[Schmeichel's Cartwheel]

Romero
AWB--Bailly--Maguire--Williams
Matic--Pogba
Greenwood--Bruno--Rashford
Martial

3-1 - smash them on the counter.

Bailly is an own goal / red card / injury waiting to happen . Lindelof please.

 

[Jonno]

Bailly is an own goal / red card / injury waiting to happen . Lindelof please.

He's very quick and played very well the other night.

They didn't score in 120 minutes and that's down to Bailly and Maguire playing very well. Lindelof did well when he came off the bench, but I expect Ole to continue with Bailly.

 

[bond19821982]

My argument wasn't about with or without Pogba but about your decision & reason to choose Bruno over Pogba. We were solid defensively against City & Chelsea, and still managed to create good amount of chances & beat them 2-0. So your logic to choose Bruno over Pogba didn't apply to what happened in those two games.

You didn't get my point - there was no Pogba available so we really had no other choice but to go with Bruno and 2 matches is nothing to make a case for your assumption. Moreover he has actually been losing lot of balls from a dangerous position since then.

Pogba is a better passer, Bruno is a better goal scorer.

 

[UNITED ACADEMY]

You didn't get my point - there was no Pogba available so we really had no other choice but to go with Bruno and 2 matches is nothing to make a case for your assumption. Moreover he has actually been losing lot of balls from a dangerous position since then.

Pogba is a better passer, Bruno is a better goal scorer.

What are you on about mate, Pogba being available or no isn't your point. The argument is that you would rather bench Bruno than Pogba instead of bench Pogba or another player to compliment Bruno.

This is what you said:

I would bench Bruno. We just can't afford to lose the ball when we get it (because we will rarely get it).

352 - Pogba, Scot and Matic , Rashy and Martial.

Bruno creativity in the final third is exactly what Ole needed to play in his direct football in order to exploit our attackers/forwards. Just like what Fortitude already told you, "Rather put him up to support striker than bench him, if the concern is his wastefulness with the ball." And we did it when we beat Chelsea & City 2-0.

It's not assumption if it was happening. On the other hand, your case is based on....

 

[bond19821982]

What are you on about mate, Pogba being available or no isn't your point. The argument is that you would rather bench Bruno than Pogba instead of bench Pogba or another player to compliment Bruno.

This is what you said:



Bruno creativity in the final third is exactly what Ole needed to play in his direct football in order to exploit our attackers/forwards. Just like what Fortitude already told you, "Rather put him up to support striker than bench him, if the concern is his wastefulness with the ball." And we did it when we beat Chelsea & City 2-0.

It's not assumption if it was happening. On the other hand, your case is based on....

Dude - you changed your narrative by bringing up old matches. My point has been pretty clear from the very first post. Bench Bruno because he takes too much risks and in certain matches we can't afford that. Pogba is much more composed and a better passer and since we need defensive stability, only one of them can start (imo).

Don't know whats so confusing here. You are trying to prove some point by bringing up some old matches which means absolutely nothing for Sunday. Bruno has been going good to bad to worse in terms of losing the ball since we played Chelsea or City.

 

[UNITED ACADEMY]

Dude - you changed your narrative by bringing up old matches. My point has been pretty clear from the very first post. Bench Bruno because he takes too much risks and in certain matches we can't afford that. Pogba is much more composed and a better passer and since we need defensive stability, only one of them can start (imo).

Don't know whats so confusing here. You are trying to prove some point by bringing up some old matches which means absolutely nothing for Sunday. Bruno has been going good to bad to worse in terms of losing the ball since we played Chelsea or City.

You were the one who said that Sevilla is a proper possession based team who has runners all around, which is why I bring up the Chelsea & City matches who are also proper possession based team who has runners all around. Don't know why it is so difficult to understand the reason why I bringing up those matches.

It's pretty much to give you an idea what kind of reward Bruno can bring into our team against these type of teams, also what we can do to compliment him and what we can do to make advantage of the wastefulness with the ball. On the other hand, there is nothing to back it up but just your fantasia that Pogba would have been better choice than Bruno in Ole's system.

 

[Isotope]

Yeah, I forgot that Ole will read this thread before deciding on Sunday's formation. Good point.

Like my ex used to say, "I don't understand you".

 

[Isotope]

Really looking forward to this. Covid-19 aside, I’ve really enjoyed watching United on warm summer days with ice cold beers. The Leicester game we moved the TV outside, which was a first for a PL game here in the middle of Norway! We’ve looked a little off the pace since Villa (?), but we’ve managed to come out on top most of the time.

I trust us to do what’s needed. Only Martial looked close to top form vs Copenhagen so hopefully a few more players can perform, like Rashford. 3-1 to us with Bruno scoring a pen

It will be sunday afternoon here, and supposedly 42 degrees outside. So I'd just stay inside, laying on my lazy recliner with popcorn and soda.

 

[bond19821982]

It's pretty much to give you an idea what kind of reward Bruno can bring into our team against these type of teams, also what we can do to compliment him and what we can do to make advantage of the wastefulness with the ball. On the other hand, there is nothing to back it up but just your fantasia that Pogba would have been better choice than Bruno in Ole's system.

Like you have 2 matches to backup your point that Bruno wouldn't be a good fit , I also have 2 matches to back my point, Pogba would be a better fit (if you really want to go that route). So this Fantasia stuff holds good for both of us. Let that sink it in.

In other words, everyone has an opinion. Its not hard to agree to disagree and move on.

 

[UNITED ACADEMY]

Like you have 2 matches to backup your point that Bruno wouldn't be a good fit , I also have 2 matches to back my point, Pogba would be a better fit (if you really want to go that route). So this Fantasia stuff holds good for both of us. Let that sink it in.

In other words, everyone has an opinion. Its not hard to agree to disagree and move on.

What are these 2 matches? Your logic remains fantasia so far.

 

[Machine Elements]

If we play with a back four in this game, Williams will be in trouble against either of their wingers. Also need to keep midfield strong this time.

Last time we played against Sevilla our midfield was Lingard in front of the Fellaini - Matic double pivot with Pogba on the bench. Hopefully we're not getting dominated in midfield this time.

 

[Ekeke]

We're a lot more comfortable playing against teams that are willing to attack us and leave space in behind, which I'm assuming Sevilla will do. It should be an open game with plenty of goals. That's the hope anyway.

But we're weak on defending set pieces, which is their main goal threat

 

[always_hoping]

I'd expect this United team to start.



Won't surprise me if management go with DeGea and a back 5. Have a strong feeling this tie will be decided on penalties. Out of interest who do we think would be Uniteds 5 penalty takers and what's Sevillas recent record like in penalty shootouts?

 

[Trex]

Ole usually play a back five against this sides he feel would try to play on the front foot and has quality
Romero
Bailly Maguire Lindelof
AWB Pogba Matic Williams
Fernandes
Martial Rashford

 

[Strelok]

Sevilla's weakness is, that they struggle to score goals. Its both down to tactics and individual quality. Its a 433 with a defensive midfielder/destroyer and two central midfielders, that don't contribute a lot in the final third. For Lopetegui control is the most important thing. That puts a lot of responsibility on the wingers and fullbacks to create something. Up top its either de Jong or En-Nesyri (I expect the later to start again). Lets ignore individual quality (both are miles behind someone like Martial), but they are both big guys, who are not going to dribble past players, run in-behind or are able to hold the ball up for a long time. They need service. The problem is, that they are very isolated, because the midfielders usually don't join them. That makes it very easy for defenders to stop them without much risk. Allowing Sevilla to have possession isn't that big of a deal as long as you don't overdo it like Wolves did. They just stopped playing football after 15 minutes, which was a bit silly.
The upside of this approach is, that Sevilla concedes only few goals and are very stable. Additionally, the team knows how to be a bit cnut-ish in terms of fouls, dives and theatrics to disrupt the opposition, if necessary.

Here is roughly the scoring table for all competitions for players, who might start:

Winger: two of
Ocampos - 17 - 3440
Munir - 10 - 1700 (includes 5 goals against Düdelingen)
Suso - 1 - 1000

CFs: one of
En Nesyri - 6 - 1000 (joined the club in January)
de jong - 7 - 2580

central midfielders:
Banega - 3 - 2870
Jordan - 2 - 3060
Vazquez - 6 - 1500 (as sub; doesn't play a major role anymore; he is a bit different in the sense, that he plays a lot closer to the striker, so he might be a sub, if Sevilla need a goal)

Combined Diego Carlos, Kounde and Regulion scored 8. The goals from Banega and Jordan came from set pieces, where Sevilla is very dangerous.

The biggest threat by far is Ocampos (when he starts on the right), because he is able to take on players in 1v1s and is very creative. Stop him and Sevilla is having a hard time to score from open play. Both fullbacks are fast and happy to go forward, but they are also a bit predictable. I don't think that United needs to change their system. The left sided midfielder and winger have help Williams, but thats about it. Don't make silly mistakes and trust your forwards. I was pretty confident, that Sevilla would advance against Wolves, but this game is imo mostly decided by United. If you turn up in good form, you'll win because you have much more quality up front and Sevilla is a very good match-up for your normal tactics. You'll get in trouble, if make too many individual mistakes and get nervous, but thats always going to be the case regardless of line-up/approach.

Good post mate.

I used to watch Liga a couple years ago and was pretty impressed with Muriel. Quite a surprise when I found out he's already moved to Atalanta. Do you happen to know why ?

 

[PedroMendez]

Good post mate.

I used to watch Liga a couple years ago and was pretty impressed with Muriel. Quite a surprise when I found out he's already moved to Atalanta. Do you happen to know why ?

He is a talented player, but had no end product at all. He fluffed chance after chance after chance. He was second choice to Ben Yedder and after the first season it was pretty clear that this wouldn't change. He was the record signing at the time and not really happy, so when he had an offer from a Seria A club, it was best for everyone to move on. I think its one of those cases where a player just can't show his talent for a club.

 

[lsd]

We haven't a hope here i think we will lose by 3 at least so i wouldn't risk too many of our best players

 

[always_hoping]

We haven't a hope here i think we will lose by 3 at least so i wouldn't risk too many of our best players

Will certainly lose by at least 3 if many of our best players aren't played..

 

[ColvaleGoa]

We haven't a hope here i think we will lose by 3 at least so i wouldn't risk too many of our best players

When was the last time we lost by 3?

 

[ChaddyP]

When was the last time we lost by 3?

Everton away last year i think

 

[lsd]

When was the last time we lost by 3?

We are knackered and i never fancy us against Spanish teams especially against Sevilla with their record against english teams .

 

[Isotope]

We mostly started with back 5 on big games. I doubt it will change.

 

[Redplane]

We are knackered and i never fancy us against Spanish teams especially against Sevilla with their record against english teams .

With Spanish teams I always feel like we need to pick whoever is highest on cockyness/confidence at that time..to.not let their shenanigans get to their head. No time for sulking against a team like Sevilla.

 

[Strelok]

He is a talented player, but had no end product at all. He fluffed chance after chance after chance. He was second choice to Ben Yedder and after the first season it was pretty clear that this wouldn't change. He was the record signing at the time and not really happy, so when he had an offer from a Seria A club, it was best for everyone to move on. I think its one of those cases where a player just can't show his talent for a club.

Oh I see, thanks mate.

 

[Adam-Utd]

We mostly started with back 5 on big games. I doubt it will change.

That's only really because the English teams do too.

Sevilla play a 4231 like we do, so we will stick to that.

 

[Isotope]

That's only really because the English teams do too.

Sevilla play a 4231 like we do, so we will stick to that.

Really. Chelsea, City, Liverpool. They all stick to back 4 against our back 5.

 

[Adam-Utd]

Really. Chelsea, City, Liverpool. They all stick to back 4 against our back 5.

Chelsea and Arsenal both play 3-4-3.

Yes we've played that way against Liverpool and City also, but that's because they are better than us in possession and we setup for counter attack. I don't think we will risk playing that way against Sevilla. Giving them possession easily on a hot night is a recipe for disaster.

 

[wolvored]

This will be really tough and can see it going to extra time, maybe pens. Although we had plenty of goes at scoring against Copenhagen we still had to do some last ditch defending and Seville are a much better team than Copenhagen. Cant call this one.

 

[Ekeke]

Pretty sure we'll play the back 5 like any big game. Its been our approach and we've had decent success with it. 3 Cbs when you dont trust 2

 

[lenny_1248]

Pretty sure we'll play the back 5 like any big game. Its been our approach and we've had decent success with it. 3 Cbs when you dont trust 2

We beat Chelsea, City and Tottenham in the first half of the season playing with a back four.

 

[MalcolmTucker]

I'd expect this United team to start.



Won't surprise me if management go with DeGea and a back 5. Have a strong feeling this tie will be decided on penalties. Out of interest who do we think would be Uniteds 5 penalty takers and what's Sevillas recent record like in penalty shootouts?

It really baffles me that papers or fans get the central defenders positions mixed up. All season Maguire has been the left sided centreback and Lindelof the right but you still have it wrong.

 

[LawCharltonBest]

It really baffles me that papers or fans get the central defenders positions mixed up. All season Maguire has been the left sided centreback and Lindelof the right but you still have it wrong.

I'm more concerned that Martial is our GK and Romero is our lone striker

 

[Tomuś]

We haven't a hope here i think we will lose by 3 at least so i wouldn't risk too many of our best players

For someone with that username you aren't half miserable.

 

[Dante]

It really baffles me that papers or fans get the central defenders positions mixed up. All season Maguire has been the left sided centreback and Lindelof the right but you still have it wrong.

Pogba and Matic are also mixed up.

 

[always_hoping]

It really baffles me that papers or fans get the central defenders positions mixed up. All season Maguire has been the left sided centreback and Lindelof the right but you still have it wrong.

Pogba and Matic are also mixed up.

A pair of pedantic posters.

 

[Dr Foo]

Pretty sure we'll play the back 5 like any big game. Its been our approach and we've had decent success with it. 3 Cbs when you dont trust 2

Just out of curiosity what is our win rate by playing 5 at the back under Ole? I remember winning against Chelsea earlier this season that's about it. But as another poster pointed out, several of our other big wins are done with our usual set up. Not sure if it makes sense to surrender the initiative from the start and play counter attacking - haven't watched much of Sevilla though.

 

[Gator Nate]

Ole usually play a back five against this sides he feel would try to play on the front foot and has quality
Romero
Bailly Maguire Lindelof
AWB Pogba Matic Williams
Fernandes
Martial Rashford

While I disagree that he'll play that lineup... it's a very good one that I'd love to see. It becomes VERY offensive very quickly, which is why he probably wouldn't go there with Williams. If Shaw were available, though...

 

[Ekeke]

Just out of curiosity what is our win rate by playing 5 at the back under Ole? I remember winning against Chelsea earlier this season that's about it. But as another poster pointed out, several of our other big wins are done with our usual set up. Not sure if it makes sense to surrender the initiative from the start and play counter attacking - haven't watched much of Sevilla though.

In the league its 2 wins, 1 draw, 1 loss and 5 goals scored 3 conceded for the 5-3-2 that can become 3-4-1-2 if our fullbacks are bombing forward, which they dont...

Since christmas we lost against Chelsea, won against City, won against Chelsea, won against City again, lost to Liverpool and then beat City a 3rd time with 5 at the back.

Against Leicester we played with a back 4 and won, Spurs we drew and lost to Arsenal

 

[Alemar]

De Gea

Bissaka
Lindelof
Maguire
Williams

Matic
Pogba
Bruno

Greenwood
Martial
Rashford

 

[jymufc20]

For someone with that username you aren't half miserable.

He must be tripping.