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Standing Ovation for Ole?
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I don't know if you're being serious but people have this misconception that Fergie's team always dominated possession. We didn't. In fact, often times, we ceded possession to play on the counter.
I remember once Southampton had more possession at OT than us. We won the game but I had the feeling that we should've got more of the ball and so-called dominate.
Then Fergie retired, and Van Gaal had us controlling possession and during those terrible days where we'd struggle to break teams down, it dawned on me that Fergie knew what he was doing.
United had more shots on target than city FYI
To be fair they all had a much much better squad to work with. And our rebuild is almost all positions.
So, Spurs and Man City weren't the real test?
Beating Tottenham and Manchester City aren't results?
So you think United under Ferguson has 70% possession in big games ? It was exactly like Ferguson and his counter attacking play in the big games especially in Europe
Of course they are, but ultimately it means nothing if we can’t beat teams at the lower half of the table. It just means we’re becoming a game raising outfit, like Liverpool of old. I think it’s fair that some of us, including myself aren’t going to change our tune until Ole until he can prove we’re not just that and I hope he will.
Agreed.
It's always the next game that is the "real test" for Ole.
Maybe if Oles manages to win a few PL titles we can start comparing him to Fergie. Remember Ole had a great 15 games run when he came in and then everything fell apart. I think if Ole can finish in the Top 4 four he's at least won himself more time to stay as our manager.
He's being sarcastic because the OleOut crowd keep repeating the same shite over and over.
It's so up and down it's difficult to make any big conclusions.
Let's enjoy these moments, because we are going to see plenty of ups and downs over the course of the season.
The Klopp and Fergie comparisons are admirable, but they don't quite ring true with me. I think Klopp and Fergie have alot in common mind.
Ole is an untested gamble. Who knows how it'll play out. I really don't think comparisons are all that relevant IMO.
The psthetic snipes are getting boring mind. State of some of you.
Let's enjoy these moments, because we are going to see plenty of ups and downs over the course of the season.
The Klopp and Fergie comparisons are admirable, but they don't quite ring true with me. I think Klopp and Fergie have alot in common mind.
Ole is an untested gamble. Who knows how it'll play out. I really don't think comparisons are all that relevant IMO.
The psthetic snipes are getting boring mind. State of some of you.
This is one of the biggest false narratives out there right now. Ole did jack sh*t. He came in as an interim manager and boosted the mood on a squad that should have been playing better.
I mean, where is Roberto Di Matteo?? Man won the Champions League afterall. You know why he's not relevant? Because he's not a good manager. That win was more down to the previous manager being gone than Roberto's non-existent brilliance. There's a reason the term "new manager bounce" exists.
The derby is as good as I’ve seen them play under him. Well done
Should tell that to Arsenal
I agree with this, particularly the part about the ups and downs throughout the season. We've got an incredibly young side and we're bound to see some inconsistency, and i wouldnt be surprised to see us draw against Everton.
Final line is also bang on, is there anywhere in the world where you see more one-upmanship than the Caf?
I think the new manager bounce is overrated. Just look at Moyes ever since he left Everton..
You're mistaking SAF's team for Pep Guardiola's team.
Exactly.
I think you'll find it's moo. It's like a cow's opinion - it doesn't even matter.
Especially in the CL, semi final in 2008 at OT vs Barca, on route to the final springs to mind as a key one.
People's assumtions without even knowing the facts makes me
.I must strongly disagree with this.
So far Ole has proven he's really good in beating bigger or equivalent teams. And he's good with the youngsters.
If I am an owner of those small clubs I'd gladly take him in, pure logic.
Actually, for most parts, Fergie's team usually dominates possession.
We routinely have high possession rates under SAF.
I think the greater misconception is that because Utd was great at counterattacking, it meant that we we prefer to cede possession than to hold it.
That may be true for Jose's stint, but not during most of SAF's time.
Aside from quick counterattacking, Utd was famous for being relentless in attack, pinning the opposition back with waves after waves of attack.
But alas, those days were so far ago now.
I recall that it was revealed later that SAF was very uncomfortable with that approach as it was against how he normally sets up his teams.
No disputing that we did it against Barca and probably several other times, but it's important to remember that this wasn't the norm.
It just shows how pragmatic SAF is in setting up his team.
It wasn’t a constant I agree, but against the very best SAF did it. Juve in Turin 2003, 3-0 is another great example, what a game that was..