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Your post is still visible to those who have quoted it fyi
I’m sure those who quoted will do the right thing and remove them.
 

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Grealish is a knob but he’s a great footballer my worry is his attitude more than anything (not work attitude)
Yeah mine too and honestly think that can improve with the role models at the club around him like Marcus & Bruno.

I am not going to lie I do worry about him getting involved with stuff he shouldn't do while on holiday as well.
 

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Plot twist, @BenitoSTARR is actually Grealish, who in turn weirdly follows AZ and Koopemeiners, and posts on redcafe in his spare time.

In all fairness I have to say I agree with you opinion on Grealish, as person, in the thread I've seen. Having actually known people being involved in similar situations, plus footballers getting caught doing something very similar, I found it extremely hard to excuse his behaviour. Wouldn't surprise me if you knew a bit more than the average person on that part of him, based on your opinion.
 

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@BenitoSTARR's claim does jibe with what ITK4 said about Grealish.

Reading the Upamecano news, I just remembered that one of their ITKs wrote that Upamecano will sing a 1 year extension and then be sold... Can't seem to recall which post it was though.

Would be funny if this turns out to be true :)
Like this?

Dayot Upamecano will extend his stay with RB Leipzig until 2022.

Translation:
 

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Mate this is a bit of a nightmare for you, it’s been quoted all over this page.

Plus I think you are giving some people on this board too much credit. I’d be surprised if someone had already run off and spread it.

I wouldn’t worry though, the internet is full of rumours and I doubt this will get back to the source.

Anyway if it’s anyone’s fault it’s the player who mentioned it. And if he’s leaving he’s leaving so I suppose it doesn’t really matter who knows now.
I trust the posters to do the right thing.

So far they have.
Plot twist, @BenitoSTARR is actually Grealish, who in turn weirdly follows AZ and Koopemeiners, and posts on redcafe in his spare time.

In all fairness I have to say I agree with you opinion on Grealish, as person, in the thread I've seen. Having actually known people being involved in similar situations, plus footballers getting caught doing something very similar, I found it extremely hard to excuse his behaviour. Wouldn't surprise me if you knew a bit more than the average person on that part of him, based on your opinion.
Haha definitely am not!
 

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@hungrywing

What did ITK4 say about Grealish?

There is no mention of Grealish in the post on page 1 but he did say this about Van de Beek:

I feel confident that United are in the lead for him now, and that he is likely to join them.

Is this guy claiming we are signing Van de Beek and Grealish?
 
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What did he say?

There is no mention of Grealish in the post on page 1 but he did say this about Van de Beek:

I feel confident that United are in the lead for him now, and that he is likely to join them.

Is this guy claiming we are signing Van de Beek and Grealish?
Pretty sure you're asking what ITK4 said, which was that Grealish to us is done at 60m. He said it in April or March, IIRC. The first post on the page is from late July.

I won't say what @BenitoSTARR said because it's clear (s)he are worried for their friend/relative and or other involved parties.

EDIT: link to where ITK4 says it's done
 

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@hungrywing

What did ITK4 say about Grealish?

There is no mention of Grealish in the post on page 1 but he did say this about Van de Beek:

I feel confident that United are in the lead for him now, and that he is likely to join them.

Is this guy claiming we are signing Van de Beek and Grealish?
Both him and G5 are saying that United would like to sign both but it all comes down to who they can sell. More about bringing down the wage bill.
 

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Pretty sure you're asking what ITK4 said, which was that Grealish to us is done at 60m. He said it in April or March, IIRC. The first post on the page is from late July.

I won't say what @BenitoSTARR said because it's clear (s)he are worried for their friend/relative and or other involved parties.

EDIT: link to where ITK4 says it's done
Hmmm didn't realise that had been said back in April and really makes me think that figure was only if they went down, otherwise surely he would have signed for the club on Monday. I didn't think this transfer related to Pogba staying because when that stuff came out he was looking much more settled at the club alongside Bruno. Mind you having said that looking at the update on May 2 it suggests that Pogba situation would have an effect on this deal too.
 
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They've been saying for about a month now that Sancho's agent fees are a large issue. The latest Delaney (haha) article with the surprisingly low initial fee could be related to that. AKA if the agent only gets a portion of the guaranteed fee and not a portion of the add-ons.

Hmmm didn't realise that had been said back in April and really makes me think that figure was only if they went down, otherwise surely he would have signed for the club on Monday. Personally I don't think this transfer relates to Pogba staying because when that stuff came out he was looking much more settled at the club alongside Bruno.
Bolded part does make sense. And the 60m figure is nicely smack in between the oft-mentioned 80m-if-Villa-stay-up-40m-if-they-go-down amounts.

And it would fit the narrative that Grealish is angry now that Villa aren't honoring the gentlemens' agreement to let him go.
 

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I take r/muppetiers with a pinch of salt but much of the United news on the May 13th post has turned out to be accurate. Sorry I can't post links.
 

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They've been saying for about a month now that Sancho's agent fees are a large issue. The latest Delaney (haha) article with the surprisingly low initial fee could be related to that. AKA if the agent only gets a portion of the guaranteed fee and not a portion of the add-ons.



Bolded part does make sense. And the 60m figure is nicely smack in between the oft-mentioned 80m-if-Villa-stay-up-40m-if-they-go-down amounts.

And it would fit the narrative that Grealish is angry now that Villa aren't honoring the gentlemens' agreement to let him go.
Do you reckon he is genuinely angry about the situation but is just keeping his feelings out of the press and off social media
 

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Hmmm didn't realise that had been said back in April and really makes me think that figure was only if they went down, otherwise surely he would have signed for the club on Monday. Personally I don't think this transfer relates to Pogba staying because when that stuff came out he was looking much more settled at the club alongside Bruno.
Just opinion time now from me but I wouldn’t get tied up on figures if that’s the concern.

Villa are in between a rock and a hard place because they’ve taken 2 of Grealish’s early peak years at a level below where he could be. He’s absolutely done them a favour by staying at the club. At the same time having stayed up they won’t want to one week later sell the player that was a huge part of that.

There isn’t much reason for Villa to rush a sale as they will have been half planning for championship football and half prem until the last kick.

Even taking any “ITK” info to one side it makes no sense for Villa to now keep Grealish unless Grealish wants to stay. I don’t believe he will want to spend another year fighting a relegation battle so then what is more likely. He leaves the club or Villa invest heavily to bolster a more solid campaign?
 

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Do you reckon he is genuinely angry about the situation but is just keeping his feelings out of the press and off social media
That's total speculation but yeah I'd imagine he's pretty upset if the two clubs did agree on a compromise like that only for Villa to now reneg looking for another 20m when their owners are so rich and after he helped keep them up, giving them way more than 20m.
 

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Do you reckon he is genuinely angry about the situation but is just keeping his feelings out of the press and off social media
There nothing to suggest the agreement won’t go ahead so why would he be angry?

Equally any public display of frustration a week after keeping a club you captained up Isn’t going to do you any favours when your character has been called into question.
 

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There nothing to suggest the agreement won’t go ahead so why would he be angry?

Equally any public display of frustration a week after keeping a club you captained up Isn’t going to do you any favours when your character has been called into question.
Very true, so what did you think of his tweet today with his fingers in his ears
 

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If Grealish had assurances that he could leave Villa after this season, after he almost went to Spurs last year then I’d say he has a right to be annoyed by it. Villa pretty much played their ‘one more season’ card last year with him, like we did with Ronaldo in 2008.

I don’t think he’d fancy being double and triple marked every week for another season playing for this fairly ordinary Villa team.
 

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If Grealish had assurances that he could leave Villa after this season, after he almost went to Spurs last year then I’d say he has a right to be annoyed by it. Villa pretty much played their ‘one more season’ card last year with him, like we did with Ronaldo in 2008.

I don’t think he’d fancy being double and triple marked every week for another season playing for this fairly ordinary Villa team.
I guess we will see after he comes back from holiday but hoping it is like the Ronaldo one more year situation in 2008
 

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So one of their ITKS said the new kit launch is the 3rd August but they waited until the club confirmed it.... such bollocks on there, they know feck all. It's a bit like the website football rumours.
 

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So one of their ITKS said the new kit launch is the 3rd August but they waited until the club confirmed it.... such bollocks on there, they know feck all. It's a bit like the website football rumours.
Did you actually think they knew what they were talking about?
 

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Urgh. They have a patreon?!!

That’s quite sick. Lying to the gullible and then taking their money for it.

Can appreciate a bit of a giggle making the crap up and people believing it, but taking their money is disgusting
 

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I’m sure there are actual people out there which are “in the know”. Don’t think they are one of them though :lol:
 

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So one of their ITKS said the new kit launch is the 3rd August but they waited until the club confirmed it.... such bollocks on there, they know feck all. It's a bit like the website football rumours.
No the ITK shared it with the mods several days ago but the mods withheld the info to see if it actually became true.

Also, looks like the ITKs are doubling down that the Jimenez rumors are bs and that Gabriel is also bs. Think they also are saying that Pau Torres is bs. So we will see if this holds up.
 

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:lol:

Very convenient. This ‘withheld the information’ line gets bandied about very frequently over there, it seems!
Again, it all comes down to if you trust the mods as they are the ones that have actually seen any "verification" that these ITKs may actually have reliable info. Think you should take all info with a pinch of salt.
 

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Again, it all comes down to if you trust the mods as they are the ones that have actually seen any "verification" that these ITKs may actually have reliable info. Think you should take all info with a pinch of salt.
But are the mods operating the Patreon?
 

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Do people pay money to get this 'ITK' info? Why? Do they provide some exclusive, behind paywall kinda transfer news to such people?
 

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They release all of the info to everyone, regardless of whether you do the Patreon. The only difference is you get to do a cozy chat with the mods once a month on their discord or some bs like that and also get priority in getting questions answered on their live videos. Basically there is no added value unless you want to make new online friends.
 

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Urgh. They have a patreon?!!

That’s quite sick. Lying to the gullible and then taking their money for it.

Can appreciate a bit of a giggle making the crap up and people believing it, but taking their money is disgusting

Thats the bit that actually annoys me somewhat.
I don't mind if they have a bit of fun etc, but when they actually start a patreon for it, it's going too far.
Well, I say that, people take advantage of whatever, so I guess I'm more annoyed at the people that actually pay for it :lol:
 

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No the ITK shared it with the mods several days ago but the mods withheld the info to see if it actually became true.

Also, looks like the ITKs are doubling down that the Jimenez rumors are bs and that Gabriel is also bs. Think they also are saying that Pau Torres is bs. So we will see if this holds up.
Eh? Why withhold it?
That makes zero sense.

Announce it to the whole forum. If it's true, then interesting, if it isn't call bullshit.

I'm gonna send one of the mods on here some info I've got today. It's absolutely nailed on, but I'll let him share it once it comes true
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