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I'd feel very differently about this news if Bruce hadn't been manager of my club
I'd forgotten about themCan go back to writing his novels now
The new owners are already unhappy with the fans for dressing up as "arabs" and asked them to stop.
Like I said, every single piece of underlying data suggested they were on the up with Rafa. Shots and tackles were something like 4th in the league overall. He was putting things together and he had the CV to suggest he could do just that.Rafa had more than 70m to spend, he sold 4 decent players and earned a more money on selling other players. He also spent over 140+ million on nearly 30 players. He could have spent that money better but he didn't, he spent 4 and 5 million on loads of shit championship level players.
Bruce inherited that squad, spent less than 100 million on 6 players. He couldn't earn any money selling players because the ones Benitez left behind weren't worth anything. That is why his net spend is higher.
I have no problem with a club wanting a better manager. But Newcastle never had more. Benitez is hailed as some kind of hero miracle worker whereas Bruce is hated. Even though he has done the same job, earned the same points and kept Newcastle in the same league.
Yeah me too.I'm not! I would absolutely loathe being owned by the Saudi's, many times more than the Glazers... it would probably be the end of the line for me personally.
I would be really interested in seeing that data if you can put your hands on it please! I was really shocked to see this table belowLike I said, every single piece of underlying data suggested they were on the up with Rafa. Shots and tackles were something like 4th in the league overall. He was putting things together and he had the CV to suggest he could do just that.
And again, being forced to sell his best players isn’t a point against him. He did what he had to do to stay competitive and a clear look at the data suggests they were. You can’t use a negative net spend as a point against him.
Bruces numbers are horrible and they are dead last for a number of key stats in the whole league. He also didn’t have a CV to suggest he had a way forward or a plan to turn it round.
Newcastle fans weren’t wrong to back the CL winner over Steve Bruce and they have every right to believe they would be in safer hands with the former. The stats and his pedigree would have been argument enough.
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Nope.Like I said, every single piece of underlying data suggested they were on the up with Rafa. Shots and tackles were something like 4th in the league overall. He was putting things together and he had the CV to suggest he could do just that.
And again, being forced to sell his best players isn’t a point against him. He did what he had to do to stay competitive and a clear look at the data suggests they were. You can’t use a negative net spend as a point against him.
Bruces numbers are horrible and they are dead last for a number of key stats in the whole league. He also didn’t have a CV to suggest he had a way forward or a plan to turn it round.
Newcastle fans weren’t wrong to back the CL winner over Steve Bruce and they have every right to believe they would be in safer hands with the former. The stats and his pedigree would have been argument enough.
Do people even find this funny when you consider the shit he and and his family have gone through with the personal abuse?
He took over late into the season they got relegated (he took over while they were in the relegation spots, did pretty well too but wasn't enough to keep them up). He then took them straight back up despite losing some big players, and in his two seasons after promotion finished 10th and 13th, which is impressive and a little different to how you portray it.Nope.
He took them from 10th to 13th and left.
Bruce took them from 13th to 12th. That's progress.
They both play shite football, there's not much difference there, they both finished with the same amount of points. The only difference to Newcastle fans is that Bruce managed Sunderland and he was hated before he even took the job. Unless he won the league, it didn't matter what he did, they'd still have hated him and want him gone.
I think Bruce is a decent bloke, who deserves more respect than he got from the media.Do people even find this funny when you consider the shit he and and his family have gone through with the personal abuse?
Or because they are millionaires it’s ok is it?
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Karen
Maybe so. But I'm just pointing this idea that he was doing a great job and they were progressing is nonsense. Had he stayed, he would have had to spend as Bruce had to because there was no one to sell to make money, mainly because he filled the place with championship players.He took over late into the season they got relegated (he took over while they were in the relegation spots, did pretty well too but wasn't enough to keep them up). He then took them straight back up despite losing some big players, and in his two seasons after promotion finished 10th and 13th, which is impressive and a little different to how you portray it.
Where are you even getting 30 from? I only see 21. Are you counting loans? If you're trying to make a point about him saddling Bruce with permanently signed players he can't shift, I wouldn't include loans. Are you maybe double counting loans that became permanent?Maybe so. But I'm just pointing this idea that he was doing a great job and they were progressing is nonsense. Had he stayed, he would have had to spend as Bruce had to because there was no one to sell to make money, mainly because he filled the place with championship players.
But they wouldn't be much further up than they are. Probably because instead of adding a few quality players like Bruce tried to do, he would have gone out in true Rafa fashion and signed another 30 mediocre players.
Maybe so. But I'm just pointing this idea that he was doing a great job and they were progressing is nonsense. Had he stayed, he would have had to spend as Bruce had to because there was no one to sell to make money, mainly because he filled the place with championship players.
But they wouldn't be much further up than they are. Probably because instead of adding a few quality players like Bruce tried to do, he would have gone out in true Rafa fashion and signed another 30 mediocre players.