season, getting to the Round of 16 and then signing slightly better players to do exactly the same thing the year after?
Only 8 teams have won it in the last 20 years, and 13 in the last 30. It’s a closed shop. There are no real surprises. The last being Porto, and they needed the worlds best manager (at the time) and an accidental and large collection of players that went on to be world class.
Qualifying for it doesn’t really improve your chances to actually win it. You’ve got to be insanely rich, or slightly less rich and be an Historic huge club with a huge pull to be in with a chance.
It’s a far worse competition year on year. It’s been managed into a space that rewards and maintains the status quo.
This only happens at the top clubs. CL qualification hasn’t helped Spurs. Not Leicester. It didn’t help Arsenal for years. Dortmund, Lille, Lyon, PSV, Atalanta, Ajax, and so on… you may get a freak bit of fun, but power has been consolidated.Well if you keep signing better players then eventually you should be able to perform better.
Who went on to become world class from that Porto side? I'll give you Deco and Ricardo Carvalho but that's it.The last being Porto, and they needed the worlds best manager (at the time) and an accidental and large collection of players that went on to be world class.
Nah. More than that. Albeit many are tenuous and I should have said that some peaked in that side rather than ‘went on to’. World Class was a little heavy.Who went on to become world class from that Porto side? I'll give you Deco and Ricardo Carvalho but that's it.
I agree about the CL being a closed shop and its role in maintaining the status quo though.
If the winner has already qualified then the runner-up would get inI know it won't happen or be popular, and it would probably feck United over if it happened, but I'd personally prefer the 4th CL place goes to the FA Cup Winner
100%. This explains why so many people are sucking Arsenal off just for finishing 2nd. I never understand why so many fans define their season by achieving top 4 then moaning for the whole of the following season about midweek games, rotation, resting players and the best kicker of all....having the best chance of the PL title by getting booted out of Europe.You only have to read the relevant threads in the CAF to know a large percentage of United fans think the same way, winning things are much more important to me than finishing top 4 to qualify for the CL and always will be
In that case give it to 4thIf the winner has already qualified then the runner-up would get in