me neither. I don’t even see what Rio did that was wrong
Rio Ferdinand apologises to Phil Jones
- Thread starter MyOnlySolskjaer
- Start date
Ole asked him to apologise
Good on Rio, it takes character to admit you were mistaken.
I can see why Ole got absolutely pissed off as well, he's been in Jones' exact situation (something the Caf seems to forget when they lambast the guy for being injured) and knows exactly what he's going through. No doubt he and Rio had some choice words in private after that little outburst..
Weird how people on here are jumping on this, where was this energy when Pogba was accused of faking his injury?
Ok, this thread is turning into a game of telephone. Starting from an article that took things out of context and made sensational headline out of it, and to things being just thrown around in this thread.
Please everyone listen to Rio himself what he said about Jones. I've linked the time in the podcast when he starts talking about Jones (around17:24)
Thus, not much brilliance in his comment about Jones. He was just being an arse.
"If I was in the squad with someone like that I wouldn’t talk to them.
"They are a waste of time, why would I chat to you and give you any energy, taking that away from my other teammates who are here to play and go into battle for 90 minutes every week."
I forgot people on this forum actually thought this was a thing ffs. Awful stuff from some of these lot.
Come on! Please check the context of those quotes seriously. It was not at all directed at Jones.
It’s not even about the Jones comments. Some United fans seem to dislike Rio, it’s baffling.
Giggs?
He was talking about Jones and people like that, was he not? Players "who are happy to just sit at clubs and not play and just chill", which for him, Jones was one example of. What am I missing here?
I just watched the video and it's not really out of context. The comments didn't necessarily apply specifically to Jones, but he was certainly including Jones in them.
That 'apology' puts paid to the idea that Rio said those things because he was privy to things the average punter isn't.
Not been watching the news for the last 12 months or so?
Pretty obvious where it was. It’s being stored away to shoot pelters at him the second he does get injured or has a few poor games.
Rio mentions he does not know the situation with Jones injury. And I think Steve brings in a point about players who are happy to sit on their contracts without a desire to play even when they are fit. And the above quotes come in when Steve asks Rio what he would do if someone like that was in his team.
Last edited:
Fixed
I’m with Rio on this. Remember watching it, didn’t think anyone said anything out of line. I get Jones has had injury difficulties, I get that he’s a hard worker and a family man. But still doesn’t take away from the fact he’s not competing for a place here.
When we’re talking about deadwood and trimming the bloated squad down, he’s a key name. Injury or no injury, he’s not in the mix.
People should watch the entire video and take it in context rather than a headline that’s been made.
When we’re talking about deadwood and trimming the bloated squad down, he’s a key name. Injury or no injury, he’s not in the mix.
People should watch the entire video and take it in context rather than a headline that’s been made.
They'd been talking about Winston Bogarde (infamous Chelsea layabout) directly beforehand and he had mentioned Jones' injuries, so it didn't seem squarely directed at Jones to me. It was still pretty brutal though, and as much as I like Rio normally I thought he was out of order here.
I think most people just read the headline and missed that Rio was mostly speaking in hypotheticals.
I think Rio was a tad harsh but at the same time he was asking a question about the player that (at that time) hadn’t been answered.
He was questioning if he signed that contract and has sat collecting his pay whilst being fit and therefore questioned his intentions at the club etc.
Now Ole said himself neither the player or the manager himself has elaborated on his situation for a long time, that allows people to draw their own conclusions.
We still don’t know what the latest injury was, if it’s recurring or multiple issues, is it some chronic underlying condition? As far as I can see its still a mystery?
He was questioning if he signed that contract and has sat collecting his pay whilst being fit and therefore questioned his intentions at the club etc.
Now Ole said himself neither the player or the manager himself has elaborated on his situation for a long time, that allows people to draw their own conclusions.
We still don’t know what the latest injury was, if it’s recurring or multiple issues, is it some chronic underlying condition? As far as I can see its still a mystery?
Just goes to show, whilst your running your mouth you have little knowledge of a persons actual situation. Think before you speak.
You can make it up by calling Camavinga
I think Jones should leave regardless, he is taking up space and wages.
Alright. I´ve just read the quotes, which made it look like he was obviously talking about Jones. I understand now that watching the video may soften it a bit.
I get the quotes were taken out of context and I didn't think they were as bad as they were being made out but I'm baffled he didn't know Jones has been injured. What planet is he on?
it's almost a universal thing here on the Caf for all our ex players. Roy Keane, the Nevilles, Giggs (justifiably so), Rooney etc. There's a constant theme where our ex players (some legends) are shat on or failure is wished upon them. It's extremely fecked up.I think Rios initial response is from frustration which many fans can have.
I mean we all say it ourselves, it can take a while for judgement to overcome that cloud.
I mean we all say it ourselves, it can take a while for judgement to overcome that cloud.
I don't think Rio should have to apologise, Jones should be released. If I didn't do my job for 2 years I'd be let go and I wouldn't have years of 70k a week to fall back on.
If he was dealing with some life threatening illness I'd say by all means the club should help him but if he's just got injury after injury then I'm sorry he's on far too much money to just be continuously at the physio and needs to be released until he can prove his fitness to another club.
If he was dealing with some life threatening illness I'd say by all means the club should help him but if he's just got injury after injury then I'm sorry he's on far too much money to just be continuously at the physio and needs to be released until he can prove his fitness to another club.
Last edited:
Qué Pas?
Quite funny that so many people are pretending to be outraged by this. I see our fans frequently trash our players and manager, sometimes very personally. Jones has had so much stick from our own lot, to the point he said he wouldn't have a testimonial because noone would turn up.
That's nothing to do with Rio, that's our own fan base making him feel like that. Sure, Rio may have gone a bit hard on him but it's nothing compared to what our own say pretty much every week about this player or that. Solskjaer as well. So to see so many people giving Rio stick, seems like at least some of those people are massive hypocrites. This is what happens when you ride the wave of public opinion.
That's nothing to do with Rio, that's our own fan base making him feel like that. Sure, Rio may have gone a bit hard on him but it's nothing compared to what our own say pretty much every week about this player or that. Solskjaer as well. So to see so many people giving Rio stick, seems like at least some of those people are massive hypocrites. This is what happens when you ride the wave of public opinion.
What has he said about Rio?
Don’t worry about it bro, you are a Utd legend and one of the main reasons I started supporting Utd. You don’t need to apologize to anyone.
oh, the irony here!
I know, my total amateur football career is interrupted first by knee injury few years ago, and last year by calf rupture, I felt like shit, but decided I won't play football anymore after calf injury because recovery was pain in the ass. And I seriously like playing football. Jones had so many injury problems that he had to think about doing something different with his life, he is not the first one with these problems. Even changing the level of competition would be good enough if it's just about love of football, I am sure his body is good enough to avoid injuries on lower level.