Rugby - Munster = Cheating bastards

Dans

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I don't normally concern myself with Rugby matters but I've just read this story which paints the Irish in a bad light so I thought I'd post it ;)

<a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/2681861.stm" target="_blank">Cheats</a>
 

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if gloucster were retarded enough to leave their gameplan in a taxi they deserved to be hammered
 

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Honest to fcuk, some people will believe any sort of rubbish..........

That win will go down as one of the great sporting achievements of the year, thought the beeb were above such sour grapes shite.... guess not

Want to talk about rugby cheats talk about Neil Back........
 

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Originally posted by ted:
<strong>if gloucster were retarded enough to leave their gameplan in a taxi they deserved to be hammered</strong><hr></blockquote>

It's hardly retarded is it? Forgetful, careless, unfortunate maybe, but not retarded. Kin cheats.
 

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Originally posted by Dans:
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It's hardly retarded is it? Forgetful, careless, unfortunate maybe, but not retarded. Kin cheats.</strong><hr></blockquote>

It is retarted, how can it be cheating? If the opposition are going to be careless enough to leave sensitive things like that lying around
its proper order that they get punished.
 

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Originally posted by Murt:
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It is retarted, how can it be cheating? If the opposition are going to be careless enough to leave sensitive things like that lying around
its proper order that they get punished.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Cheats.
 

Dans

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Originally posted by Murt:
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It is retarted, how can it be cheating? If the opposition are going to be careless enough to leave sensitive things like that lying around
its proper order that they get punished.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Now had it been the other way around and Munster had left their gameplan in a cab and Gloucester had got a hold of it and used it and CHEATED, it would have been an outrage wouldn't it Murt? ;)
 

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Originally posted by Dans:
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Now had it been the other way around and Munster had left their gameplan in a cab and Gloucester had got a hold of it and used it and CHEATED, it would have been an outrage wouldn't it Murt? ;) </strong><hr></blockquote>

No, it would have been all laughs at the irish thickos leaving their game plan in a taxi,
some english gobshite fuched up and despite their not being a rule in the world against it its cheating <img src="graemlins/houllier.gif" border="0" alt="[Houllier]" /> so typical english to go bitter when they looses, like in 88 when we beat youse in Germany. The BBC commentators claiming that they were beaten by English men :rolleyes:


Its like over hearing someone instructing a tactical change from the bench.
If Fergie shouted out that we were suddenly to push up more and the wingers were to switch would it be cheating of the opposition manager to tie down his anchor man .
 

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I hate the way the English has laballed this man a Cabbie.

Listen here wankers we use the work Taxi driver and don't use the cockney twatting fecking word cabbie.

And fair play to him, and if any English wanker wants to talk about cheating speak to Leicester and Neil Back.
 

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Originally posted by Dans:
<strong>I don't normally concern myself with Rugby matters but I've just read this story which paints the Irish in a bad light so I thought I'd post it ;)

<a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/2681861.stm" target="_blank">Cheats</a></strong><hr></blockquote>

Gloucesters game plan was pretty simple to work out for Christ sake. Do not lose by 27 points or more and four or more tries. They had the opportunity to force Munster to have to score twice in the last 10 mins but Mercier took a quick tap. They didn't know themselves what they had to do so how could they have put it on papaer efore the game?

<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />
 

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Read this - written in an English Paper to boot.


So what the hell is it with this Munster "X factor"? Ronan O'Gara, the calm at the centre of their storming Heineken Cup performance, could not say. "The X factor, I don't know, but it is typical of us to perform best when we have been criticised and our backs are to the wall," the fly-half said. Maybe it is the snarling role of the underdog that brings the best out of them. Certainly they gave Gloucester, the English champions-elect and mongrel kings of the Zurich Premiership scene, a mauling. The Cherry and Whites are renowned scrappers but the word on the street in the days leading up to the game in Limerick was that this was a pedigree team from across the sea. Simmering antagonism brings you somewhere near to the inspirational heart of Munster. They don't like Leinster - the doctors of Dublin opposed to the dockers of Munster - and they are none too wild about the English. Gloucester walked into more than a rugby game and they were not ready for the onslaught. By full time the mongrels were more like poodles, ripped to pieces by a set of more than averagely aggressive pit bulls.

But this X factor is too intangible to nail down with any confidence. It is easier to say what it is not. It is certainly not something that money can buy and that is important. There are lessons to be learned for clubs. Jim Williams apart, this was a no-nonsense, local team. With a side made up of men of Cork and Limerick, who have grown up in the province and are not just idols but also mates of the fanatical supporters, there is total empathy between the fans and players. It is little to do with branding either, or if it is branding it is a raw and elemental type that faithfully represents the province and not some marketing man's clever plan.

There is no wannabe Radio One disc jockey slurring his words as he
announces: "Let's hear it for the whoever." In Munster, the pre-match pumping up of the crowd is a man with a microphone singing: 'Stand up and fight like a man', from the opera Carmen. Let the stamping begin. It is stirring stuff but nothing compared to the entrance of the team, roared on to the pitch with a sound like a crack of thunder.

The Gloucester team were broken on the pitch and taught a rare old lesson on the terraces, a fact their supporters were generous enough to acknowledge as they drank deep into their nightmare night. Thomond Park is a special place. The atmosphere could peal the paint from the stands, if there was any paint. But the secret lies in the terracing. Tightly packed, both sets of fans indulged in a rip- roaring tribalism. It is a million miles from where many of the English clubs are heading; towards all-seat stadiums with lots of light entertainment to make for a good family day out. Thomond Park grants little concession to the nuclear family. It belongs to a bygone age, before the American and Australian razzmatazz that is perceived to be entertainment. This isn't about cheerleaders and titillation, it is pure passion.

The word "entertainment" does the
occasion no justice. And the harder the edge, the fairer the attitude of the supporters. While our sport moves towards the family-friendly stadium, crowds are slowly emulating their football counterparts and expending as much effort booing opponents as cheering on their own men. David Sole, the Lions prop who was commentating on the Parker Pen Challenge Cup tie between Wasps and Stade Franais eight days ago, felt that whistling at kickers was part of the professional game. But the question has to be
raised: why must rugby emulate a game that has been scarred by thuggery over the years. If the roars that greeted scores at Thomond Park were something, the silence that greeted the kickers of both teams was something else again. Antagonism might fuel the passion but it is controlled and in proportion and impeccable manners reign. Fewer families, but more rugby people ingrained with an understanding and a respect. Every club in England should aspire to match the attitude of the Limerick crowd.

And on the day there was plenty to learn on the pitch as well. "A lot of players learned a lot about themselves today," said Nigel Melville, Gloucester's director of rugby. The lessons were grim ones. Some of their players are going to have to wrestle with their egos. They could start by watching the Munster men at their best: heart and soul, heart and soul.
 

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superb. for once the english give us a bit of credit for something. i was in thomond - i dont think il ever see another day like that.