Müller offers much more than just being good at pressing and scoring goals. There is a reason why he has insane assist numbers, too.
That's just typical Werner talk.
I'm sorry but that's nonsense. Werner's touch especially at full speed is excellent. And his ball control while dribbling is, too. Werner is incredibly difficult to defend once he's gained pace with the ball at his feet.
I almost never watch Chelsea, but those numbers are more than okay for someone playing his first season in the PL.
Especially when we are not struggling for goals (only Liverpool have scored more than us).
He hasn't scored for 9 club games now while missing absolute sitters and doing sweet feckall otherwise. As a rival fan it's great to see him start for Chelsea.
The good old youtube highlights, still the best way to judge a players technical abilities. Every single national team level player has a highlight tape on youtube, that makes him look like a worldbeater and technical prodigy. I actually watch full games and rate players based on that.
He's getting assists from out wide and our centre forwards are scoring so it's not a huge issue for me.
I have to say, you’re a strange dude. How you’ve concocted this idea about Werner running around shaking his hips and behind in the faces of fans, and clubs he apparently wants to join, is strange, to put it mildly. The whole tone is off tbh.
Yeah sorry but having pretty much watched all of your games so far he has simply failed to deliver when it mattered. As I mentioned above he only gets involved against teams which play a high line and allow him a lot of space behind hence there being no surprise in him doing well against a team like Soton. Otherwise it's always when you are already leading with him having done absolutely nothing till the point the opposition start throwing players forward again opening up space for him which is exactly what happened last night. You lead via a set piece and until the last 20 odd minutes the only thing he did was as usual miss an absolute sitter and otherwise fluffing around in non threatening positions. He has good pace and work rate but as far as his dribbling, passing, control and link up goes it's been pretty below par. I mean it's fine having that kind of contribution from an average hardworking player but surely you would want one of your primary signings to be a lot more involved and as someone who has goalscoring as one of his main assets not go 9 odd games without a single goal.
Man, this is a sample set of almost a hundred goals. It's not a selective collection but a wholistic one. And this video doesn't even include highlights that didn't lead to a goal or even assists.
Weak comparison as in the one being compared with hardly setting the world alight himself. Both of them would be termed disappointing this season.
You obviously have your opinion about him and I have mine. The way this discussion is going neither one will change their stance, so for me this one is over.
Come on, that's a cheap cop out. You claimed that he's got nothing except for pace and I provided you with evidence to the contrary. Do you really think his tempo dribbling and first touch at pace is average despite the footage I showed? This isn't a once in a while occurence, he scored and assisted so many goals that way. Werner actually has quite a number of stunning solo goals speaking for him.
When I listen to Werner speak about how he plays, he almost describes a hybrid role containing bits of wide forward, attacking mid and striker. He played in a very specific system in Leipzig and so far Lampard seems to have shoved him out wide to either fill in for injured players or accommodate a more conventional CF in the 433. He also happens to just be going through a rough period at the moment. From what Zehner was saying last summer, he seems to be a very streaky player who can go a period without scoring, then catch fire.
To he fair hes judging what he sees by watching full games, I cant see how YouTube clips is a better way of evaluating him?
That would be a perfectly valid and reasonable argument with 99.9999% of people who watch football, but you've happened to put it across to someone who actually rates Lukaku as a world class striker.
You really shouldn't speak about reasonable arguments. I'm not talking about dating Megan Fox or travelling to Mars either.That would be a perfectly valid and reasonable argument with 99.9999% of people who watch football, but you've happened to put it across to someone who actually rates Lukaku as a world class striker.
I'm obviously not judging him on YouTube-Videos since I've seen hours of Werner live. But how do you want me to prodive evidence of a player's technical abilities if not through actual footage? I mean, if I'd say Rashford is a pure pace merchant (which he isn't, obviously) and was totally ignorant to all of your arguments, how would you prove me wrong if not through video material?
Lukaku’s mum is on the forum?That would be a perfectly valid and reasonable argument with 99.9999% of people who watch football, but you've happened to put it across to someone who actually rates Lukaku as a world class striker.
That would be a perfectly valid and reasonable argument with 99.9999% of people who watch football, but you've happened to put it across to someone who actually rates Lukaku as a world class striker.
IIRC many have expected him to play on the wing before he joins. He lacks the quality to play as a lone striker and he never looks capable of leading the line.
Yep, and he still outperformed his xG for that season. One major positive about him is his workrate and energy doesn't stop even if his finishing is off, so he creates many chances for himself with his movement.
In 20 odd games for Chelsea so far, he's shown quite an impressive knack for creating chances or getting into goal scoring positions himself despite clearly having a rough time of it when it comes to finishing chances. He can look quite clunky and uncoordinated sometimes but 14 goals and assists in 21 games during what many would describe as an underwhelming start to the season shows him in a really good light for me.
Werner has been available for a while but Bayern didnt just want him, Below was the reason Bayern did not sign him.
Bayern don't want to replace Lewandowski with Werner? Of course they don't, he's the best player in the world, they wouldn't swap him for Ronaldo or Messi either!
Bayern was not going to replace Lewandoski, Werner would have been a wing forward option opposite Gnabry but Sane was picked over him because at Bayern you won't get a lot of space to run into, but have to manage the tiny spaces, Werner is always more comfortable when he has space to run into
The podcast mentioned that Flick wanted Werner, so whichever way he was going to be played, Flick preferred to have him than Sane.
When you watch full games normally though are you particularly focusing on one player? Personally I can watch matches and matches where someone is featured and only really notice oppo players if they do something to particularly stand out.
