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Manchester United sign Trent Alexander-Arnold and Jude Bellingham


Manchester United are delighted to confirm the signings of Trent Alexander-Arnold (21, and hereby known as 'Trent' in lineups) and Jude Bellingham (16) as well as a cash windfall of £40M in a deal that sees United legend Joshua Kimmich (25) go in the other direction.

"We were preparing for Tuesday's cup game against Liverpool when the Everton manager made this offer to us out of nowhere," said United manager Damien.

"It was an incredible offer to us, and one that we felt that we couldn't turn down despite having our own problems in midfield and centre back that the absence of Kimmich will just exacerbate further.

"There is a good chance this will derail us for the rest of the season, seeing such a huge seismic shift in the team's chemistry, but in the long term I think it will be worth it. We are glad to welcome Trent and Jude to the team and wish both Kimmich and Everton's manager all the best in their future careers."

This transfer sees the first of the United players involved in 'the Messi deal' back in 2017 leave the club. The infographic below shows how the deal back then has impacted upon Spurs and United and has affected deals with other teams since.

 

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Amazing deal for United for context now of the best U21 players (90+) in the GW:

Mbappe 95 - United
De Ligt 92 - Southend
Trent 92 - United
Donnarumma 91 - Southend
Havertz 91 - Southend
Sancho 91 - United
Upamecano 90 - Southend
Pulisic 90 - United
Hakimi 90 - Norwich
Aouar 90 - Cardiff
Felix 90 - Spurs
Rice 90 - Newcastle

United 4
Southend 4
Norwich 1
Cardiff 1
Spurs 1
Newcastle 1

Donnarumma
Trent De Ligt Upamecano Hakimi
Havertz Aouar
Sancho Felix Pulisic
Mbappe​
 

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Amazing deal for United for context now of the best U21 players (90+) in the GW:

Mbappe 95 - United
De Ligt 92 - Southend
Trent 92 - United
Donnarumma 91 - Southend
Havertz 91 - Southend
Sancho 91 - United
Upamecano 90 - Southend
Pulisic 90 - United
Hakimi 90 - Norwich
Aouar 90 - Cardiff
Felix 90 - Spurs
Rice 90 - Newcastle

United 4
Southend 4
Norwich 1
Cardiff 1
Spurs 1
Newcastle 1

Donnarumma
Trent De Ligt Upamecano Hakimi
Havertz Aouar
Sancho Felix Pulisic
Mbappe​
He's another one about to turn 22 though but still a nice young player along with Sancho, Mbappe and Pulisic.
 

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Before the season started, I wasn't sure whether I'd be able to get any inter-league transfers done. Now, just over a third of the way into the season I've done:

Ruben Dias (23/90 CB) IN, John Stones (25/91 CB/RB) and Santi Mina (24/89 FW) OUT
Jan Oblak (27/95 GK) IN, David De Gea (29/93 GK) and Dele Alli (24/92 CM) OUT
Trent Alexander-Arnold (21/92 RB) and Jude Bellingham (16/78 CM/RM) IN, Joshua Kimmich (25/94) OUT

Decent little rebuild - and I managed to win a bidding war.

Ramos and Kroos are the main 'problems' in my squad in that I need to replace them, but hopefully one of the young options I have can step up before they decrease.
 

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Before the season started, I wasn't sure whether I'd be able to get any inter-league transfers done. Now, just over a third of the way into the season I've done:

Ruben Dias (23/90 CB) IN, John Stones (25/91 CB/RB) and Santi Mina (24/89 FW) OUT
Jan Oblak (27/95 GK) IN, David De Gea (29/93 GK) and Dele Alli (24/92 CM) OUT
Trent Alexander-Arnold (21/92 RB) and Jude Bellingham (16/78 CM/RM) IN, Joshua Kimmich (25/94) OUT

Decent little rebuild - and I managed to win a bidding war.

Ramos and Kroos are the main 'problems' in my squad in that I need to replace them, but hopefully one of the young options I have can step up before they decrease.
Just buy De Ligt and Upamencano to replace Ramos and Aouar to replace Kroos...
 

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Now southend is back and active let's not forget the fact that even after receiving a transfer ban the powers to be still let him sign a player.
He bid after the ban expired.
 

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Hopefully greeny comes back to post in this thread again. I miss the FFP and Youth Table updates he does so well.
 

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No. Velasco joined southend after the ban was handed out.
Just got the reminder with his +6 today
No. That was the transfer that triggered the ban. Transfer done on the 7th May, ban started the 8th.
 

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Signing done the 7th May.

Transfer ban started 8th May. Signing was done before the ban happened and I think it was greeny bidding on Velasco as well as another player that triggered the ban in the first place.
 

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Guy received a transfer ban. Still had outstanding transfer (velasco) that could be cancelled but wasn't.
That's what I'm referring to.
 

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Guy received a transfer ban. Still had outstanding transfer (velasco) that could be cancelled but wasn't.
That's what I'm referring to.



Old layout shows the timestamps. According to SM, the transfer happened the day before he got the transfer ban.
 

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It's even documented on here but ok
Unfortunately I can't scroll down to May 8th on SM because i commented on it there too
Yeah, I had a look at the timestamp for the Kimmich transfer and that is way out - stupid SM.
 

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I have nothing against smiley. Even the stain is my boy even if he didn't accept me apology.

Just making sure I get the same treatment me next violation(s)
That post of Benito's you quoted was a few hours before I came on and greeny's ban was formally added to the OP. To be clear, under any circumstances, being banned then during the transfer ban putting in a fresh bid for a player and that transfer going through is not acceptable and is not what happened there. I think we addressed it at the time and there's no fresh rule breaches.
 

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That post of Benito's you quoted was a few hours before I came on and greeny's ban was formally added to the OP. To be clear, under any circumstances, being banned then during the transfer ban putting in a fresh bid for a player and that transfer going through is not acceptable and is not what happened there. I think we addressed it at the time and there's no fresh rule breaches.
So to clarify, if we accidentally make bid that hits our transfer limit we won't be punished any further than the sanctions laid out, if we don't withdraw it.
 

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So to clarify, if we accidentally make bid that hits our transfer limit we won't be punished any further than the sanctions laid out, if we don't withdraw it.
That can’t be the rule otherwise plenty of people have had incorrect bans.
 

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The bans that have happened, have happened. There will be no going back trying to give more sanctions for punishments that have been agreed at the time and I think everyone now clearly understands the rules.

If anyone accidentally makes a bid that hits their limit (emphasis on accidentally, people by now should know their own limits and the rules like the back of their hand) and are made aware of it, the expectations are the bid be withdrawn and the standard sanction be awarded. If the bid is accepted and not withdrawn, again you'll get the standard sanction unless people want to change it for future so punishment in that case is more severe, but don't think any of us want to see people leaving the league.
 

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3:1 victory away to Newcastle but once again the opposition with one shot on target gets 100% conversion.

Oblak (95)

Boateng (91) Ramos (95) Alaba (93) Gaya (91)
Eriksen (94)⚽ Kroos (95)⚽⚽⭐
Mbappe (95)➕ -- Sancho (91) -- Sterling (94)➕➕
Griezmann (95)

Subs: Pogba (93), Trent (92), Christensen (90), Zakaria (90), Kovacic (91), Goretzka (91), Dias (90)
Did not travel: Brandt (91), Elvedi (90), Pulisic (90)

Key:
⚽ = Goal
➕ = Assist
⭐ = MOTM
= Subbed off
= Subbed on


Next three games:
MD17: Darlington (H) :(
LCR4: Norwich City (A)
MD18: Sunderland (A) :(

Manchester United v Newcastle United fixtures this season

GameUtd PossNewcastle PossUtd Shots (SoT)Newcastle Shots (SoT)Utd GoalsNewcastle GoalsUtd SoT Conv.Newcastle SoT Conv.
11th June: Newcastle v Utd​
63%
37%​
26 (10)
6 (1)​
3
1​
30%​
100%
Combined
63%
37%​
26 (10)
6 (1)​
3
1​
30%​
100%
 

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The bans that have happened, have happened. There will be no going back trying to give more sanctions for punishments that have been agreed at the time and I think everyone now clearly understands the rules.

If anyone accidentally makes a bid that hits their limit (emphasis on accidentally, people by now should know their own limits and the rules like the back of their hand) and are made aware of it, the expectations are the bid be withdrawn and the standard sanction be awarded. If the bid is accepted and not withdrawn, again you'll get the standard sanction unless people want to change it for future so punishment in that case is more severe, but don't think any of us want to see people leaving the league.
So I bid on 4 guys but realistically I can only sign 2 to stay in ffp.
I get a ban. then I withdraw 2 bids. But I keep 2 bids active and sign 2 players. Even though I just received a ban.
That is what I will follow.
Or maybe I'll just sell someone else.
We'll see
 
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Lost 2:0 to Darlington. Lead down to just 9 points.

Oblak (95)

Trent (92) Ramos (95) Alaba (93) Elvedi (90)
Eriksen (94) Kroos (95)
Mbappe (95) -- Sancho (91) -- Sterling (94)
Griezmann (95)⭐

Subs: Boateng (91), Christensen (90), Gaya (91), Pogba (93), Kovacic (91), Brandt (91), Pulisic (90)
Did not travel: Brandt (91), Elvedi (90), Pulisic (90)

Key:
⚽ = Goal
➕ = Assist
⭐ = MOTM
= Subbed off
= Subbed on


Next three games:
LCR4: Norwich City (A)
MD18: Sunderland (A) :(
MD18: Cardiff City (A) :(

Manchester United v Darlington fixtures this season

GameUtd PossDarlington PossUtd Shots (SoT)Darlington Shots (SoT)Utd GoalsDarlington GoalsUtd SoT Conv.Darlington SoT Conv.
14th June: Utd v Darlington​
56%
44%​
13 (4)
9 (4)​
0​
2
0%​
50%
Combined
56%
44%​
13 (4)
9 (4)​
0​
2
0%​
50%
 

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A 4-0 win over Newcastle puts us into the top 4 with the 2nd best form in the last 6 games (despite our stupid loss).

I’d be delighted with top 4 this season but if I can get through the next game with a win 3rd or potentially even 2nd place is up for grabs.
 

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To all of the Southend transfer ban comments, let's have some common sense, his infraction was very light, a matter of minutes between him bidding on a player and him withdrawing a bid, an easy mistake to make, he didn't argue, he didn't fuss, just accepted his ban, it would be extremely harsh to be picking on the fact he didn't withdraw the bid.
Everything is relative.
 

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2:0 victory against Norwich City with my reserves. I face Aston Villa in the next round of BOTH the Cup and Shield. Great. Also: today's game was the first of FOUR consecutive away games - this is where my league advantage really dwindles.

Oblak (95)

Boateng (91) Christensen (90) Dias (90) Gaya (91)
Zakaria (90) Kovacic (91)⚽
Pulisic (90)⚽⭐ -- Goretzka (91) -- Brandt (91)
Sancho (91)➕➕

Subs: Elvedi (90), Ramos (95), Alaba (93), Pogba (93), Kroos (95), Eriksen (94), Mbappe (95)
Suspended: Griezmann (95)
Cup tied: Trent (92)
Did not travel: Sterling (94)

Key:
⚽ = Goal
➕ = Assist
⭐ = MOTM
= Subbed off
= Subbed on


Next three games:
MD18: Sunderland (A) :(
MD18: Cardiff City (A) :(
LSR4: Aston Villa (A)

Manchester United v Norwich City fixtures this season

GameUtd PossNorwich PossUtd Shots (SoT)Norwich Shots (SoT)Utd GoalsNorwich GoalsUtd SoT Conv.Norwich SoT Conv.
16th June: Norwich v Utd​
58%
42%​
12 (5)
12 (1)​
2
0​
40%
0%​
Combined
58%
42%​
12 (5)
12 (1)​
2
0​
40%
0%​
 

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West Ham lose 2-0 to Cardiff who are still in both cups and currently 4th place.

Transfer ban is doing wonders for us tactically!
 

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villa got lucky
had to play messi vvd etc to get outplayed and barely beat kabak romagna dalot etc
but i'd rather lose to villa than damien jong-un
Love you too.

Dont know how you get by with that reserve side :rolleyes:
Technically it is a strikerless team as none of the players have F(C). Much prefer yours with Dzeko up top.