I'd say Ten Hag looks as mentally damaged as any of the players. Looks completely lost at times.
This team is mentally and emotionally damaged. MUFC have PTSD
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This group of players have a soft underbelly. There is no "we refuse to lose" attitude.
This group of players have a soft underbelly. There is no "we refuse to lose" attitude.
You need owners not leeches for this squad to be gutted,unfortunately ours only care about asset value and nothing else
I think the amount of humiliations we suffered towards the end of Oles tenure has left a long term scar on the club. No other top level club let's their players or themselves go through, what we did with the number of humiliations we suffered.
The same happened with Rangnick - he tightened it up, but once city put 4 past us the PTSD hit in again.
ETH never resolved it at any point himself, and got thrashed regularly enough himself so that all of his new players got scarred with it too. I think it runs deeper than the players at this point.
I think the opposition can feel it. Liverpool fans can't wait to play us at Anfield in December - they're all so fecking excited at the thought of us turning up, it's sickening.
The same happened with Rangnick - he tightened it up, but once city put 4 past us the PTSD hit in again.
ETH never resolved it at any point himself, and got thrashed regularly enough himself so that all of his new players got scarred with it too. I think it runs deeper than the players at this point.
I think the opposition can feel it. Liverpool fans can't wait to play us at Anfield in December - they're all so fecking excited at the thought of us turning up, it's sickening.
They are and it is sickening , especially as know that game could get very messy again for us with another hammering , they don't even have to play that well. Many of our players will just crumble again once the atmosphere heats up in the stadium.
Another PTSD inducing event last night.
The fact we don't have the players or tactics to hold on to two x 2 goal leads is beyond me.
The players get scared. They see Onana chuck another one in and they think "he we go again".
The fact we don't have the players or tactics to hold on to two x 2 goal leads is beyond me.
The players get scared. They see Onana chuck another one in and they think "he we go again".
I remember fergies last game. 5-5 with west brom. Even then, we never use to shit the bed like this...
I don't think these players are scarred by losses, humiliatione or huge mistakes, they are simply used to the "no consequences" of their feck ups that it does not scare them to mess up.
Onana at this point should be benched for his own good.
Onana at this point should be benched for his own good.
He should be benched for the good of the team.
Garbage. This hard-man-players-are-soft bollocks is so utterly lazy.
And that’s just the fans…
Fans got PTSD .. its called the Onana effect..
Oh please then enlighten us.
We are playing a 415 formation with Scott McTominay in some sort of free false number ten role despite almost no ability to pass a ball.
It's terrible, terrible tactics.
The tactics are questionable, but again there is the rot that sat in where these players continue to play despite how they perform, that wouldn't be the case in top teams.
The beatings will continue
Until morale improves
Until morale improves
We need a real open heart surgery - sell 10+ senior squad members in one summer (including likes of Bruno, Rashford, Dalot, lindelof, Sancho, Martial, Maguire, McTominay, awb, Antony, Maguire, Onana) and bring in 10+ new players in one go.
to be honest, Garnacho, Hojlund, Mainoo, Shaw, Martinez are the only players in the squad I am happy to keep. We may also keep Casemiro (if he finds his legs again) for a couple years, and won't mind Pellestri, Amad to be back up players
to be honest, Garnacho, Hojlund, Mainoo, Shaw, Martinez are the only players in the squad I am happy to keep. We may also keep Casemiro (if he finds his legs again) for a couple years, and won't mind Pellestri, Amad to be back up players
We cant hold on to leads because our defence continously go missing and leave opposition players completely unmarked in our box like they did last night with the goal we conceeded.