He is inconsistent but we have to consider him at his peak performance, like all the players
The Americas Draft, R1: EAP/Sjor vs DavidG 7-5
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
congrats @Edgar Allan Pillow @Šjor Bepo
Now this game has finished head over to mine and boris' game you draft junkies!
The thing is, peak isn't one or two games, it has to be a couple of seasons - and Magico never had even one when he was consistently world-class.
Re: Senna -
He was one of the main reasons why São Caetano reached Libertadores final in 2002The Guardian 2010 said:
He was brilliant for Villarreal in 2004/05 and 2005/06, earning Fergie's interest (but we settled on Hargreaves).
And Spanish dominance began with him, not after him - he was considered as one of the contenders for Euro's player of the tournament. Plus he was voted the best Spanish player in 2007/08 by Don Balon
It's especially strange to see criticism of Senna's short peak when you have Magico as one of your key players.
Didn't want to influence votes in the last minutes but I agree as well. To me Magico as well the weakest player on the pitch. He's fun to watch and has entertaining game - but apart from consistency - his peak is not that remarkable as the other players involved in this.
Senna was in the team of the tournament in 2008, best Spanish player when you have in mind he had Villa, Iniesta, Xavi etc to compete with and generally playing his best game here with the support of Varela.
Remember when the Caf was still going wild when we were linked with him even after 2008.
Shit. Was away from Internet, meant to vote before this closed. DG would have had my vote. Sorry.
good game
@Physiocrat regarding Neymar....he is pretty much playing his natural position, we dont expect any changes in his game to fit our side. He is perfect the way he is and thats why we went for him pretty early.
Re Senna. Never really rated him.
Fair enough, I'd just prefer him playing inside-left with a proper winger at outside-left in a WM. Speaking of wingers, as ever I have a tasty pair over in my match with Pat.good game
@Physiocrat regarding Neymar....he is pretty much playing his natural position, we dont expect any changes in his game to fit our side. He is perfect the way he is and thats why we went for him pretty early.
Sorry @DavidG - I had planned to vote for you but I couldn't get online due to work today. Surprised at the result to be honest. A quick ball to Cafu and he's horsing down that flank without a care in the world. Do that a couple of times and it's game over. It was a fine 3-2-2-3 effort but I basically don't buy that system without extreme graft and covering abilities right through the team.
So both you and @Mciahel Goodman would have gone for me , bit easier to take I suppose.
Magico is a wild card but I wanted to have a player from concacaf in my squad and in terms of potential game changer he fit the bill the most. There's only one maradona , and he can only have one list of his favourite players , which magico is on , and that's enough for me to justify his place. It's a shame he was so into partying , with the right application mixed with his talent he could have been a great. Tore Barcelona to shreds during one of his great performances.
Thanks mate. Always knew it'd be tough against Rivaldo and Cafu. Personally I think you were one midfielder short of a clear victory. Maybe Pool 2 quote screwed you a bit. If not for Pool 2, I'd have still thought this was your best lineup...
Clodoaldo....Romerito....
.........Alvarez..............
would have been perfect imo.
Anyways, great game!
Aye at least our game would have guaranteed goals , a lot of these other first round games look like snoozefests ( although tactically great )Thanks mate. Always knew it'd be tough against Rivaldo and Cafu. Personally I think you were one midfielder short of a clear victory. Maybe Pool 2 quote screwed you a bit. If not for Pool 2, I'd have still thought this was your best lineup...
Clodoaldo....Romerito....
.........Alvarez..............
would have been perfect imo.
Anyways, great game!
I wanted to play romerito but I can't really figure out his best position. Some have him as a wide midfielder , others as a conventional CAM but apparently he scored over 400 on his career so I decided to go for another approach. Didn't expect to Come up against a 3-2-5 at all though!
@Gio and @Mciahel Goodman are too modest to say but they were actually saving kids l/ puppies from burning buildings and that's why they couldn't vote. I say we call it 7-7 and let Chester run the penalties
In recent matches, I've been trying to go after non-standard formations mostly.
Remake Draft: 3-4-3
Reserve Draft: 3-2-3-2 (with Dalglish and Rush added in
)Three Leagues Draft: 5-3-2
Billy No Mates - Pyramid 4-3-2-1
Never stuck with the same formation in successive drafts.
With Sjor, I wanted to continue the trend and we settled on WM/3-2-5 with a False 9 striker. We were pretty confident we'll crash out in R1, so the win is all the more nicer!
Just exploring new things and keeping ourselves amused was the inspiration imo
Sorry. Busy week. I know the game is closed but will give my thoughts tomorrow after reading all the posts.
Great to see EAP/Sjor with an old-school tactical system that would work here for many reasons:
- Tostao was a collective player
- Jair Da Costa was a powerful winger able to defend a lot
- a midfield comprise of players potentially complementary
A system with wingers would have been more challenging for them.
David has also built a fantastic team and the #10 plays a big role in his offensive strategy: I guess it's not easy to sell a Mexican player in this draft!
@Šjor Bepo can't be the 'Lord' but could certainly apply for the King of the gifs position.
- Tostao was a collective player
- Jair Da Costa was a powerful winger able to defend a lot
- a midfield comprise of players potentially complementary
A system with wingers would have been more challenging for them.
David has also built a fantastic team and the #10 plays a big role in his offensive strategy: I guess it's not easy to sell a Mexican player in this draft!
@Šjor Bepo can't be the 'Lord' but could certainly apply for the King of the gifs position.
What?????
Mate, Magico is El Salvadoran! You better edit that before any Central Americans read it
That Platini, what a great Austrian legend!
Everyone fancy voting in my game. Either for or against me but it's a bit quiet atm and finishes soon
To be fair to him , magico Gonzalez does sound like the kinda Mexican guy who can get anyone across the border ...What?????
Mate, Magico is El Salvadoran! You better edit that before any Central Americans read it
That Platini, what a great Austrian legend!
What?????
Mate, Magico is El Salvadoran! You better edit that before any Central Americans read it
That Platini, what a great Austrian legend!
Now, you know why you don't have to take seriously all my posts!
We need to build a wall and make @Downcast pay for it.
don't make him pay for it, make him argue its suitability
@antohan your quick assessment would be great here, I still cant understand how Cafu gets the right side to himself and i don't win this
Mate, I'd rather not comment much as EAP/Sjor are still in this and I'd rather see how it all pans out than sticking an oar into them here and there.@antohan your quick assessment would be great here, I still cant understand how Cafu gets the right side to himself and i don't win this
It's a strange game, but I'm not surprised at the result. You lacked a bit more star quality, particularly in midfield. You also failed to abide by rule No. 1: ALWAYS USE BIG CAPS FOR PLAYER NAMES, and also the footnote to rule No.1*
*Rule No.1 footnote: names in big caps don't only highlight your players, they also cover more pitch area. The more of the pitch seems covered the more it seems you have all angles covered, so even if you have a rather narrow frontline spread your players around a bit more and, with the help of big caps, it won't be so bleeding obvious. And if you don't lack width but look like you do then you can only blame yourself for not putting a bit more TLC into your teamsheet design.
Not letting go, huh@antohan your quick assessment would be great here, I still cant understand how Cafu gets the right side to himself and i don't win this
One word, Neymar.