We sometimes forget, because of the insane weekly pay, but there is a players Union! To just not pay him would be a breach of contract and the Union and his lawyers would be all over it and he can afford good lawyers!Just dont play him, simple. Tell him that, he wont have any leverege so….
I said play, not pay.We sometimes forget, because of the insane weekly pay, but there is a players Union! To just not pay him would be a breach of contract and the Union and his lawyers would be all over it and he can afford good lawyers!
However, players can be fined for breaches of discipline, I think 2 weeks wages max. so with the reduction for none CL qualification lets guess at £700,000 every 2 weeks for Ronaldo. Well I can think of three things* he has done wrong straight away so that takes us to mid-September and I bet there will be more. He needs to be held accountable.
*i) left pre-season early on Sunday.
ii) went to Portugal unauthorised last season, missed Liverpool game (or was it the City one, it was a biggy)
iii) knocked a phone out of a kids hands, walking off at the end of a game - major show of petulance. Don't know what happened with that, bet the kid got a new phone and then some! who paid, Ronaldo or the club?
What bothers me about this whole thing is something someone said a few days ago (I forget who or I'd quote them) - that Ronaldo will most likely stay at the club, because our numerous sponsors (shirt sponsors, noodle suppliers etc.) will want him to.
I think this would be a big mistake, he is toxic and should be forced out via multiple club fines if he wont put his hand in his pocket and buy out his own contract. I fear not though because for 20 years now Man Utd. has been a money making machine first, a football club second and even though he will cause so much trouble on and off the pitch the accountants and all the companies tied in with the club will still want him here. ETH has a massive battle on his hands, if Ronaldo goes it will tell me he has won and has a chance at United, if Ronaldo stays it will tell me the opposite: player power and the financial people will have won and I would guess ETH will have 18 months max. in the job.
Oh gosh, yes you did, I feel a right fool now!I said play, not pay.
No worries man, felt sorry for the time you took to write it down so well. But we agree, pay him, but dont playOh gosh, yes you did, I feel a right fool now!
By-the-way, I agree - he shouldn't play, I've actually said elsewhere he shouldn't even be on the bench this weekend, because of what happened last Sunday and the fact he's had basically no pre-season. I will be so interested in the team announcement on Sunday.
You make a very good point. Even though he scores many goals, the overall tally is lower.When Juventus added Ronaldo to their team in 2018 they went from a 87-goal season to a 70 goal season, when he came to United we went from 73 goals to 57. So there's also a solid relationship between "add Ronaldo to your team" and "don't score as many goals".
If he ends up our best player this season then I feel confident in saying it'll be another disastrous seasonYou make a very good point. Even though he scores many goals, the overall tally is lower.
I still believe that we need CR7 in our team, given how poor it is. He will most likely be our best outfield player this season, as he was last season.
Did Man Utd suddenly become a charity?Exactly.
I especially like what ETH explained, simple and clear, the plan and roadmap,
1. Construct the team and only add new players who are the right ones; if impossible to find, develop by ourselves
2. Has a good concept
3. Grow and develop as a team (playing and management) with togetherness
The Juventus data point is misleading. Since Juventus won the Serie A title in 11/12 up until Ronaldo's arrival, they averaged 75.5 goals in Serie A, with a standard deviation of 6. In the three seasons that Ronaldo was at the club, they averaged 74.3 goals with a standard deviation of 3.8, basically the same number. The 86 goals in the season before he joined were a huge outlier. According to FBREF, the xG for the 86 and 70 goal seasons was basically the same (58-59 xG); that would be good evidence that the 86 goals were just chance.When Juventus added Ronaldo to their team in 2018 they went from a 87-goal season to a 70 goal season, when he came to United we went from 73 goals to 57. So there's also a solid relationship between "add Ronaldo to your team" and "don't score as many goals".
Because he is 80m and the owners wont write him offSeems to me, like CR7 wasn't the reason that united sucked last season? could it be? United needs to buy class players, get rid of the dalot's and mctominays. Why is Maguirre playing ahead of Varane? One guy won everything with real madrid and france and the other one is an english man. Can't wrap my mind around it, it's sad to see a club like united be average for so long now, get yo asses out of the mud!
I don't understand it either, but I respect other's view on the subject. It's a shame everyone is focused on this guy while deadwood is rotting around him.How on earth can you criticise this guy for wanting to leave this shambles of a club? Of course he feels like he's just wasting some of the final seasons in his career.
It is more like the media caused it around. He privately told the club to let him go if someone bid for him and he did it early in the summer. He has been quiet on it in public.I reckon we'd let him go without much of a fight if anyone actually wanted him.
Mental that he caused such a ruckus before figuring out whether or not he even had any suitors. Absolute eejit.
From Jonathan Wilson at the Guardian.