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What's the news on these guys? Are they in England yet? I remember reading they'd come to United in January, haven't heard anything since.
early July they turn 18 iirc (July 9th rings a bell for some reason) so i think they should be available for all of pre-season. they're definitely training with us now, keep seeing them at OT on matchdays in their club tracksuits.dont think they can play anything but friendlies until they turn 18 (in aug)
think they are training with uss
Correct.early July they turn 18 iirc (July 9th rings a bell for some reason) so i think they should be available for all of pre-season. they're definitely training with us now, keep seeing them at OT on matchdays in their club tracksuits.
They haven't played for us yet.. They will probably make their debuts for the reserves, while the first team squad is in South-Africa..Has anyone seen these lads play for us yet? When are they making there debut?
Petrucci is way too young! He will have a good season or so with Academy before seeing Reserve team action.Neither. Nor did Petrucci. The new boys are being held back a bit for some reason. But I'm sure we'll be raving about them before long.
Petrucci is way too young! He will have a good season or so with Academy before seeing Reserve team action.
Rossi was more than a year older at the time! He was only eligible for our Youth and 18's for one season so naturally was pushed on quicker. Same with Pique.Rossi was only in the academy for a couple of months tops before playing for the reserves. I haven't seen him play of course but if he's as good as Roma are annoyed at losing him then I'd hope for similiar progression.
It's all conjecture at the moment because none of us really know whether Petrucci will play more so in the Academy or Reserves but he will turn 17 in October so he only has 1 or 2 seasons maximum in the Academy. Macheda is only 3 months older and a lot less well regarded as Petrucci who has taken the Italy national youth teams by storm. I think that Davide Petrucci will definitely be pushed up into the Reserves early despite all the striking options we have (some going out on loan). The only reason I could see for holding Petrucci back would be to get him more accustomed to English football at a lower level whereas someone like Macheda already has a season's worth of experience under his belt.Rossi was more than a year older at the time! He was only eligible for our Youth and 18's for one season so naturally was pushed on quicker. Same with Pique.
Petrucci is 16 and has 2/3 years in the 18's yet.
The Roma comment I take witha pinch of salt.....another way of getting more money in compensation from United.
We'll see in due course.
Good post but it should be noted that Macheda was a star performer for Italy u16s when we signed him and did well for the u17s towards the end of last season.Macheda is only 3 months older and a lot less well regarded as Petrucci who has taken the Italy national youth teams by storm
Yeah, I'm a big fan of Macheda. I really think he can do well at United and completely agree with your post in the other thread about a possible long term option if he adopts the United work ethic etc. Not sure why, but Macheda wasn't being picked for the Italy U17s much after the mid-way point in last season. Davide Petrucci has proven himself for the Allievi Nazionali as top goalscorer for the highly talented Roma academy and was top goalscorer for Italy U17s without being an out and out striker - he's certainly got a bigger billing than Federico Macheda but from what we've seen from Macheda last season, he is a special talent and could have a future with us.Good post but it should be noted that Macheda was a star performer for Italy u16s when we signed him and did well for the u17s towards the end of last season.
The Italians are very insular with regards to their young internationals, those playing abroad do tend to get ignored (Rossi was shunned for a long while, up until U21's, when he was back playing for Parma anyway). Although for some reason, Chelsea have a couple of Italians who keep getting called up despite (in the words of a mate of mine who goes to all the Chelsea academy games) being nowhere near Macheda's quality.Yeah, I'm a big fan of Macheda. I really think he can do well at United and completely agree with your post in the other thread about a possible long term option if he adopts the United work ethic etc. Not sure why, but Macheda wasn't being picked for the Italy U17s much after the mid-way point in last season.
Not sure how involved Zola is in the Italian Youth set up at the moment but if I was to hazard a guess I would say it's because of him.Although for some reason, Chelsea have a couple of Italians who keep getting called up despite (in the words of a mate of mine who goes to all the Chelsea academy games) being nowhere near Macheda's quality.
He's quite a big lad too. Good to see him having a good time in the milk cup. We've some potential at that levelYeah, I'm a big fan of Macheda. I really think he can do well at United and completely agree with your post in the other thread about a possible long term option if he adopts the United work ethic etc. Not sure why, but Macheda wasn't being picked for the Italy U17s much after the mid-way point in last season. Davide Petrucci has proven himself for the Allievi Nazionali as top goalscorer for the highly talented Roma academy and was top goalscorer for Italy U17s without being an out and out striker - he's certainly got a bigger billing than Federico Macheda but from what we've seen from Macheda last season, he is a special talent and could have a future with us.