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The Serbian president just gave a massive FU to a bunch of his pro-Putin countrymen there.
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I think time is more critical for UKR than Russia. This supposed UAF offensive in the spring or whenever that happens will probably have an impact on how this war will go, obviously. If they can kick the Russians out of a lot of areas in the east, it will look good for UAF. Otherwise, it would probably not end well for UKR in terms of supplies, manpower, and, of course, economy. People keep talking about how Russian industries are shrinking while forgetting that the UKR needs to sort out its own economy to keep on defending.
I do think that China will start supplying lethal weapons to Russia one way or another soon.
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Good for Serbia.
China is helping to prop up the Russian economy. Here’s how
A mysterious fleet is helping Russia ship oil around the world. And it’s growing
https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/22/economy/china-russia-economic-ties-ukraine-intl-hnk/index.html
A mysterious fleet is helping Russia ship oil around the world. And it’s growing
https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/01/business/russia-oil-shadow-fleet/index.html
Good piece about the underlying information war on both sides.
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First day of spring in in like 3 weeks. Weird Russkies.
I think it was a huge mistake by the Russians to bank on this happening. It’s also very fortunate for us that it didn’t. If the rest of Europe had had to choose between warming its citizens and powering its industry this winter, I think we’d see huge pressure to normalise relations. As it is we’ve now got 6-8 months of relatively good weather to hopefully drop the price of oil and gas and build up a reserve for the next one.
Yeah smells like just another false flag operation like the crimean bridge to justify inhumane actions in Ukraine. Ukraine gets nothing out of it attacking a poor village. But Putin gets his "Ukraine are terrorists" narrative going which is his foundation for civilian terror in Ukraine and support at home. This goes 200 years back to the tsar who set Moscow on fire and told his people Napoleon did it. It's in their veins.
edit: I don't doubt there are partisan groups in Russia working, that's why we saw an unusual amount of fires last year in russia. But those are not dumb enough to attack some meaningless villages and even make photos for Social Media for it.
Yeah, video of those 2 with a flag and yellow stripes so nobody cant miss them looks legit.
The whole thing is just very weird.
First you have things like this which would indicate it is infact a attack comming from Ukraine.
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But on the other hand it makes no sense why a sabotage group would be as big as the claimed 40-50 troops, why would they wear yellow battle markings while operating behind enemy lines and why attack civilians in a small village.
The whole thing makes no sense to me.
In follow-up responses, it seems that it was impacting mostly data over cell service, rather than home internet.
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Weird false flag. Another mobilisation taking place, or more dissent than we’re hearing about in Russia?
That didn't take long. Attacking one russian village is a terrorist attack, but bombing, raping and murdering tens of thousands civilians in Ukraine is acceptable. No hypocrisy to see here, moving on.
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Even for a false flag operation this is so badly done it's comical.
Yeah, I've seen it and I've tried it with mobile too (I have the same operator as the twitter guy). To be fair expressVPN does their fair share of work to try and stay available so maybe they've switched something between his tweet and my check.
Ehm, was the crimean bridge bombing a false flag operation? Did I miss something?
This one does seem... sketchy to say the least though. Especially since Putin was apparently supposed so go there and now had to cancel his visit for security reasons.
No way. If that was the case it would be the most stupid false flag operation in history. The destruction of the bridge has been extremly problematic for Russia and their ability to supply the troops in Crimea and southern Ukraine.
There's a tendency I think to see false flags everywhere when it concerns Russia. Good to just wait for more info.
We owe him so much, don't we? Such a wise and kind man.
At this point, I don't think these propagandist videos are worth posting anymore given that they don't really add anything to the thread.
I disagree. I think it's good to know what's being said on Russian state tv, get a feeling of what's on their mind.
Nothing has changed from what has been said on state TV from day one. Its getting to be gratuitous spam.
I don't think it was a false flag at all. The Ukrainians have been sinking ships, attacking bridges, using drones to attack sites within Russia for most of the war.
It is mind blowing there are people out there who actually believe this balatantly obvious propaganda nonsense. There's not even nuance to it, it is just obvious and clumsy manipulation.
China and India have been propping Putin him. His demise would've been expedited without their support imo.
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As we've seen in Iran and a few other places, its nearly impossible for governments to completely cut their public off from outside information. Even uber-totalitarian North Korea can't do it, since South Koreans are sending balloons into the country with news from the outside. The Russians, who are pretty tech savvy, would have devised all sorts of ways to get around any VPN blocks.
I think they've rebuilt the damage pretty quickly, so I wouldn't speak about strategic consequences but it was always more of a symbolic gesture (and a heck of a symbolic gesture at that — Putin & the goons were fuming).
I've missed most of it as I wasn't near the news today. What a circus.
is that Scholz with the flag ?
Few believe it, even in Russia. The distinction between 'Pravda' and 'Istina' (both meaning 'truth') perhaps illustrates the post-soviet nihilism concerning truth. 'Pravda' already stood for subjective truth, with moral and legal tones (the ancient kievan rus legal code was called 'pravda'), implying norms of norms and values for behaviour. Then of course you have the broadsheet Pravda, which was the communist propaganda organ of choice throughout the soviet period. In contrast to Istrida, which has more a connnotation of 'objective truth'. Pravda has been stretched to the point of torture for at least a century in Russia by now.
I reckon most Russians hearing all that don't even ponder the believability of it. The takeaway is not facts, but how you are supposed to think about it and react, to either succeed (for the patriots) or not get in trouble (for the conscientious pragmatist). For a lot of russians, all sides lie and 'twas ever thus.
In my opinion it was. I always ask myself who benefits more if we don't know the truth and for me it's clearly Russia.
The bridge was still usable after the attack. One lane got destroyed and the train track got damaged. The cars used just the other lane for the time being and the train tracks were repaired pretty quick if I remember correctly. Further, they scan and inspect every truck driving on that bridge.
That leaves a boat? Could be, but pretty unlikely in my opinion, because it had to go a long way around crimea unnoticed and because only one lane collapsed and the other had no damage at all, which makes a truck bomb much more likely. And who benefited most from that attack? Russia of course, because soon after they started their missile terror right before the winter as an answer to that bridge attack. A pretty good trade for a half usable bridge for a few months in my opinion. I think that incident was needed by Putin to justify his civilian terror. He chose a prestige object worth mentioning, but did not hit it that hard for it to become a real problem.
The train track closer to the highway has still not been repaired and the other one is only open to lighter passanger trains, if I'm not mistaken. It was and to some point still is a major bottle neck for Russian logistics going to Crimea and Souther Ukraine. There is only one other railway that goes From Russian controlled areas into Southern Ukraine and Crimea and that line runs only 18km from Vuhledar, this is most likely why the Russians are so desperate to capture the city and push Ukrainian artillery further away from the railway line.In my opinion it was. I always ask myself who benefits more if we don't know the truth and for me it's clearly Russia.
The bridge was still usable after the attack. One lane got destroyed and the train track got damaged. The cars used just the other lane for the time being and the train tracks were repaired pretty quick if I remember correctly. Further, they scan and inspect every truck driving on that bridge.
That leaves a boat? Could be, but pretty unlikely in my opinion, because it had to go a long way around crimea unnoticed and because only one lane collapsed and the other had no damage at all, which makes a truck bomb much more likely. And who benefited most from that attack? Russia of course, because soon after they started their missile terror right before the winter as an answer to that bridge attack. A pretty good trade for a half usable bridge for a few months in my opinion. I think that incident was needed by Putin to justify his civilian terror. He chose a prestige object worth mentioning, but did not hit it that hard for it to become a real problem.
I just don't see why they would choose to destroy one of their most important supply lines as a false flag when there is thousands of other targets to choose from that wouldn't affect their war effort in Ukraine.