He's very far from being our best player. Bruno has done more in 5 months than he's done in 4 years. He is still technically one of our better players though I will give you that. However he's not got much competition in fairness. Other than Bruno, Martial, Greenwood and Rashford (pre back injury) there's not a great deal of quality at the club at all.No. One of if not our best player, with no one capable right now of paying anywhere near what he's worth anyway.
There you can very well attribute to his game being more mature, his better risk/reward assessment.You can't help but feel that we need more from him in the center of mid. Of late, there were no penetrating runs, no dashes in the box, not enough quality long range shooting[/B] and hardly any key passes. Unfortunately, he also has that Fred like quality of losing the ball in pivotal areas. Overall, it doesn't seem like he is ever dominating a game like players in his position and quality should.
Over a year ago? Standards are in the gutter these days.Pogba worked his socks off when we had that run in after Mou was sacked.
We do have 3 midfielders on the pitch, you are right. But I want a discussion on the balance and the roles of players, in particular Pogba. I'm scratching beneath the surface because, from what I can see, our midfield hasn't got the right balance. In particular, I feel that Pogba isn't suited to the role he's playing and that is evident by the tendency of teams to target our right hand side now.We play that in every game.
Thanks for understanding what I'm saying as opposed to the some of the other replies. I admit that if we changed the system and brought in a DM that could cover huge areas, then we may just get away with Pogba & Bruno in midfield. Finding that player will be hard, though.When you have an asset like Pogba, you should be looking for a way to utilize his skills in a best way possible, instead of looking to offload him. Players of his quality and ability are hard to replace.
Look at this situation where he plays as in a double DM pivot the same way we're looking at Greenwood playing on the right wing. Can he do the job playing in a double DM pivot? Yes he can, we've seen it with France, but it is not his natural position and outside of those Cup competitions he shouldn't be playing in that position for a prolonged period of time.
Same goes for Greenwood on the right wing. Can he chip in and do a job there? Yes. Can you see him playing in that position for an extended period of time knowing it's not his best position? Same goes for Martial on the left. He can do a decent job there, but in the longer run #9 is much more suitable for him.
We should be looking for a mobile, defensive minded DM that is used to playing as a solo DMF, but can pick a decent pass and run with the ball, someone like Casemiro for example. That would enable us to deploy Pogba in what historically has been his best position, playing on the left in a MF trio.
Ole's idea of molding MCT in a player of the similar ilk to what i mentioned is quite frankly, mind boggling. Other than the hassle, he isn't displaying any of the qualities necessary to play in that position successfully and he'll be 24 in a few months from now.
Think his red-glasses are affecting his judgement a bit too much and his persistence with some academy players in certain positions is more due to him wanting them to succeed there rather than then having the required quality to play there.
Thanks, I guess ! In hindsight I should have took a different angle instead of such an inflammatory title, but the discussion I want is still the same.Ridiculous thread. You're better than that Pocco.
Clearly he is an integral piece to the puzzle. What we need is an elite Matic 2.0 player. Someone who can play between the lines and allow Pogba to move forward more. That's plain as day to me.
Good thing is, that solution is there, the question is whether Old and his team can identify the right way to to about it.Thanks for understanding what I'm saying as opposed to the some of the other replies. I admit that if we changed the system and brought in a DM that could cover huge areas, then we may just get away with Pogba & Bruno in midfield. Finding that player will be hard, though.
If you were to build our midfield from scratch with Bruno at the top, you'd never choose Pogba in that midfield behind him. Ideally you want somebody that can do the nitty gritty stuff alongside a DM, but can also play football to a high level. Somebody like Modric, for example. Pogba just doesn't have the workrate or defensive nous to be tasked with covering gaps around him, he should be the player in Bruno's position but Bruno has completely smashed it there and produced more than Pogba ever has for us in that position.
Pogba is the epitome of a square peg in a round hole for us right now.
How many shots has he taken in the last couple months? Feels like every time there's an opening for a shot he instead holds and tries to passI think his best position is on the left in a mid of more advanced role, let's say a pushed up number 8.
Also, he's very good at going into the box and shooting from range, something he can't really do as a DM.
Its a joke what some of the comments on here are.Too many fans have no clue about the nuances of the game and only understand players who leg it around all game and 'put a shift in'.
Typical mentality of many fans of english football. And why technically gift players often get criminally undervalued in english football.
There's a lot of subtly going on in Pogba's game and he's bloody brilliant.
I grew up watching him play so you can keep that to yourself.Sensational? Hahahahahaha
He was awful first half. Yes he played pretty well for 25 to 30 mins in second half but if you think that was sensational then you clearly never saw Scholes play.
That's it, we either accept what he is and adjust the team setup somehow, or we should let him go and replace with a better fit to whatever is Ole idea.I really don't see why anyone has any faith we're ever going to get more out of Pogba than we have so far. He's been here ages now and we're still having the same discussions.
I don't know what to say.People watched yesterday's game and came to the conclusion that we should sell Pogba?
If you come to this forum after a defeat the blame is always pointed to the same people.I grew up watching him play so you can keep that to yourself.
He worked hard defensively, got around the press, kept the ball in tight situations while constantly feeding the ball forward to Bruno or setting the widemen away even after yhe front 4 lost their legs after our great spell.
Paul never slowed down.
Our front players didnt magically get the ball in dangerous positions from the grace of God you know.
But keep agenda posting away. Live life to the fullest hahahahahaha