U21s: Elite Group Stage

gooDevil · Dec 10, 2012

Congratulations to the Manchester United Under-21 team, who today won promotion into the Elite Group Stage (top group) of the inaugural season of the Barclays U21 Premier League!

Joining us will be:

Liverpool
Arsenal
Tottenham
West Ham
West Brom
Wolverhampton
Southampton

Should be quite a challenge.

BARCLAYS UNDER-21 PREMIER LEAGUE ELITE GROUP

Code:

| TEAMS                  | Games | Won | Draw | Loss | GF  | GA  | Points |

[COLOR="Green"]| MANCHESTER UNITED      |   -   |  -  |  -   |  -   |  -  |  -  |   -    |
| TOTTENHAM              |   -   |  -  |  -   |  -   |  -  |  -  |   -    |
| LIVERPOOL              |   -   |  -  |  -   |  -   |  -  |  -  |   -    |[/COLOR]
| ARSENAL                |   -   |  -  |  -   |  -   |  -  |  -  |   -    |
| WEST HAM               |   -   |  -  |  -   |  -   |  -  |  -  |   -    |
| WEST BROM              |   -   |  -  |  -   |  -   |  -  |  -  |   -    |
| WOLVERHAMPTON          |   -   |  -  |  -   |  -   |  -  |  -  |   -    |
| SOUTHAMPTON            |   -   |  -  |  -   |  -   |  -  |  -  |   -    |

(I've also added this chart to the Reserves Stats page where I'll keep it updated)

The top three teams go through to the Knockout Stage Semifinal.
In the semifinal the first placed team in the Elite group will play the winner of the game between the winners of Qualification Group 1 and 2.

The second and third place teams in the Elite Group will play each other in the other semifinal.

BARCLAYS UNDER-21 PREMIER LEAGUE QUALIFICATION GROUP TIER 1

Code:

| TEAMS                  | Games | Won | Draw | Loss | GF  | GA  | Points |

[COLOR="Green"]| ASTON VILLA            |   -   |  -  |  -   |  -   |  -  |  -  |   -    |[/COLOR]
| BLACKBURN              |   -   |  -  |  -   |  -   |  -  |  -  |   -    |
| CHELSEA                |   -   |  -  |  -   |  -   |  -  |  -  |   -    |
| EVERTON                |   -   |  -  |  -   |  -   |  -  |  -  |   -    |
| FULHAM                 |   -   |  -  |  -   |  -   |  -  |  -  |   -    |
| MIDDLESBROUGH          |   -   |  -  |  -   |  -   |  -  |  -  |   -    |
| SUNDERLAND             |   -   |  -  |  -   |  -   |  -  |  -  |   -    |

BARCLAYS UNDER-21 PREMIER LEAGUE QUALIFICATION GROUP TIER 2

Code:

| TEAMS                  | Games | Won | Draw | Loss | GF  | GA  | Points |

[COLOR="Green"]| BOLTON                 |   -   |  -  |  -   |  -   |  -  |  -  |   -    |[/COLOR]
| CRYSTAL PALACE         |   -   |  -  |  -   |  -   |  -  |  -  |   -    |
| MANCHESTER CITY        |   -   |  -  |  -   |  -   |  -  |  -  |   -    |
| NEWCASTLE              |   -   |  -  |  -   |  -   |  -  |  -  |   -    |
| NORWICH                |   -   |  -  |  -   |  -   |  -  |  -  |   -    |
| READING                |   -   |  -  |  -   |  -   |  -  |  -  |   -    |
| STOKE CITY             |   -   |  -  |  -   |  -   |  -  |  -  |   -    |

The winners of these two qualification groups play each other in a play-off match, the winner goes into the semi-final against the Elite Group Stage winner.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012–13_Professional_Development_League_1

Jimy_Hills_Chin · Dec 10, 2012

gooDevil said:
Should be quite a challenge.

Indeed!

It makes U21 football a hell of a lot more exciting though.

Penny · Dec 18, 2012

When is the Elite League gonna starts? what team Man Utd sent for this tourney so far? The full u21 team or u19 team members mostly to again receive football education only??

vanthaman · Dec 18, 2012

Penny said:
When is the Elite League gonna starts? what team Man Utd sent for this tourney so far? The full u21 team or u19 team members mostly to again receive football education only??

The u21 is the reserve league

Sally Cinnamon · Dec 18, 2012

Penny said:
When is the Elite League gonna starts? what team Man Utd sent for this tourney so far? The full u21 team or u19 team members mostly to again receive football education only??

wat

De Selby · Dec 18, 2012

Where are City's Elite Development Squad?

Surely this would be the perfect stage to showcase their talents?

KingEric7 · Dec 18, 2012

Not elite enough....

gooDevil · Dec 18, 2012

De Selby said:
Where are City's Elite Development Squad?

Surely this would be the perfect stage to showcase their talents?

They're in qualification group 2, the lowest group. They managed 1 win, 7 draws and 4 losses for 10 points and tied for last place in their division.

Their U18 team was 2nd to last in their division.

gooDevil · Dec 18, 2012

Also, Southampton won their last game and made into the Elite Group.

The other group members are listed here.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012–13_Professional_Development_League_1

BARCLAYS UNDER-21 PREMIER LEAGUE QUALIFICATION GROUP TIER 1

Code:

| TEAMS                  | Games | Won | Draw | Loss | GF  | GA  | Points |

[COLOR="Green"]| ASTON VILLA            |   -   |  -  |  -   |  -   |  -  |  -  |   -    |[/COLOR]
| BLACKBURN              |   -   |  -  |  -   |  -   |  -  |  -  |   -    |
| CHELSEA                |   -   |  -  |  -   |  -   |  -  |  -  |   -    |
| EVERTON                |   -   |  -  |  -   |  -   |  -  |  -  |   -    |
| FULHAM                 |   -   |  -  |  -   |  -   |  -  |  -  |   -    |
| MIDDLESBROUGH          |   -   |  -  |  -   |  -   |  -  |  -  |   -    |
| SUNDERLAND             |   -   |  -  |  -   |  -   |  -  |  -  |   -    |

BARCLAYS UNDER-21 PREMIER LEAGUE QUALIFICATION GROUP TIER 2

Code:

| TEAMS                  | Games | Won | Draw | Loss | GF  | GA  | Points |

[COLOR="Green"]| BOLTON                 |   -   |  -  |  -   |  -   |  -  |  -  |   -    |[/COLOR]
| CRYSTAL PALACE         |   -   |  -  |  -   |  -   |  -  |  -  |   -    |
| MANCHESTER CITY        |   -   |  -  |  -   |  -   |  -  |  -  |   -    |
| NEWCASTLE              |   -   |  -  |  -   |  -   |  -  |  -  |   -    |
| NORWICH                |   -   |  -  |  -   |  -   |  -  |  -  |   -    |
| READING                |   -   |  -  |  -   |  -   |  -  |  -  |   -    |
| STOKE CITY             |   -   |  -  |  -   |  -   |  -  |  -  |   -    |

The winners of these two qualification groups play each other in a play-off match, the winner goes into the semi-final against the Elite Group Stage winner.

londonredmaniac · Dec 18, 2012

gooDevil said:
Congratulations to the Manchester United Under-21 team, who today won promotion into the Elite Group Stage (top group) of the inaugural season of the Barclays U21 Premier League!

Joining us will be:

Liverpool
Arsenal
Tottenham
West Ham
West Brom
Wolverhampton
Southampton

Should be quite a challenge.

BARCLAYS UNDER-21 PREMIER LEAGUE ELITE GROUP

Code:

| TEAMS | Games | Won | Draw | Loss | GF | GA | Points | | MANCHESTER UNITED | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | | TOTTENHAM | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | | LIVERPOOL | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | | ARSENAL | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | | WEST HAM | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | | WEST BROM | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | | WOLVERHAMPTON | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | | SOUTHAMPTON | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |

The top three teams go through to the Knockout Stage Semifinal.

In the semifinal the first placed team in the Elite group will play the winner of the game between the winners of Qualification Group 1 and 2.

The second and third place teams in the Elite Group will play each other in the other semifinal.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012–13_Professional_Development_League_1

I've also added this chart to the Reserves Stats page where I'll keep it updated.

So hang on....

The winner of the second tier league and the third tier league play each other for the right to play an Elite Group winner and possibly go on to win the whole thing despite not being good enough to get into the Elite Group in the first place???

What is this feckery???

gooDevil · Dec 18, 2012

Yep. I guess it's to give the teams who didn't make the Elite Group something to play for in all these matches that everyone will be playing.

londonredmaniac · Dec 18, 2012

gooDevil said:
Yep. I guess it's to give the teams who didn't make the Elite Group something to play for in all these matches that everyone will be playing.

Hmmm. Makes a complete nonsense of it for me. Nothing to stop the two other leagues having their own final stage games.

Utterly bizarre in every way :houllier:

gooDevil · Dec 18, 2012

londonredmaniac said:
Hmmm. Makes a complete nonsense of it for me. Nothing to stop the two other leagues having their own final stage games.

Utterly bizarre in every way

I have to admit that I've never seen a tournament set up quite like this, in any sport.

They could certainly contest another trophy among Tier 1 and 2, and even play the winner of the Elite Group for a sort of Cup Winner's Cup.

Hernandez - BFA · Dec 18, 2012

So when's United's first game in the Elite group?

londonredmaniac · Dec 18, 2012

gooDevil said:
I have to admit that I've never seen a tournament set up quite like this, in any sport.

They could certainly contest another trophy among Tier 1 and 2, and even play the winner of the Elite Group for a sort of Cup Winner's Cup.

Exactly. Spot on.

What absolute muppet decided this was a good idea? Utter feckwittery.

gooDevil · Dec 18, 2012

Sounds like something a kindergarten teacher would make up, so that everyone still has a chance to feel good.

londonredmaniac · Dec 18, 2012

gooDevil said:
Sounds like something a kindergarten teacher would make up, so that everyone still has a chance to feel good.

Yeah...oh come on, they're shite...let them have another go.

Mentalists.

gooDevil · Jan 5, 2013

Anyone see the schedule for the elite group stage yet? City's schedule for their group games has been released.

http://www.mcfc.co.uk/News/EDS-news/2013/City-EDS-2013-fixtures-announced

gooDevil · Jan 7, 2013

Okay, I found it!

First match is Monday, the 14th of January, United v West Ham, played at Altrincham FC, 7pm.

I'll list the rest in the reserve stats thread.

http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/news/news/barclays-u21-second-phase-preview-070113.html

rcoobc · Jan 7, 2013

Have they announced what games will be at Old Trafford?

backofthenet · Jan 7, 2013

The listing on the United home page isn't showing any home games as being at Old Trafford yet... but the Southampton and Liverpool games are listed as TBC, so I would assume that they are the ones.

gooDevil · Jan 7, 2013

Code:

| 14-01, 19:00 | West Ham U21s       | H | Elite Group 1         |    :    |
| 21-01, 19:00 | Wolverhampton U21s  | A | Elite Group 2         |    :    |
| 25-01, 19:00 | West Brom U21s      | H | Elite Group 3         |    :    |
| 02-02, 13:00 | Southampton U21s    | A | Elite Group 4         |    :    |
| 11-02, 19:00 | Arsenal U21s        | H | Elite Group 5         |    :    |
| 18-02, 19:00 | Tottenham U21s      | H | Elite Group 6         |    :    |
| 25-02, 14:00 | Liverpool U21s      | A | Elite Group 7         |    :    |
| 01-03, 19:00 | West Ham U21s       | A | Elite Group 8         |    :    |
| 11-03, 19:00 | Wolverhampton U21s  | H | Elite Group 9         |    :    |
| 17-03, 14:00 | West Brom U21s      | A | Elite Group 10        |    :    |
| 03-04, 19:00 | Arsenal U21s        | A | Elite Group 11        |    :    |
| 08-04, 19:00 | Southampton U21s    | H | Elite Group 12        |    :    |
| 15-04, 13:00 | Tottenham U21s      | A | Elite Group 13        |    :    |
| 22-04, 19:00 | Liverpool U21s      | H | Elite Group 14        |    :    |

gooDevil · Jan 7, 2013

backofthenet said:
The listing on the United home page isn't showing any home games as being at Old Trafford yet... but the Southampton and Liverpool games are listed as TBC, so I would assume that they are the ones.

All but the Southampton and Liverpool matches are listed as being played at Altringham FC, i.e. Moss Lane, capacity 6,085 (1,154 seated).

I'd guess the idea is that those two, if qualification is not yet certain, will indeed be played at OT.

dr.twinny · Jan 7, 2013

gooDevil said:

Code:

| 14-01, 19:00 | West Ham U21s       | H | Elite Group 1         |    :    |
| 21-01, 19:00 | Wolverhampton U21s  | A | Elite Group 2         |    :    |
| 25-01, 19:00 | West Brom U21s      | H | Elite Group 3         |    :    |
| 02-02, 13:00 | Southampton U21s    | A | Elite Group 4         |    :    |
| 11-02, 19:00 | Arsenal U21s        | H | Elite Group 5         |    :    |
| 18-02, 19:00 | Tottenham U21s      | H | Elite Group 6         |    :    |
| 25-02, 14:00 | Liverpool U21s      | A | Elite Group 7         |    :    |
| 01-03, 19:00 | West Ham U21s       | A | Elite Group 8         |    :    |
| 11-03, 19:00 | Wolverhampton U21s  | H | Elite Group 9         |    :    |
| 17-03, 14:00 | West Brom U21s      | A | Elite Group 10        |    :    |
| 03-04, 19:00 | Arsenal U21s        | A | Elite Group 11        |    :    |
| 08-04, 19:00 | Southampton U21s    | H | Elite Group 12        |    :    |
| 15-04, 13:00 | Tottenham U21s      | A | Elite Group 13        |    :    |
| 22-04, 19:00 | Liverpool U21s      | H | Elite Group 14        |    :    |

Great work gooDevil.

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