Ron Vlaar

Nate Dogg said:
If we sell Evans and loan out McNair then Vlaar would be a good squad player.
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No he wouldn't as he can't stay fit enough. If we're going to bring in a limited player as back up then the absolute minimum requirement is that they're not injury prone.

Vlaar would be a waste of time, effort, wages and space.
 
sullydnl said:
No he wouldn't as he can't stay fit enough. If we're going to bring in a limited player as back up then the absolute minimum requirement is that they're not injury prone.

Vlaar would be a waste of time, effort, wages and space.
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To be fair that was only this year when that happened. Previously he hardly had been injured.

When I made this thread I think it would have been a good signing (excluding the hindsight of knowing his injury record this year). Now though, regardless of injury, I still wouldn't want him signed as we need quality there rather than quantity.
 
rpitroda said:
To be fair that was only this year when that happened. Previously he hardly had been injured.

When I made this thread I think it would have been a good signing (excluding the hindsight of knowing his injury record this year). Now though, regardless of injury, I still wouldn't want him signed as we need quality there rather than quantity.
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That really isn't true. Villa fans have been on about him being injury prone for a while, especially with this recurring (and I heard degenerative?) calf problem that has been hindering him for at least the last two years. Even in the seasons where he's played a lot of games he's still carried niggling problems that have stopped them from building a settled back four.

Beyond that he had a nightmare run of injuries when he was younger too, breaking a bone bone in foot, then doing his cruciate, then getting a bacterial infection, then damaging his medial ligament, then doing the same cruciate again. Add in his advancing age and he would have been a poor signing at any point imo.
 
sullydnl said:
That really isn't true. Villa fans have been on about him being injury prone for a while, especially with this recurring (and I heard degenerative?) calf problem that has been hindering him for at least the last two years. Even in the seasons where he's played a lot of games he's still carried niggling problems that have stopped them from building a settled back four.

Beyond that he had a nightmare run of injuries when he was younger too, breaking a bone bone in foot, then doing his cruciate, then getting a bacterial infection, then damaging his medial ligament, then doing the same cruciate again. Add in his advancing age and he would have been a poor signing at any point imo.
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Your in your right to have your opinions but your "injury prone" comment is just wrong. He hasn't missed many games bar this year. A quick google search would even tell you that. "niggling problems" while playing is highly ambiguous and judgemental and frankly his performances previously hadn't shown signs of that.

Anyway, this is a fruitless debate.
 
rpitroda said:
Your in your right to have your opinions but your "injury prone" comment is just wrong. He hasn't missed many games bar this year. A quick google search would even tell you that. "niggling problems" while playing is highly ambiguous and judgemental and frankly his performances previously hadn't shown signs of that.

Anyway, this is a fruitless debate.
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Only going by what the Villa fans who watch him more than I do were saying at the start of the season and it seems like they've since been proven right.

But yeah, bit pointless given that right now he is very definitely too injury prone and not really what we need anyway.
 
Villa fans I know were singing his praises last season
Brophs said:
Given how disinterested people are in international football, I think it's amazing how PL fans have been drawn in by a few good games at the WC. He's bang average and his performances since he arrived to England have proven that. Hoping he'll be able to permanently raise his game to a level he hasn't come close to for years, on the basis of a few good international performances, is beyond optimism, IMO.
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When I was in uni last year I had a few Villa mates who couldn't sing his praises enough and claimed they would have surely gone down without him. This was obviously before the world cup too.I'm inclined to believe their testament which goes against your 'proof' of bang averageness. Still not saying we should go for him mind. He's definitely not a great player on the ball and also injury prone. Solid defensively though.
 
justboy68 said:
Villa fans I know were singing his praises last season

When I was in uni last year I had a few Villa mates who couldn't sing his praises enough and claimed they would have surely gone down without him. This was obviously before the world cup too.I'm inclined to believe their testament which goes against your 'proof' of bang averageness. Still not saying we should go for him mind. He's definitely not a great player on the ball and also injury prone. Solid defensively though.
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I won't lie. That's tough to hear.
 
justboy68 said:
Villa fans I know were singing his praises last season

When I was in uni last year I had a few Villa mates who couldn't sing his praises enough and claimed they would have surely gone down without him. This was obviously before the world cup too.I'm inclined to believe their testament which goes against your 'proof' of bang averageness. Still not saying we should go for him mind. He's definitely not a great player on the ball and also injury prone. Solid defensively though.
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I have a soft spot for Villa and watch most of their matches and their fans are right he was fantastic for them and carried the team on his back at times which was remarkable considering who he was playing alongside. He definitely isn't bang average and if he was younger he'd be a good buy but alas he isn't younger.
 
Dodging this bullet was always the correct thing to do. It was an awful idea from the outset.

Smalling, Jones and Rojo are all better and even then we look like we're going to bring in a defender considered better to round out our centre half quartet.
 
I played with the Evans for Vlaar idea, by way of him being content to back up Jones & Smalling - it's only one game but i've now concluded,

NO!
 
I doubt he was ever a serious consideration. He just got linked because he was Dutch, and the link got stretched out more than the rest of the Dutch squad because of our need for a CB.
 
He is a very good pl defender and probably could do a bit better than this current villa side. Although I think he should stay with them.

But he is not too 4 material. Jones and Smalling are both better IMO
 
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