simplyared
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I can't see it happening tbf. Think his managerial days are over and doubt such a big club as Celtic would take the risk. Love to see it happen though!
I mean he got an endorsement from Big John Hartson... what more does one need?!Is this based on something? Or you're just throwing it out there? I know he's on the bookies list, anything more?
What about Haaland's cousin?That's them out of the Haaland race then.
Nothing concrete except he's 3rd favourite at 4-1 at the bookies. Worth a discussion at least!Is this based on something? Or you're just throwing it out there? I know he's on the bookies list, anything more?
Yes I would say so. Obviously you think otherwise so tell me why they are not.Celtic are a big club?
Historically, yes. Even financially that used to be the case. In the 80's and very early 90's (before PL was introduced and TV rights changed the financial landscape), Rangers and Celtic were breaking transfer records, making some of the highest revenue in Britain and stockpiling very good teams.Celtic are a big club?
If Ole is good enough for United why not Keane for Celtic?I have no idea why Celtic would opt for Keane. Are there no talented young managers they don't know are average and carrying baggage?
Even if Keane was a great tactician he would be a terrible man manager. Captaining a side and managing it are completely different things.If Ole is good enough for United why not Keane for Celtic?
There's so many reasons to answer that question -If Ole is good enough for United why not Keane for Celtic?
Yeah I was being sarcastic sorry bud. I have an irrational dislike for Scottish Football.Historically, yes. Even financially that used to be the case. In the 80's and very early 90's (before PL was introduced and TV rights changed the financial landscape), Rangers and Celtic were breaking transfer records, making some of the highest revenue in Britain and stockpiling very good teams.
Keane hasn’t been out of work for years , it’s been under 2 years. Only a few months longer than Oles spell between leaving Cardiff and rejoining Molde.There's so many reasons to answer that question -
1. Mike Phelan is probably the main reason Ole has done well at a big club. Having Fergie's right hand man to guide and advise Ole with tactics, transfers, player management has been invaluable to Ole.
2. Ole has the right character for the modern game. He never throws his players under a bus. Knows how to manage the ego's of mentally fragile modern players. Keane is old-school like Jose Mourinho, rules by fear, and those kinds of managers are a dying breed. You could argue modern footballers don't react as well to old-school methods. Even Fergie said he had to move with the times in terms of man-managment.
3. Ole is obviously passionate about being a manager, and has a strong pedigree in developing youth. He started out by winning the FA youth Cup at Man Utd, and since then has never been out of work as a manager, despite taking on jobs in the football wilderness. That's a great contrast to Keane who has been out of work for years, and in two of his last jobs he has walked out prematurely once the going got tough, at both Norwich and Ipswitch, to suggest he can't handle the pressure cooker when the shit hits the fan. But Ole seems to have that ability that best managers have to be able to ride out the storm and not crack under the pressure, when the team is on a bad run of form.
If your going to go to that much effort at least double check what your typing is accurate.There's so many reasons to answer that question -
1. Mike Phelan is probably the main reason Ole has done well at a big club. Having Fergie's right hand man to guide and advise Ole with tactics, transfers, player management has been invaluable to Ole.
2. Ole has the right character for the modern game. He never throws his players under a bus. Knows how to manage the ego's of mentally fragile modern players. Keane is old-school like Jose Mourinho, rules by fear, and those kinds of managers are a dying breed. You could argue modern footballers don't react as well to old-school methods. Even Fergie said he had to move with the times in terms of man-managment.
3. Ole is obviously passionate about being a manager, and has a strong pedigree in developing youth. He started out by winning the FA youth Cup at Man Utd, and since then has never been out of work as a manager, despite taking on jobs in the football wilderness. That's a great contrast to Keane who has been out of work for years, and in two of his last jobs he has walked out prematurely once the going got tough, at both Norwich and Ipswitch, to suggest he can't handle the pressure cooker when the shit hits the fan. But Ole seems to have that ability that best managers have to be able to ride out the storm and not crack under the pressure, when the team is on a bad run of form.
I'd obviously be referring to being a head manager and not a no.2. How many years has it been since Keane was a No. 1 seem as you have such a sharp memory?Keane hasn’t been out of work for years , it’s been under 2 years. Only a few months longer than Oles spell between leaving Cardiff and rejoining Molde.
Ole never won the FA youth Cup. He’s never even coached in it.
Keane never worked for Norwich.
Sorry very poor Internet connection here. Keeps dropping. And I think anyone who knows anything about football will see past the simple mistakes I made. Ole was reserve manager until November 2010, so played a major part in that FA youth Cup win, and then worked under Lamvart at Villa, Lambart had been at Norwich shortly before then.If your going to go to that much effort at least double check what your typing is accurate.
Sorry very poor Internet connection here. Keeps dropping. And I think anyone who knows anything about football will see past the simple mistakes I made. Ole was reserve manager until November 2010, so played a major part in that FA youth Cup win, and then worked under Lamvart at Villa, Lambart had been at Norwich shortly before then.
That's his job.Don't see it happening, think he probably prefers the punditry nowadays.
I agree. I think they'd be getting a Neil Lennon clone - a hot-headed tactical dinosaur.Aye, having watched Keane as No.2 with Martin and the stone age football with Ireland, I do feel he is detached from modern football. Not all reports are 100% accurate but you would have to assume the stories of his actions towards certain players have an element of truth.
He has old school values and whether or not he could adapt to being a number 1 at a club can only really be seen if he does it.
The problem with Celtic is, you are either first or nowhere, it's a hiding to nothing. Win the league and cups and it's not really a big deal, have any sort of bad patch and you are out on your ear.
I think so too, I'd love to see him go on and have success, but it looks like his time is gone.I agree. I think they'd be getting a Neil Lennon clone - a hot-headed tactical dinosaur.
Under Rodgers there was a lot of excitement, a club moving forward with a modern thinking attacking coach. Appointing Lennon again made no sense at all.
I think Keane is finished as a manager unless he spent a couple of seasons working as a no.2 under a Naglesmann/Marco Rose/Hassenhuttle/Rodgers etc
Yeah, I think he'd do better with a top team in that respect. I wonder how Guardiola would fare with a mediocre-to-poor side.His initial work with Sunderland was phenomenal - going from relegation places to promotion and then securing PL survival the next season is about as good as it gets. Then, as one can imagine with Keane as coach, he just wore down his players. I can't see how he'd do well when his standards are probably higher than 99% of the footballers he'd work with.
Martin O Neill#s achievements were a bit better than keeping some pony up in 17th each season.They'd be mad to appoint him. He's done nothing of note as a manager in the game.
If Keane is serious about returning to management, he'd need to work as a no. 2 under a modern thinking coach for a couple of seasons, perhaps working under Eddie Howe if he got the Celtic gig.
Working under Martin O'Neill as a no. 2 might have taught him a thing or two as to how to keep a club like Burnley or West Brow from getting relegated, but that's as far as Keane's knowledge as a manager would go in this moment in time.
True but his methods were suited to the Premier league of those times. In today's game his methods would be completely outdated unless he was at a Burnley or a West Brom and fighting relegation.Martin O Neill#s achievements were a bit better than keeping some pony up in 17th each season.
League cup win for Leicester, and another final, Uefa cup final with Celtic (along with turning over the Rangers dominance when moving there).
Kept Villa 5th in the table 3 years in a row, that people seem to criminally underrate despite Villa not being within millions of miles of it since.