2nd season would just be a documentary. They practically spoiled who won at the end of the series
Television Shōgun (FX Networks series) - premieres February 27, 2024
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
Well, they showed us what Toranaga thought (dreamed) would happen.
Of course, a history book would do the same
That begin said, I really don't want them to do a second season. I hope the see sense, not cent$, and do the right thing.
2nd season could be about what happens after he becomes Shogun. Or could jump ahead in time to another crisis. It obviously wouldn't be about his path to being Shogun, because that's what this season was. He won - that's what we saw.
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Given the critical success, it was obvious Disney was going to push for a second season. Will be interesting which direction they go, considering how it ended.
This is why we can't have nice things.
I don't understand.
The plot finished. The book is done. There is no more source material for Shogun.
The plot finished. The book is done. There is no more source material for Shogun.
Oh ffs. Leave it alone, you twats
I don't care if it's a cash grab, it's fecking brilliant and I'll lap it up anyway. Half as good as excellent will still be pretty good.
Then I remember that Yabu is gone... Okay yeah there's probably no point. Unless we bring him back. What's the survival rate for seppuku/decapitation anyway?
Then I remember that Yabu is gone... Okay yeah there's probably no point. Unless we bring him back. What's the survival rate for seppuku/decapitation anyway?
Depends on whether you have the stomach for it.
Some people lose their heads completely.
A prequel season set in England and Japan could be interesting.
They should hire the Game of Thrones creators. They thrive when there's no more source material.
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"I don't want it (a new ship)"
"He's my Shogun!"
"Actually, I never cared about Mariko"
"Toranaga kind of just forgot about the Portuguese fleet"
"Buntaro is now Master of Coin"
"He's my Shogun!"
"Actually, I never cared about Mariko"
"Toranaga kind of just forgot about the Portuguese fleet"
"Buntaro is now Master of Coin"
Well, the Battle of Sekigahara has not happened just yet. A lot also happened in the years after the real Toranaga - Ieyasu Tokugawa became Shogun, ranging from gaining a firmer grip on power, deteriorating relations with the Catholics, the arrival of English East India Company in 1613, and a lot more. And if you read enough about the real Anjin - William Adams and his service for the Tokugawa Shogunate, I say there is more than enough material to use and dramatize as a canvas for a brand new season.
Even if there are actual historical events you still need to write a compelling story. Not to mention 2 of the 3 most compelling characters are gone.
I would love to see the same creators do a completely different story with many of the actors in roughly the same era (or maybe Edo!). They can still call it Shogun. It's such a vague title anyways.
Alternatively: Fuji - The Nun Assassin
I would love to see the same creators do a completely different story with many of the actors in roughly the same era (or maybe Edo!). They can still call it Shogun. It's such a vague title anyways.
Alternatively: Fuji - The Nun Assassin
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Mariko brought back to life in episode 1 and we get Marikobowl where she fights her mate
Resurrected Mariko at the helm of the Portuguese fleet levels Osaka to the ground
It's not the point I'm making at all. I know there is material there and many real life events to draw from but this was conceived as a 1 season show and based closely on the books. This risk is we get a GOT style drop in quality in the absence of strong source material. S1 was so good it would be hard to follow up anyway even if there was a book to vase it on, so S2 is bound to be a disappointment especially when we no longer have three strong characters.
I'd have preferred if they looked at adapting some of the other books in an anthology style show.
I'm actually okay with this, because I don't really have any relationship with the source material. If it turns out good, that's great! If it turns out bad, I'll just not watch it. It's not going to completely ruin an entire book series for me, like GoT did for A Song of Ice and Fire.
Agreed. As long as Sanada is onboard I'm confident!
Up yours Game of Thrones for not having Lady Stoneheart on the show.Resurrected Mariko at the helm of the Portuguese fleet levels Osaka to the ground
They definitely missed a trick there. Still wouldn't have saved the show.
Finished this last night. Absolutely terrific! Quite intrigued to purchase the book now.
Renewed for seasons 2 and 3.
Wowzer.
Behold, the Shōgunverse!
Can they bring back Yabushige
Can they bring back Yabushige
Is this real ? Not sure how I feel about it. Absolutely loved the show, not sure they will be able to keep the uniqueness
Prequel maybe as a way to bring back Yabu and Mariko?
edit: Either way, I can’t see this going well.
edit: Either way, I can’t see this going well.
I only remember the original not seen the new one yet - from memory is there no source material for the following seasons?
It's real. The article in Empire alludes to other books in Clavell's bibliography.
Ah so (no pun) they will move on from the setting then. That sounds more promising.
No there's no more source material for the characters in Shogun. There is an outline of what follows and most were based on historical characters but his other books were set in different time periods/locations.
There's a lot of story still to be told to be fair. If we didn't know this was based on a book that's done, it's well set up for further seasons and we'd be fully expecting it.
Difficult after losing a couple of the best characters and diversion from source material rarely goes well, but its success should attract some good talent, all depends on the writing.
Difficult after losing a couple of the best characters and diversion from source material rarely goes well, but its success should attract some good talent, all depends on the writing.
They could keep some of the dead ones around with flashbacks and the like.
Yeah that's got potential. They absolutely need a few new main characters though and I don't imagine its the easiest show to cast for.
But Sanada has signed on for both seasons, so it sounds to me like they are doing a direct sequel, and just working with Clavell's family to honour the original book.