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Martial has already proven that he is a better player than Lukaku. If he was given the chances Lukaku was given by Jose Martial can easily score 25 goals per season. Lukaku has nothing that Martial cannot do and do it better.Based on the fact that he is by far our most proven striker and he has been a scoring machine in the PL for years. Martial still has plenty to prove in this league to even be considered anywhere close to Lukaku.
Rooney was great at 25, Lukaku though....If you watched his early goals at WBA and when he moved to Everton you notice how his body has changed. He was lean, and thus was fast and aggressive. The more he grows up the more he becomes more and more bulky till he reaches his state now.
I honestly think we're up to a new Rooney case here. He'll be finished by 29-30.
And the fact that he left Raiola might be a factor too. Its weird how close they were and now we barely see them together.I get the impression he and Pogba arnt close any more. I’ve noticed they get frustrated with each other during games. Might have something to do with Lukaku locality to Jose. Or perhaps pogba being frustrating with his lack of movement but over use of pointing and directing. His comments of wanting better players as if he’s prime RVN would put me off him if I was his teammate.
It looks to me like Lukaku pulled away from Pogba, the moment Mourinho fell out with Pogba. For whatever reason, he decided he wanted to stay in the manager's favour, so if that meant distancing himself from Pogba then so be it.And the fact that he left Raiola might be a factor too. Its weird how close they were and now we barely see them together.
Lukaku's got a new boot sponsor :
Well I’m basing it on going the game and watching lukaku for 18 months and martial 3 years, give martial the amount of opportunities lukaku has had up front and he would of bettered every goal scoring record lukakau has had with us, stats would prove that. Ones a great footballer the other just a tap in merchant, what is lukaku better at than martial?Based on the fact that he is by far our most proven striker and he has been a scoring machine in the PL for years. Martial still has plenty to prove in this league to even be considered anywhere close to Lukaku.
Lukaku isn't nor does he play as a target man.They all were not their main target men or you can say non of the teams relied on these players to provide the bulk of the goals or deliver the goals at critical moments. The problem with Lukaku is that he plays for both united and Belgium as their main target man. And as a target man he is unreliable or i must say does not have the skill set required at this level.
I wonder who would buy him at anywhere close what we paid for him?I hope we buy a striker in jan and ship him out now. Maybe a cb too if possible. The rest of the team can have time to work things out til summer and the new manager.
Yeah pogba was angry with him for not moving in a few games. I don't see any room for him in this team tbh. If he's ready to stay on the bench and be used as squad player I don't know.I get the impression he and Pogba arnt close any more. I’ve noticed they get frustrated with each other during games. Might have something to do with Lukaku loyalty to Jose. Or perhaps Pogba being frustrating with his lack of movement but over use of pointing and directing. His comments of wanting better players as if he’s prime RVN would put me off him if I was his teammate.
Probably no one in Europe and he's too young to go anywhere else. If we can get 40-50m we've done alright I think.I wonder who would buy him at anywhere close what we paid for him?
I agree the sooner he is shipped out he better it will be for all everyone concerned
Around the 40/50/60 goal marks, that Lukaku was incredible. Just seemed so much better on the ball. Quicker, like you said. Completely different players - someone who doesn't watch football very much wouldn't think that's the same player.For anyone who wanted to watch how his body changed to worse over the last years compared to him earlier. It's like a different striker back then, fast and aggressive. Can't see how he'll lose all this weight now tbh.
The quality of his finishing isn't really his issue, it's actually getting a shot that has been his issue this year (in goal scoring terms) and that's because he's not getting the ball in areas he can do that because he's being asked to play in a way that's alien to him, just like everyone else has. He's looked like dogshit as a result.Lukaku will look like twice the player in a setup like yesterday, certain of it, it’s exactly the sort of football he thrives on. Hopefully his finishing improves.
“Pressing” is one of the easiest skills in football. You are just required to run around which a fit Lukaku can absolutely do.In place of who.
Of course, he still has the ability to score goals but that's not going to guarantee him anything. The most important player in a team that likes to press is the striker.
It's not hard to imagine, really:
Martial bursts forward, passes to Lukaku. The ball bounces off Lukaku and Cardiff clear their lines easily. Lukaku proceeds to point in front of himself.
See, it was easy.
He bulked up for the World Cup, why would Jose ask him to do that?Can people stop freaking out? Mourinho was trying to turn him into Drogba, hence the bulk. As for not scoring goals, don't think we we're doing that anyways under Mourinho. He's much more talented than Lingard, Rashford so I imagine he'll be just fine with Solskjaer
It is actually pretty easy to slim down and lose muscle mass. It will take a small adjustment period but he's already said he's trying to slim down. Once he does, he can be lethal on that right side with Sanchez playing false 9 up the middle.
He’ll be shipped off to West Ham in the summer after next season for 45mill.I wonder who would buy him at anywhere close what we paid for him?
I agree the sooner he is shipped out he better it will be for all everyone concerned
He clearly said he bulked up for world cup. Imagine asking people to stop freaking out then going on to make a false assumption.Can people stop freaking out? Mourinho was trying to turn him into Drogba, hence the bulk. As for not scoring goals, don't think we we're doing that anyways under Mourinho. He's much more talented than Lingard, Rashford so I imagine he'll be just fine with Solskjaer
It is actually pretty easy to slim down and lose muscle mass. It will take a small adjustment period but he's already said he's trying to slim down. Once he does, he can be lethal on that right side with Sanchez playing false 9 up the middle.
Exactly. Drogba was big, but quite lean. Lukaku does indeed look like a rugby player these rather than a footballer. Will be very interesting to see if Rom fits in our fluid attacking play or looks out of place.He clearly said he bulked up for world cup. Imagine asking people to stop freaking out then going on to make a false assumption.
And Drogba wasn't that bulky btw. He was lean too.
Seriously - a guy who scored 95 goals in 5 seasons for WBA and Everton should be shipped out based on the last 12 months with Mourinho ? Give him 6 months with OGS and if there is no improvement, then we can talk.Lukaku doesn’t have any place in the type of performance we seen on Saturday. Hopefully OGS makes possibly one of the most vital calls in his few months here and ships this guy out.
I don’t think any of his critics will deny that Lukaku, if provided good service, will get you goals. We all knew that when we signed him. The issue for me over the past few months, is that when the team is playing shite he’s not going to be a striker to pull something out of the bag for us. That’s a significant issue for any Manchester United striker. I’m also not sure why with all our other attacking talent, we’d need to play to his strengths. Martial can score many goals, as can Rashford, as can Sánchez if he gets back to his best. Why exactly do we need to put so much effort into putting the ball on a plate for Romelu Lukaku? We’re not Everton ffs.Seriously - a guy who scored 95 goals in 5 seasons for WBA and Everton should be shipped out based on the last 12 months with Mourinho ? Give him 6 months with OGS and if there is no improvement, then we can talk.
I have a feeling Lukaku will come back to Life again now that the rest of the team performs.
No - we are not Everton. We should create a hell of a lot more chances - and if Lukaku could score 20+ for Everton, we should provide him with enough chances to at least do the same for us.I don’t think any of his critics will deny that Lukaku, if provided good service, will get you goals. We all knew that when we signed him. The issue for me over the past few months, is that when the team is playing shite he’s not going to be a striker to pull something out of the bag for us. That’s a significant issue for any Manchester United striker. I’m also not sure why with all our other attacking talent, we’d need to play to his strengths. Martial can score many goals, as can Rashford, as can Sánchez if he gets back to his best. Why exactly do we need to put so much effort into putting the ball on a plate for Romelu Lukaku? We’re not Everton ffs.
Form and the right system. If we're gonna play quick passing and expansive football, he just won't fit us or score 25 goals.In form he’s a 25+ goal striker, let’s see if he’s still got that ability.
The biggest club in the world imo shouldn’t have a striker that we constantly need to create chances for as if he’s our only source. That buildup play from Martial that led to his goal on Saturday is something that you would never see from Lukaku. Rashford free kick is also something you would never see in a million years from this guy. He’s not good enough.No - we are not Everton. We should create a hell of a lot more chances - and if Lukaku could score 20+ for Everton, we should provide him with enough chances to at least do the same for us.
He has had an impressive start to his Prem career and has suffered at United due to being utilised as a target man, which he was not suited to.Seriously - a guy who scored 95 goals in 5 seasons for WBA and Everton should be shipped out based on the last 12 months with Mourinho ? Give him 6 months with OGS and if there is no improvement, then we can talk.
I have a feeling Lukaku will come back to Life again now that the rest of the team performs.