Just what it had to do with this.You really don't comprehend things too well.
Maybe your right, but there is DRM all over the place at the moment anyway.
Just what it had to do with this.You really don't comprehend things too well.
Yeah, well, thanks for that.Just what it had to do with this.
Maybe your right, but there is DRM all over the place at the moment anyway.
Part of the problem with SimCity is that some of the calculations are done server-side, it's more than just used for DRM.Just what it had to do with this.
Maybe your right, but there is DRM all over the place at the moment anyway.
Is there any way to view the worst rated products on amazon?
Oh dearJust look through the best sellers on Origin. I'm sure a few will be up there.
Oh dear again.Part of the problem with SimCity is that some of the calculations are done server-side, it's more than just used for DRM.
Online DRM and cloud gaming are well known sources of apprehension among gamers. At least I'm interested if someone who has connections with the industry expresses concern, with regards to the possilbe future of these things. Posting in a thread partly about botched DRM, seems appropriate.Sim City is on PS4?
The next gen is designed to usher in cloud gaming and shit like this, yes.Oh dear
Oh dear again.
Okay I see what you mean Lambs. Is this what is in store for the PS4?
Well most actual developers are hardcore gamers and no, everyone I know hates where it's going.Online DRM and cloud gaming are well known sources of apprehension among gamers. At least I'm interested if someone who has connections with the industry expresses concern, with regards to the possilbe future of these things. Posting in a thread partly about botched DRM, seems appropriate.
The most helpful review:People are well and truly pissed!
http://www.amazon.com/SimCity-Limit...dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1
That rating is quite something!
Fundamentally, SimCity has always been a 'software toy'. That means that there's no real end state, no way to win. It's just a thing that you play and experiment with. You build, and tinker, and mess around. It's a toy, not a game; it's a sandbox, not baseball.
So, in this iteration of the game, you don't even get to buy your toy. Rather, you rent a toy from EA, who lets you play with it only in very limited, circumscribed ways, only on their servers. So you have to have a live Internet connection at all times, and their servers have to be up, and have to have space for you. And the rules for play are draconian. If you want to, say, build a city, save it, blow it up with something terrible, and then restore from save, you can't do that anymore. That's an unauthorized usage of their toy. And if you figure out ways of using their toy that they don't like, they'll ban you forever.
All third-party modding is shut out. One of the best parts of SimCity 4 and The Sims is that users can create and share content among themselves for free. You will no longer be able to do this. You will be required to run only Official Authorized Content.
Further, you're not getting the whole game for your $60 or $80, depending on what version you're buying. EA's plan is to sell you Simcity 5 over and over and over. They've directly admitted that they already have it running with larger cities, but they're not releasing that now. They claim it's because it "won't run on Dad's PC", but the real reason is so they can sell it to you again later. Want subways? That's gonna be $20. Want railroads? Another $20. Bigger cities? Oh, that's in the $30 expansion.
Right now, if you look at The Sims 3, the game costs $30. But if also you buy all the DLC for it, it's *four hundred and seventy dollars*. This is what they are doing with SimCity 5; locking you into their server infrastructure, and then exploiting the heck out of your wallet.
This is a lousy deal, and you would be stupid to take it. Always-on DRM, and a deliberately crippled game, so that they can slowly uncripple it, charging you for every restored feature from prior versions.
Simcity 4 still works pretty well. It's not quite as nice as most current games, and can require you to 'pin' the process to just one processor on a multi-core system (ie, most current machines), but if you want a city builder where you won't have to pay extra to breathe both in AND out, that would be a better option.
But buying this game? In my opinion, you would be wiser to take three twenties out of your wallet, and light them on fire.
Wow. Don't think I've ever seen a game get slated that badly in ratings beforePeople are well and truly pissed!
http://www.amazon.com/SimCity-Limit...dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1
That rating is quite something!
Well I was more talking about franchises and companies they ruined through rushed releases and watering down gameplay according to what their analysts thought people wanted from games.What EA games have been completely and horrendously fecked up like this before? Or even close?
Spore was the original DRM bollocked game, but at least that ran. EA Games have always struggled with lack of patches and crap too.
Star Wars: The Old Republic was a complete shambles on launch. For the first 2 weeks they even did scheduled maintenance in EU prime time because they refused to do it separate from the NA times. It was also incredibly rushed for release, another 6 months in production and this game could have been great. Massive failure in the end this should have done so much better, A Bioware MMO with the Star Wars IP and one of the biggest budgets in gaming history completely ruined.What EA games have been completely and horrendously fecked up like this before? Or even close?
Spore was the original DRM bollocked game, but at least that ran. EA Games have always struggled with lack of patches and crap too.
The game is dumbed down and watered down to fit in a couple of expansions.It's amazing.
Every time I think it can't get worse with EA games they actually manage to feck it up even more.
The game itself is quite nice when you can play it, which unfortunately isn't very often.
It will happen, that's what the next gen is all about, getting everyone signed up ready for it.I don't think I'll ever buy a game that requires me to be online all the time.
EDIT- Well, on reading redlambs posts, who knows?
Well there's a lot of indie stuff on Steam and there will always be those around, there always has been and always will be. However when we do go full cloud, we'll still be stuck with having to go full publisher servers to get them.Is there a chance some niche developers exploit this and offers the opposite of this crap with quality titles?
I'd say that DA2's reuse of the same environments 15 times was almost as obnoxious as this issue At least this server issue will eventually be fixed, that shitty game design will be the same foreverWhat EA games have been completely and horrendously fecked up like this before? Or even close?
The concept for sim city 5 is pretty under-handed and I agree people should boycott it. Atleast sell the full game rather for that kind of money.Sadly I don't this is the end for DRM.
People should boycott the game as this issue affects all gamers. Imagine a future where building a museum in Sim City costs a real life £1 for the download.
feck that.
You're not really buying the game are you? Effectively you're paying 40 quid to rent a game out. Don't like it at all. Don't mind DLC but if it gets to the stage where you have to start buying content within the game to 'keep up' with others I'll be really fecked off. Hate all the micro transaction bollocks.It will happen, that's what the next gen is all about, getting everyone signed up ready for it.
Well there's a lot of indie stuff on Steam and there will always be those around, there always has been and always will be. However when we do go full cloud, we'll still be stuck with having to go full publisher servers to get them.
There will be good games coming through, but as we saw last generation and into the next, the mainstream ones will mostly be dumb as feck.
What? Have you actually read my posts?You're not really buying the game are you? Effectively you're paying 40 quid to rent a game out. Don't like it at all. Don't mind DLC but if it gets to the stage where you have to start buying content within the game to 'keep up' with others I'll be really fecked off. Hate all the micro transaction bollocks.
Sorry? Question wasn't aimed at you, just in general, in the future we won't be "buying" games but "renting" them.What? Have you actually read my posts?
Ahh, that wasn't very clear.Sorry? Question wasn't aimed at you, just in general, in the future we won't be "buying" games but "renting" them.
Hehe.EA censors its own support number on its forums
EA's SimCity saga has provided no shortage of comedy. Maxis general manager Lucy Bradshaw just yesterday proudly announced that the company is "hearing from thousands of people who are playing across regions, trading, communicating and loving the Always-Connected functionality." Surely EA must be receiving a mountain of complaints as well, unless it somehow found a way to prevent customers from even contacting the support team. Hmmm...
As EA forum member LeLedg and others have accidentally discovered in a thread about customers trying to make a legitimate SimCity complaints, EA is preventing the customer assistance hotline number from even appearing in the forums. When you type out the number 866-543-5435, it is replaced by an asterisk, a common message board function typically used to block course language. Just to be safe, the forum-goers typed other permutations of the number in addition to completely different phone numbers -- it's only EA's number that's censored.
They completely underestimated their customer base. Every game is made as simply and cheaply as possible in order to maximise sales through quantity rather than quality and reduce production costs. Their strategy has been to buy out publishers with titles and use the names of their titles to sell copies rather than the quality of the game.I see that the CEO of EA has resigned due to the poor financial performance of the company.. not surprising with the way they piss off their customer base..
About time it caught up with them. The number of excellent game series that EA has destroyed by buying out the competition (the company that actually made the game) is disgraceful. The screw over their customers at any given chance, so I imagine there'd be a worldwide celebration if they finally stopped existing.I see that the CEO of EA has resigned due to the poor financial performance of the company.. not surprising with the way they piss off their customer base..
I want to get it, but it's so expensive.Anyone playing this then? Had it since release and really enjoying it now. Looking to join a or start a region with a few decent people who won't just abandon after a day or so. Origin ID is same as on here if anyone fancies it.