Statman Dave - 5 transfers for Manchester United

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IDK what the rest of you make of Statman Dave, i think he's interesting to listen too, but i'm no expert. He's made a video about Manchester United Transfers and made suggestions.


RW - Sancho
LB - McNeil (or Burnley) or Telles
CB - Gabriel
CDM - Rice (which surprised me)

Oddly enough that's 4 players, yet the title says 5.
 

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Actually think three might be possible.

120 - Sancho
25-30 - Gabriel
10 + Dalot - Telles
 

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the idea of McNeil as a LB is an intriguing one, but he'd be too expensive anyway. We should be all over Reguilon IMO.
 

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IDK what the rest of you make of Statman Dave, i think he's interesting to listen too, but i'm no expert. He's made a video about Manchester United Transfers and made suggestions.


RW - Sancho
LB - McNeil (or Burnley) or Telles
CB - Gabriel
CDM - Rice (which surprised me)

Oddly enough that's 4 players, yet the title says 5.
Sancho is there too
 

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He's a bullshitter. No response to why a foul comitted by a defender that got them yellow carded isnt counted towards tackle %. Scatman Dave
 

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I'd be happy with that, will sort out a lot of issues. Never gonna happen in this window though.
 

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Starman Dave .He once did a video on how Lingard was a key player for the United side .

Deleted it now
 

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Starman Dave .He once did a video on how Lingard was a key player for the United side .

Deleted it now
He's employed by the club and works on our in house channel. What do you expect him to say?
 

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I really like McNeil, fits our profile perfect as well. How expensive do we reckon he would be?
 

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Think he just does some freelance stuff for the club.
Freelance or contracted....the point is he can't go around slagging off our players can he? Thats the point I was making.
 

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I don't love him but I respect the work he puts into his videos

The Gabriel link seems cringy to me. Just like every summer someone is using our name to push a deal or contract through and suddenly this player nobody considered before the report is in everyone's 'starting 11'
 

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I don't love him but I respect the work he puts into his videos

The Gabriel link seems cringy to me. Just like every summer someone is using our name to push a deal or contract through and suddenly this player nobody considered before the report is in everyone's 'starting 11'
Based on what I've seen of him, Gabriel is perfect for us and should be reasonably cheap.

Why don't you think he's good enough?
 

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Everyone with a DSLR and green screen is an expert. As if club is not aware of players like Sancho and Rice. The problem is money. It decides everything.
I'm not really sure what he says or does that makes you 1. Think he thinks he's an expert or 2. Makes out that he's claiming the club aren't aware of these players.

It's light hearted entertainment for fans with some interesting stats thrown in.

Did someone with a DSLR & green screen do you dirty?
 

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What a load of old dog that video was. Buy our long term target we're struggling to agree price on, convert a winger to a FB for massive fee or get a cheap alternative. He's basically suggesting Gabriel because of the price and little else and then we're meant to top it all off by breaking the bank for Rice.

Isn't the point of statistical analysis of footballers to find value?
 

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Is Statman his job title or is it really his name that aligns with his job? like Crentist the Dentist.
 

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Based on what I've seen of him, Gabriel is perfect for us and should be reasonably cheap.

Why don't you think he's good enough?
just think he is exactly like all the other players that just get thrown up by their agent every summer and youtube videos appear but nobody has really seen them play more than 2 games.

I'm sure he will move to everton or whoever and be grand, just annoys me that fans are such puppets for these games
 

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Whos this McNeil guy? never heard of him
 

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For £250m odd never happening anyway but weird choices in my opinion. Sancho obviously on everyones picks, but Declan Rice would cost £60-70m, unlike many I rate him highly myself, but for that fee you could probably buy two players for the same position with lots of quality already and potentially a much higher ceiling than him. And Neil for left back, wtf is that all about.....again you could sign quality young left backs that are actually left backs for similar price if not less than McNeil has cost....has he got carried away by the conversion of ALphonso Davies or something?

Also tell me if Im wrong as not seen him, but isnt Pau Torres supposed to be very quick, yet this guy says he isnt. Funny he rules him out for £45m as onl yplayed 36games at the top....when McNeil has a grand total of zero as a full back. Never seen this guy before but sounds like he is talking a crock of shite to me
 

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Why does this cnut deserve a thread about his opinions? His only qualification is a bookmark to Whoscored.
 

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For £250m odd never happening anyway but weird choices in my opinion. Sancho obviously on everyones picks, but Declan Rice would cost £60-70m, unlike many I rate him highly myself, but for that fee you could probably buy two players for the same position with lots of quality already and potentially a much higher ceiling than him. And Neil for left back, wtf is that all about.....again you could sign quality young left backs that are actually left backs for similar price if not less than McNeil has cost....has he got carried away by the conversion of ALphonso Davies or something?

Also tell me if Im wrong as not seen him, but isnt Pau Torres supposed to be very quick, yet this guy says he isnt. Funny he rules him out for £45m as onl yplayed 36games at the top....when McNeil has a grand total of zero as a full back. Never seen this guy before but sounds like he is talking a crock of shite to me
He's horribly inconsistent with his analysis. It appears he see's a player he likes and runs stats to back his opinion up. When stats don't back him up, he starts talking stylistically and then factors price in. Throws in some anecdotal evidence and boom. Statman.
 

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just think he is exactly like all the other players that just get thrown up by their agent every summer and youtube videos appear but nobody has really seen them play more than 2 games.

I'm sure he will move to everton or whoever and be grand, just annoys me that fans are such puppets for these games
Who do you like the look of for CB?
 

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Solution for left back - buy a mediocre winger and play him at left back.

Well, it really worked out great for Young and Valencia.

Declan Rice is sooo passé now too. He’ll be suggesting Sean Longstaff next.
 

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Tifo is much better. This guy doesn't really deserve the title "Statman".
 

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McNeil is a good shout. A player I really like and find it interesting that Dave has him as a left back, despite playing on the wings a lot this year. That said, I also share the same idea. I think he could make for a phonomenal left back, with the option of playing him on either wing, too.

Sancho a no brainer. At only 20, he has it all. Special talent.

Big fan of Rice. Massive fan. Would love to get him as a replacement for Matic. Defensively solid and making massive strides regards his ability on the ball. His range of passing has improved, he will dribble into space when the option is there, always looks forward and judging by his goal vs Watford, his shooting is coming on too.

Not too familiar with Gabriel, but he seems to be getting quite a bit of attention from good teams, which can only be a good sign.
 

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He's horribly inconsistent with his analysis. It appears he see's a player he likes and runs stats to back his opinion up. When stats don't back him up, he starts talking stylistically and then factors price in. Throws in some anecdotal evidence and boom. Statman.
TBH when I saw his name "Statman" was put off instantly. Can so easily pick certain stats to back up your argument, ignoring others and neither tell the whole story.
And yes, talked rubbish "Declan Rice has come on leaps and bounds this season and is finally startin gto look a player"....rubbish, he was good last season too. I noticed when he scored a couple of goals after lockdown people jumping on him being good when he has just naturally progressed from alst season, no huge improvement, has been good for a while now
 

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McNeil is a good shout. A player I really like and find it interesting that Dave has him as a left back, despite playing on the wings a lot this year. That said, I also share the same idea. I think he could make for a phonomenal left back, with the option of playing him on either wing, too.

Sancho a no brainer. At only 20, he has it all. Special talent.

Big fan of Rice. Massive fan. Would love to get him as a replacement for Matic. Defensively solid and making massive strides regards his ability on the ball. His range of passing has improved, he will dribble into space when the option is there, always looks forward and judging by his goal vs Watford, his shooting is coming on too.

Not too familiar with Gabriel, but he seems to be getting quite a bit of attention from good teams, which can only be a good sign.
We messed up letting McNeil go.

 

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McNeil is a good shout. A player I really like and find it interesting that Dave has him as a left back, despite playing on the wings a lot this year. That said, I also share the same idea. I think he could make for a phonomenal left back, with the option of playing him on either wing, too.

Sancho a no brainer. At only 20, he has it all. Special talent.

Big fan of Rice. Massive fan. Would love to get him as a replacement for Matic. Defensively solid and making massive strides regards his ability on the ball. His range of passing has improved, he will dribble into space when the option is there, always looks forward and judging by his goal vs Watford, his shooting is coming on too.

Not too familiar with Gabriel, but he seems to be getting quite a bit of attention from good teams, which can only be a good sign.
So the plan for McNiel, who plays LW for Burnley and while looks a decent player doesnt exactly strike me as an elite level talent - is for us to sign him, for LB a position he has never played where for some reason we think he will excel? Baring in mind for LW we already have Shaw as a starter and Williams as back up. Nothing to suggest a winger who has never played LB can actually be better than either. But fear not, because he can play either wing. Bizarre logic, how many LBs rotate with RW?

Rice - we know he's half decent. We know he will cost twice as much as he is worth. We know Ole is happy with his current 4 options for deep midfield. We arent signing a DM this window.

Gabriels name has been floated about to drum up the price and to spark a bidding war. He looks a good player, but he bombed initially and had 2 poor loan spells. He's had 1 good season in a poor league. He could turn out to be brilliant, or another flop. The premier league is hard to adapt too, especially defensively. He's also turned Napoli down for Arsenal, which should tell you about his ambitions really. Arsenal are hardly the biggest draw these days. Likely we scouted him, but didnt take our interest any further.
 

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So the plan for McNiel, who plays LW for Burnley and while looks a decent player doesnt exactly strike me as an elite level talent - is for us to sign him, for LB a position he has never played where for some reason we think he will excel? Baring in mind for LW we already have Shaw as a starter and Williams as back up. Nothing to suggest a winger who has never played LB can actually be better than either. But fear not, because he can play either wing. Bizarre logic, how many LBs rotate with RW?

Rice - we know he's half decent. We know he will cost twice as much as he is worth. We know Ole is happy with his current 4 options for deep midfield. We arent signing a DM this window.

Gabriels name has been floated about to drum up the price and to spark a bidding war. He looks a good player, but he bombed initially and had 2 poor loan spells. He's had 1 good season in a poor league. He could turn out to be brilliant, or another flop. The premier league is hard to adapt too, especially defensively. He's also turned Napoli down for Arsenal, which should tell you about his ambitions really. Arsenal are hardly the biggest draw these days. Likely we scouted him, but didnt take our interest any further.
Basically, yeah. It wouldn't be the first time a player has successfully transitioned into a new position. I mean, this is not something I'm just throwing out there. The reason I feel McNeil would be a good left-back is because he's a traditional winger, in that he hugs the touchline, takes players on and whips crosses in. That's not what your typical wingers do nowadays. Actually, emphasis nowadays is on the full-backs to do that, hence why I would like to see it. May not work, but without risk, there's no reward.

As for Rice, I said Matic replacement. Matic signed an extension, so I'm obviously aware we wouldn't be singing his replacement this summer. Having said that, with other clubs sniffing around, it could be too late if we want to sign him next season.
 

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Rice would be spunking a crazy amount of money on a decent player just 'cos he's English and plays in the Prem.

Our scouts should be able to find a player of equivalent quality and age somewhere else in the world (key word being should)... true that is generally the case for 90% of players, but I don't think Rice is good enough quality to warrant the ridiculous fee that West Ham would want for him.
 

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Statman relaying stats to his audience:
"He has completed more passes resulting in forward passes resulting in shots on target compared to any other player who has played at least 5 or more games for at least 75 minutes in each game across Europe, excluding the 3rd and 4th top League, and compared to United players he ranks 3rd in forward passes when passes have been completed within the final third but they've been only in the channels and when we were on the counter attack, but not a full counter attack but a mid paced counter attack"

And his stats are always relayed in a sentence with colored highlights, which makes you read the highlights first, before reading the whole sentence, which by the time you realize you need to read the sentence to understand what he's yapping in the meantime, the sentence has switched to another well plucked stat.
He's amusing, that's all.
 

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Basically, yeah. It wouldn't be the first time a player has successfully transitioned into a new position. I mean, this is not something I'm just throwing out there. The reason I feel McNeil would be a good left-back is because he's a traditional winger, in that he hugs the touchline, takes players on and whips crosses in. That's not what your typical wingers do nowadays. Actually, emphasis nowadays is on the full-backs to do that, hence why I would like to see it. May not work, but without risk, there's no reward.

As for Rice, I said Matic replacement. Matic signed an extension, so I'm obviously aware we wouldn't be singing his replacement this summer. Having said that, with other clubs sniffing around, it could be too late if we want to sign him next season.
Ok, but we actually need players to settle and hit the ground running, and more importantly in positions we actually need, such as RW.

McNeil would be 3rd choice LB if we signed him. He'd be more useful in his actual position of LW rotating with Rashford, but i think if we are after a rotation option for Rashford it has to be of much better quality.

We wouldnt sign McNeil for LB and play him ahead of Shaw or Williams, and i dont even rate Williams that highly as a starter.

Players can move positions yes, but lets try and be realistic. We need specialists in certain positions this window, not time to gamble on areas we dont really need to sign in anyway