Reasons we can still win the league

[TOD]

OK...i'll start the ball rolling....
1) We had yet to reach top form yet, whearas Arsenal surely can't maintain such form throughout the season.

2) To win the league, you need a stable defence, and we had the 2nd best defensive record in the premiership right now.

3) Once Keane returns, he will be as fit and as fresh as ever.

4) Lady luck had not smiled on UNITED at the moment, well...it will soon change

(Please add on)

 

[dmode]

5) We are the best, eh!

 

[Argiepoo]

6) The team just can't wait to prove all those ABUs wrong!!! <img src="graemlins/keano.gif" border="0" alt="[Keano]" /> <img src="graemlins/keano.gif" border="0" alt="[Keano]" /> <img src="graemlins/keano.gif" border="0" alt="[Keano]" />

 

[kkcbl]

7) The strikers have used up their quota of missed chances for the season & shud be converting them from now on!

 

[ManUinOz]

There are about thirty games left, for fecks sake City could still win the league. Mathematically.

 

[golden_blunder]

Originally posted by ManUinOz:
<strong>There are about thirty games left, </strong><hr></blockquote>

and theres the best reason of all why its not over yet

 

[Gillespie]

Originally posted by TOD:
<strong>OK...i'll start the ball rolling....
1) We had yet to reach top form yet, whearas Arsenal surely can't maintain such form throughout the season.

2) To win the league, you need a stable defence, and we had the 2nd best defensive record in the premiership right now.

3) Once Keane returns, he will be as fit and as fresh as ever.

4) Lady luck had not smiled on UNITED at the moment, well...it will soon change

(Please add on)</strong><hr></blockquote>

What makes you Mancs think that you can play any better than you have done so far?
Top form ?.....will still not be good enough,in my view......face the facts.....both the Arse and the scousers have passed you by.

 

[An Extremely Boring Man]

Originally posted by Gillespie:
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What makes you Mancs think that you can play any better than you have done so far?
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What makes you think we can't play any better?

 

[Davo]

We can certainly play a lot better than we have to date...

 

[An Extremely Boring Man]

Originally posted by Davo:
<strong>We can certainly play a lot better than we have to date...</strong><hr></blockquote>

That's interesting

 

[Davo]

Originally posted by Gillespie:
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What makes you Mancs think that you can play any better than you have done so far?
Top form ?.....will still not be good enough,in my view......face the facts.....both the Arse and the scousers have passed you by.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I agree that we've both passed the Mancs..

I still wouldn't rule them out mind, as they're not a million miles away, and I'd be surprised if you can keep this form up..

 

[An Extremely Boring Man]

Originally posted by Davo:
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I agree that we've both passed the Mancs..

I still wouldn't rule them out mind, as they're not a million miles away, and I'd be surprised if you can keep this form up..</strong><hr></blockquote>

Based on what you've heard?

 

[Davo]

Originally posted by An Extremely Boring Man:
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Based on what you've heard?</strong><hr></blockquote>

What?

 

[Tomo]

Originally posted by Davo:
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I agree that we've both passed the Mancs..

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<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />

 

[Gillespie]

Originally posted by Davo:
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I agree that we've both passed the Mancs..

I still wouldn't rule them out mind, as they're not a million miles away, and I'd be surprised if you can keep this form up..</strong><hr></blockquote>

I agree with you that it would be foolish to rule the Mancs out completely.My own view is that the title will either go to us again or maybe you lot....I just don't see the Mancs doing it,they have the whiff of a once great team in decline.They'll still finish third ,though.I just find it amazing how blind the Mancs are to the failings of their current team and this belief they have that everything will come good again and Man Utd will be back again in their 'rightful' place at the top of the league.It's just wishful thinking and I ,for one,will welcome the enforced humility they will have to show after some more trophy-less years.

 

[Davo]

Originally posted by Gillespie:
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I agree with you that it would be foolish to rule the Mancs out completely.My own view is that the title will either go to us again or maybe you lot....I just don't see the Mancs doing it,they have the whiff of a once great team in decline.They'll still finish third ,though.I just find it amazing how blind the Mancs are to the failings of their current team and this belief they have that everything will come good again and Man Utd will be back again in their 'rightful' place at the top of the league.It's just wishful thinking and I ,for one,will welcome the enforced humility they will have to show after some more trophy-less years.</strong><hr></blockquote>

In fairness it can be hard admitting it to yourself...I didn't realise how bad things were when we fell from grace, probably half due to the fact that I didn't want to believe it.
I've said from the start of the season that the three of us are the only clubs capable of taking the title, and that if I had to call it I'd say it will be you, us then the Mancs in that order...I've seen nothing to date thats made me change my mind.
Anyway, I've had enought of admitting/hearing how feckin good you lot are...what are your main "worries" in regard to potential problems?

 

[Gillespie]

Originally posted by Davo:
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In fairness it can be hard admitting it to yourself...I didn't realise how bad things were when we fell from grace, probably half due to the fact that I didn't want to believe it.
I've said from the start of the season that the three of us are the only clubs capable of taking the title, and that if I had to call it I'd say it will be you, us then the Mancs in that order...I've seen nothing to date thats made me change my mind.
Anyway, I've had enought of admitting/hearing how feckin good you lot are...what are your main "worries" in regard to potential problems?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Problems for us..? They would include

a)Injuries/suspensions to Henry and Vieira
b)Seaman continues his decline or is injured and our back up goalies don't cut it
c)Just plain bad luck or poor ref decisions in key games
d)Loss of form or confidence caused by a to c above

To be honest,we are flying at the moment.If anything,games appear too easy.Now ,however good you are,such brilliance is always difficult to maintain,so I am expecting a temporary dip at some time.Though with Pires still to come back,there is a lot of optimism.The idea we can go a whole season unbeaten,although possible,is very unlikely in my view and most fellow Gooners would say the same.So no arrogance there.(Unlike some other clubs' fans ,I can think off )

 

[TOD]

Although i respect the Gunners for what they had achieve so far, breaking records and all... But mark my words, UNITED will at least push it right to the final few games. OK, i admit that this team is a bit of a decline at the moment, but comes the transfer window, i hope we will splash some cash on players

 

[Davo]

Originally posted by Gillespie:
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Problems for us..? They would include

a)Injuries/suspensions to Henry and Vieira
b)Seaman continues his decline or is injured and our back up goalies don't cut it
c)Just plain bad luck or poor ref decisions in key games
d)Loss of form or confidence caused by a to c above

To be honest,we are flying at the moment.If anything,games appear too easy.Now ,however good you are,such brilliance is always difficult to maintain,so I am expecting a temporary dip at some time.Though with Pires still to come back,there is a lot of optimism.The idea we can go a whole season unbeaten,although possible,is very unlikely in my view and most fellow Gooners would say the same.So no arrogance there.(Unlike some other clubs' fans ,I can think off )</strong><hr></blockquote>

Fair points. Whats your take on Wenger and his mouthing off etc? I find it amusing as it strikes me that a lot of it is to wind Fergie up, and I reckon it works..but he does go overboard at times...

It will be interesting to see how you go about bringing Pires back into the side..

 

[andy27457]

Originally posted by Davo:
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I agree that we've both passed the Mancs..

I still wouldn't rule them out mind, as they're not a million miles away, and I'd be surprised if you can keep this form up..</strong><hr></blockquote>

Sorry Davo, the Arse possibly, but the bindippers, <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />

 

[Davo]

Originally posted by andy27457:
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Sorry Davo, the Arse possibly, but the bindippers, <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

You laugh away mate, the table tells otherwise...

 

[An Extremely Boring Man]

Originally posted by Davo:
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You laugh away mate, the table tells otherwise...</strong><hr></blockquote>

Do you reckon West Ham has been 'overtaken' by all the teams in the Premiership?

 

[andy27457]

Originally posted by Davo:
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You laugh away mate, the table tells otherwise...</strong><hr></blockquote>

And of course, you're European form shows ho <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />

 

[Gillespie]

Originally posted by Davo:
<strong>

Fair points. Whats your take on Wenger and his mouthing off etc? I find it amusing as it strikes me that a lot of it is to wind Fergie up, and I reckon it works..but he does go overboard at times...

It will be interesting to see how you go about bringing Pires back into the side..</strong><hr></blockquote>

To be honest,a lot of 'his mouthing off' is media spin.All he said was that he thought it was possible to go through the season unbeaten...and it is possible.He is just being honest in that he believes in his team and expects them to be succesful.So far,it has worked in that the team are responding positively to his expressions of confidence.

As to mind games.....I don't think so ,I genuinely think he is unconcerned about Ferguson whom, on the other hand, does appear to be rattled by Wenger often resorting to unsubtle attacks on him and his team.

 

[Davo]

Originally posted by An Extremely Boring Man:
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Do you reckon West Ham has been 'overtaken' by all the teams in the Premiership?</strong><hr></blockquote>

I think its easier to pick out the best sides in the league..

We finished above you last season, we're currently above you..

Perhaps, just possibly, we're better than you?

 

[Davo]

Originally posted by andy27457:
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And of course, you're European form shows ho <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

Your European form was better than Arsenal last season..

They're a better side than you by some distance..

 

[Davo]

Originally posted by Gillespie:
<strong>

To be honest,a lot of 'his mouthing off' is media spin.All he said was that he thought it was possible to go through the season unbeaten...and it is possible.He is just being honest in that he believes in his team and expects them to be succesful.So far,it has worked in that the team are responding positively to his expressions of confidence.

As to mind games.....I don't think so ,I genuinely think he is unconcerned about Ferguson whom, on the other hand, does appear to be rattled by Wenger often resorting to unsubtle attacks on him and his team.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I doubt he's particularly concerned by Fergie...I just get the impression that he's winding him up cos he enjoys it..

So much for Adams predicting you to finish third eh?

 

[Gillespie]

Originally posted by Davo:
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It will be interesting to see how you go about bringing Pires back into the side..</strong><hr></blockquote>

There should be enough games for Pires to make a major contribution to the team.
(It's rumoured by the way he may play occasionally in the 'Bergkamp' role off the main striker ,especially in european games when Dennis won't travel and also because there is a limit to the number of games Bergkamp can now play in a season.)Having said that,I'd expect Pires to occupy his usual place,initially ,wide on the left.

 

[Gillespie]

Originally posted by Davo:
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I doubt he's particularly concerned by Fergie...I just get the impression that he's winding him up cos he enjoys it..

So much for Adams predicting you to finish third eh?

</strong><hr></blockquote>
I think you're right...Arsene does seem to enjoy goading poor old Ferguson (that one last year when he said...'everyone thinks they have the prettiest wife at home ' after Ferguson was proclaiming that despite their poor form,Man Utd were still the best team in England,was a classic!)

As for Adams,I'm pretty sure he was having a laugh with the media.

 

[andy27457]

Originally posted by Davo:
<strong>

Your European form was better than Arsenal last season..

They're a better side than you by some distance..</strong><hr></blockquote>

But that's over a season, not 9 games! You see, you're at it again Davo. Too many people are jumping to too many conclusions, too fast. With a quarter of the season gone, I don't think any of us are in a position to say who is better than who. As you say, we'll see who laughs at the end of the season

 

[michael owen's mum]

Originally posted by andy27457:
<strong>

But that's over a season, not 9 games! You see, you're at it again Davo. Too many people are jumping to too many conclusions, too fast. With a quarter of the season gone, I don't think any of us are in a position to say who is better than who. As you say, we'll see who laughs at the end of the season</strong><hr></blockquote>

we did. last season.

and when does "a blip" or perhaps a "temporary spell" stop being that and become the norm?

 

[Norwegian Red]

Hmmmm, a couple of trolls in here, huh?

 

[Davo]

Originally posted by Gillespie:
<strong>
I think you're right...Arsene does seem to enjoy goading poor old Ferguson (that one last year when he said...'everyone thinks they have the prettiest wife at home ' after Ferguson was proclaiming that despite their poor form,Man Utd were still the best team in England,was a classic!)

As for Adams,I'm pretty sure he was having a laugh with the media.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I found the Adams prediction a bit weird, thought that it may have been a bit of "they'll really miss me", but then wouldn't have pictured Adams as being that type.

Ferguson must miss the good old days when his main rivals were managed by the likes of Keegan, attempts to get to the likes of either of our French managers are doomed to failure..

 

[Davo]

Originally posted by andy27457:
<strong>

But that's over a season, not 9 games! You see, you're at it again Davo. Too many people are jumping to too many conclusions, too fast. With a quarter of the season gone, I don't think any of us are in a position to say who is better than who. As you say, we'll see who laughs at the end of the season</strong><hr></blockquote>

I agree thats it early days, but little has changed from last season in terms of the dominance of the league IMO.

At the end of the day its just my opinion as to who is the better team, if you think otherwise, despite the evidence to the contrary than carry on...

 

[Gillespie]

Originally posted by andy27457:
<strong>

But that's over a season, not 9 games! You see, you're at it again Davo. Too many people are jumping to too many conclusions, too fast. With a quarter of the season gone, I don't think any of us are in a position to say who is better than who. As you say, we'll see who laughs at the end of the season</strong><hr></blockquote>

Normally,we regard the league champions as the best team in England and on current form there is no reason to contradict that......don't you agree ??

 

[Gillespie]

Originally posted by Davo:
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I found the Adams prediction a bit weird, thought that it may have been a bit of "they'll really miss me", but then wouldn't have pictured Adams as being that type.

Ferguson must miss the good old days when his main rivals were managed by the likes of Keegan, attempts to get to the likes of either of our French managers are doomed to failure..</strong><hr></blockquote>

Frankly,I think Fergie has lost the plot.....recent purchases have been poor (Diego and Seba (sic!)).His behaviour is becoming even more demented (did you see how he reacted to Niaill Quinn after Keane's sending off?) and I begin to wonder how good a coach he is without McLaren or Kidd ,not very is my assessment.

 

[sebaveron]

Originally posted by Davo:
<strong>

I think its easier to pick out the best sides in the league..

We finished above you last season, we're currently above you..

Perhaps, just possibly, we're better than you?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Somehow just somehow I think that is not true.. The fact that you played like donkeys against Valencia tells me that Liverpool aren't better than United.. Where was your resilience - you didnt have any! Liverpool better than Man Utd
<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />

 

[devilish]

2 seasons ago manutd have won the league with 14 POINTS

Last season with players coming in, bad form, a crippled defence and without an assistant manager we had suffered

What is my point?

Simple

The team had improved greatly and many of our new players had settled down by now. Sir Alex have learned from his mistakes and have done his best to solve them.

The conclusion UNDERESTIMATE THE RED DEVILS AT YOUR OWN PERIL

 

[Davo]

Originally posted by sebaveron:
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Somehow just somehow I think that is not true.. The fact that you played like donkeys against Valencia tells me that Liverpool aren't better than United.. Where was your resilience - you didnt have any! Liverpool better than Man Utd
<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>


So the fact that we lost away to the Spanish Champions, on a ground where no english team has ever scored, makes us worse than yourselves...

Who lost at home to Bolton..

Try harder

 

[michael owen's mum]

Originally posted by sebaveron:
<strong>

Somehow just somehow I think that is not true.. The fact that you played like donkeys against Valencia tells me that Liverpool aren't better than United.. Where was your resilience - you didnt have any! Liverpool better than Man Utd
<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>


flimsy.

the only true guide is the league table.

take last season's final standings or the current one, either way's same result. . .