You really can't compare the career and financial motivations of the average Joe earning between £30-60k to footballers earning tens of millions (or in the case of these two, hundreds of millions). Most people have mortgages, kids and avocado toast that need paying for before their bodies/minds give out.
The avarice of those 2… has there ever been anything like it?
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I can't stand sesquipedalianism.
Isn’t it just “avarice”?
Kind of weird timing when Messi is about to rejoin Barcelona on a fraction of what he earns at PSG and an even smaller fraction of what he could earn in Saudi Arabia. I doubt he would have played at Barca for as long as he did if he was just after the biggest paycheck, mind.
That aside, they're both greedy but so are most footballers, even the greate you listed. It's very depressing because very few of the best qualify as role models.
And as much as it sucks that footballers willingly accept money to whitewash oppressive regimes, the same is true for so many companies. Many of the people complaining about oil money in football probably own shares of companies backed by oil money through an ETF or something like that.
Greediness isn't really what pisses me off the most. It's rather stuff like Messi giving a shit about climate change while using his private jet every other day, Neymar endorsing Bolsonaro, etc.
I mean, Messi was earning the biggest paycheck at Barcelona. A paycheck that he seeked and on top of that as if it wasn't enough, he also tried to dodge taxation.
Sure I can. Our average Joe earning that amount is rich af compared to vast numbers of people around the world. The only thing missing is the public profile.
Plus even footballers have ["insert obscene celebrity expense that's totally unnecessary according to you"] that needs paying for before their career is cut short in their mid thirties.
Doesn't mean I endorse anyone hoarding wealth. Just saying that I find it difficult to believe that are so many saintly people among us who would reject more money so easily. Especially if there are mortgages, kids and avocado toast that needs to be paid for.
I mean Beckenbauer was done for taking bribes twice in the last few years. Pele, Beckenbauer and Cruyff all went to the US for a payday. Pele was not known for his moral stances with relationships so it wouldn't be a stretch to question other areas, and the less said about Maradona's off field behaviour the better.
I think the only difference between them and Messi/Ronaldo is the rabid media hounding them and highlighting everything they get up to. Saudi Arabia's sportswashing project was a distant pipedream 40 years ago but would any of us have known if Pele went on a fully paid for trip there for some reason? Now its front page news.
Your average joe in the U.S. aged 35 cannot retire and never work a day in their life. Even if they moved to a third world country. Even if they only had a basic standard of living.
Messi on the other hand does not need to work a day in his life and can still live extremely comfortably.
Yeah, but at least he claims there were multiple times he had bigger contracts on the table and still chose Barca. Not that it made him poor, mind.
At least from what I've read, he's going to join Barca on €15-25m a year if La Liga approves it. Even if not it's not unlikely he stays in Europe.Wait... Barcelona... ?
Que? I can't keep up. He's not going S.A. then?
I didn't know there was a full comic. I'd only ever seen the last panel
gluttons, galvanised by a decade of dominance, fearing their twilight fading, grasping the hand of glad tidings, ignoring the odious pocket ‘twas dipped ‘to. unnecessary wealth, ne’er to be spent, but accumulated nonetheless. a life well lived, a purpose, never fulfilled. an emptiness. it shan’t be whole again.
Apologies, we should definitely focus on the tip of the iceberg, what was I thinking
You're correct. Avariciousness is a lexical redundancy that was invented through a grammatical error (turning an adjective into a noun by adding the suffix 'ness', forgetting that there was/is a preexisting noun from which the adjective already derived).
Sorry @Fortitude
I don’t think you appreciate just how many people wouldn’t.
They’re both quite ghoulish in chasing yet another grubby envelope full of cash.
So where does your ‘human rights’ angle come in then?
And what else is it that they are supposed to be regarding? Whatever story and glorious ending you have written for another man’s career?
Some of you criticize footballers for maximising their earning working on human right abuser, violater etc
But when it comes to them buying your football club who cares about human right violation.
Truth is we cant event forgone our love for football and turn a blind eye on principles but we ask them to turn hundreds of millions because of principles.
Hypocrisy
But when it comes to them buying your football club who cares about human right violation.
Truth is we cant event forgone our love for football and turn a blind eye on principles but we ask them to turn hundreds of millions because of principles.
Hypocrisy
This is all invented.
I somewhat agree with you, but your choice of vocabulary distracted me enough to remember those late 2000s old english memes of contemporary pop music.
"I am enamored of ample posteriors,
Furthermore I find myself unable to utter falsehoods"
"I am enamored of ample posteriors,
Furthermore I find myself unable to utter falsehoods"
Despite my mischief, I am quite curious if or where the line is drawn for quite literally the two top active earners especially considering legacy and if it is even factored (can the Argentinian do no wrong?).
There's a difference between going to a fledgling league for top dollar and going somewhere considered reprehensible because they pay the most, is there not?
I did make a point of stating how obscene amounts of money may turn most men in the boxing thread, which is why fights aren't being made - perhaps it's unfair to hold footballers to a higher standard, but the caveat is we're talking about a couple of billionaires with exponential growth here, not your average Joe, or even any boxer (not even Floyd comes close) so shouldn't it be looked at through a different lens?
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Think Glazer.
I'm perhaps enjoying your posts a little too much today. Can't keep loading smilies... you might think something untoward was happening... well, more than you usually do.
We live to learn.
Taking your word for it.
Avaricious'ness' being seen as a big word/deal was enlightening nonetheless.
Emotional damage.
I like the comparison to the likes of Cruyff and Pele. Because they went to America for the challenge.
Did either of them earn that much during their playing career? Unless I'm completely mistaken wages where completely different at the time for top players, someone like Cruijff was on less than 1 million euro per year during his peak. Which is a completely different scenario to someone that hasn't earned less than 30m-40m per year in the last 15 years.
Thank you
Thought this was a thread about one scouser suggesting to another a meal accompaniment for his chicken dish
Cruyff did. Pelé went because he was broke. Again.
Obviously not to that scale and I don’t particularly blame them but it’s just to point out that footballers have been driven by money for a long time. Why would they be any different?
I believe that the point of the OP is the scale not that the absolute idea that money isn't a motivator. There is a massive difference between someone making 20m over his career looking to double or triple that over a year and someone making a billion over their career and looking to add 200m regardless of circumstances.
I personally don't care about how much players make and where they get it, I have made that point many times in here. But I can't pretend that I don't see a difference between the highest earners in sport continuously chasing more money and people that earn 50 times less chasing a new paycheck both are wealthy but the formers are comically greedy.
@Fortitude You have my respect for trying to write with a bit of elegance, but unfortunately, you have to dumb it down for the Caf and pretend you are writing for a 5-year-old.
OP gonna have a proper meltdown when Qatar buy United.
He does have a point. How dare they work for the highest bidder? Instead they should quit work, stop washing and use their money to fund protests of the brutal human rights record of the middle east.
They should absolutely do most their human rights protests in adidas footwear and from smartphones to really sell the hypocrisy though.
He does have a point. How dare they work for the highest bidder? Instead they should quit work, stop washing and use their money to fund protests of the brutal human rights record of the middle east.
They should absolutely do most their human rights protests in adidas footwear and from smartphones to really sell the hypocrisy though.