Utd Worst XI Post-Fergie

groovyalbert

it's a mute point
Joined
Feb 14, 2013
Messages
9,751
Location
London
Next season will be 10 years since the great man left us sitting at the top of English football. Despite the writing being on the wall that a shift in power was taking place even then, few could say they were expecting the next decade to be so bad.

Yes, there was the odd second-rate trophy and a spattering of distant 2nd place finishes, but from what we were used to it's been a pretty appalling decade for the club.

So, what better way to mark this than a run through of the worst XI - plus subs and managers - we've been graced with since then! On the back of (another) derby humiliation, this seems fitting.

GK - Valdes (Free): granted, the keeper spot has been the most settled since 12/13, but Valdes' lack of professionalism despite his reputation spoke of the burgeoning culture at the club.

RB - AWB (£50m): exciting signing that has nose-dived. Not suited to the modern game and one we seemingly can't shift from the books
CB - Maguire (£78m): most expensive CB ever and now a disaster waiting to happen. Was decent for ~18months but good god is he bad now. Embarrassing all round.
CB - Jones (£16.5m): not a post-Fergie signing, but he's been rewarded 2 new contracts in the last 9 years. He's played 6 league games since his last contract was awarded 3 years ago.
LB - Rojo (£16m): rash, reckless and injury prone. Somehow a **** hero. Moreover a crap signing.

CM - Van de Beek (£35m): the only big-money signing made during a summer where money needed to be spent and positions filled, he has been non-existent ever since.
CM - Schneiderlin (£31.5m): never a United player, and his career since has more than proved this. Senseless signing.

RW - Sancho (£76.5m): hope remains, but this guy looks like he doesn't particularly care and that the big-money move here was success enough. Shame. Not cut for the EPL.
CAM - Di Maria (£67.5m): club record transfer fee on a player who didn't want to move. Started well, ended disastrously in every possible sense.
LW - Sanchez (£30m): is there anything more to say about this one? Horrific signing that couldn't have gone any worse.

ST - Lukaku (£76m): harder position to fill than midfield and defence. Had a good season then it collapsed. Poor attitude and technique. At least we didn't lose too much on him.

Subs (special mentions): Depay - not ready for the switch. Schweinsteiger - should never have passed the medical. Pogba - never consistently met expectations, most expensive player ever. Fellaini - did his best but was the signing that kicked-off the decline. Darmian - another below-par player who overstayed his welcome.

Manager - Moyes: this is actually tough to choose. Our two worst managers (Moyes and Ole) can hardly be blamed for jumping at the chance to take up a role that they weren't qualified for. In a way, more should have been demanded from the likes of Jose and LvG. But from a managerial stand-point - and given he was working with a title winning team - Moyes has to take it. But it should be mentioned that behind every failed manager is the board, and they should be the ones to bear the brunt of all the above failures. Above all else, the inability to attract the top managers who eventually came to the league and had success is the worst indictment of how the club has been run.

Hopefully things have changed since ETH, but the above should highlight just how atrociously our club has been managed from the top-down in the last decade. No wonder we're as far behind the best as we currently are. The fact that 5 of the starting XI are still at the club shows how much more work is needed. For the record, the above cost a little shy of half a billion GBP!
 

Skills

Snitch
Joined
Jan 17, 2012
Messages
42,140
Valdes

Fosu Mensah
Tyler Blackett
Paddy McNair
Brandon Williams

McTominay
Schneiderlin
Donny Van De Beek

Memphis
Sanchez
Rooney
 

EricEricDjembaDjemba

New Member
Newbie
Joined
Feb 17, 2015
Messages
70
Sancho? Really? How has he looked like he hasn't cared? His performances this season have already eclipsed his whole of last season, and it feels like there's a couple more gears he can hit. Rest of the list is pretty spot on, but that one is a headscratcher
 

iHicksy

Full Member
Joined
Sep 23, 2014
Messages
1,861
Sanchez - ------------Ighalo --------------------- Miki

----------------Schneiderlin - Schweinsteiger ----------

Fosu Mensah - Tyler Blackett - Paddy McNair - Darmian

--------------------------Lee Grant-----------------------------
 

Offside

Euro 2016 sweepstake winner
Joined
Jun 9, 2012
Messages
26,795
Location
London
Valdes

Varela
Blackett
Love
Borthwick-Jackson

Scheniderlin
VDB
Pereria

Di Maria
Falcao
Sanchez
 

KiD MoYeS

Good Craig got his c'nuppins
Joined
Feb 1, 2010
Messages
33,039
Location
Love is Blind
Wan-Bissaka
Maguire
Lindelof
Darmain

Schweinsteiger
Schneiderlin
van de Beek

Sanchez
Falcao
Di Maria

Goalkeeper can be anyone, de Gea has been unchanged for a decade. This XI has been most disappointing in terms of expectation and cost.
 

roonster09

Hercule Poirot of the scouting world
Scout
Joined
May 10, 2009
Messages
36,824
Valdes

Darmian
Maguire/Bailly
Lindelof
Rojo

Schneiderlin
Schweinsteiger
De Beek

Mkhi
Falcao
Sanchez

Going with players who were signed for decent money and came up with good reputation/expectation.
 

bosnian_red

Worst scout to ever exist
Joined
Aug 13, 2011
Messages
58,164
Location
Canada
I feel like you made this thread just to put Sancho in it. Which is obviously nonsense.
 

WeePat

Full Member
Joined
Apr 13, 2015
Messages
17,543
Supports
Chelsea
Feck me I forgot Valdes was ever at United.
 

Scandi Red

Hates Music.
Joined
Sep 25, 2022
Messages
4,796
Is it worst signings or worst performances? And if it's the latter are we going by absolute lows or overall damage?

Rooney is a United legend, but he was awful under Van Gaal and Mourinho. He should have been replaced at least 2 years earlier. But he was of course not worse than Lingard and Pereira for that 6 month period where we had to rotate between them. It was like playing with 10 men in a 4-4-1 formation.

Schneiderlin and Van De Beek have been terrible central midfield signings, but they barely play(ed) so they haven't really done any major damage. I'd argue that Pogba's inconsistencies have had a much worse effect. Then again his highs also occasionally raised the team, so it's hard to pinpoint him.

Martial cost an absolute fortune for the time. I don't know how inflation works in football, but surely his price tag would be the equivalent of 80 million or something in today's money? That is absurd for a teenager who almost no one had heard about. Then again we have a terrible record with offensive signings as well, so Martial is funnily enough one of our highlights. I think Zlatan is the only attacking signing post-Fergie who was clearly better and he only stayed for a year.

Overall I think you are onto something with your starting eleven, @groovyalbert. I don't agree on Sancho, though. I also think Fellaini's dishonorable mention is a bit harsh.
 

Lewnited

Full Member
Joined
Jan 27, 2017
Messages
894
Next season will be 10 years since the great man left us sitting at the top of English football. Despite the writing being on the wall that a shift in power was taking place even then, few could say they were expecting the next decade to be so bad.

Yes, there was the odd second-rate trophy and a spattering of distant 2nd place finishes, but from what we were used to it's been a pretty appalling decade for the club.

So, what better way to mark this than a run through of the worst XI - plus subs and managers - we've been graced with since then! On the back of (another) derby humiliation, this seems fitting.

GK - Valdes (Free): granted, the keeper spot has been the most settled since 12/13, but Valdes' lack of professionalism despite his reputation spoke of the burgeoning culture at the club.

RB - AWB (£50m): exciting signing that has nose-dived. Not suited to the modern game and one we seemingly can't shift from the books
CB - Maguire (£78m): most expensive CB ever and now a disaster waiting to happen. Was decent for ~18months but good god is he bad now. Embarrassing all round.
CB - Jones (£16.5m): not a post-Fergie signing, but he's been rewarded 2 new contracts in the last 9 years. He's played 6 league games since his last contract was awarded 3 years ago.
LB - Rojo (£16m): rash, reckless and injury prone. Somehow a **** hero. Moreover a crap signing.

CM - Van de Beek (£35m): the only big-money signing made during a summer where money needed to be spent and positions filled, he has been non-existent ever since.
CM - Schneiderlin (£31.5m): never a United player, and his career since has more than proved this. Senseless signing.

RW - Sancho (£76.5m): hope remains, but this guy looks like he doesn't particularly care and that the big-money move here was success enough. Shame. Not cut for the EPL.
CAM - Di Maria (£67.5m): club record transfer fee on a player who didn't want to move. Started well, ended disastrously in every possible sense.
LW - Sanchez (£30m): is there anything more to say about this one? Horrific signing that couldn't have gone any worse.

ST - Lukaku (£76m): harder position to fill than midfield and defence. Had a good season then it collapsed. Poor attitude and technique. At least we didn't lose too much on him.

Subs (special mentions): Depay - not ready for the switch. Schweinsteiger - should never have passed the medical. Pogba - never consistently met expectations, most expensive player ever. Fellaini - did his best but was the signing that kicked-off the decline. Darmian - another below-par player who overstayed his welcome.

Manager - Moyes: this is actually tough to choose. Our two worst managers (Moyes and Ole) can hardly be blamed for jumping at the chance to take up a role that they weren't qualified for. In a way, more should have been demanded from the likes of Jose and LvG. But from a managerial stand-point - and given he was working with a title winning team - Moyes has to take it. But it should be mentioned that behind every failed manager is the board, and they should be the ones to bear the brunt of all the above failures. Above all else, the inability to attract the top managers who eventually came to the league and had success is the worst indictment of how the club has been run.

Hopefully things have changed since ETH, but the above should highlight just how atrociously our club has been managed from the top-down in the last decade. No wonder we're as far behind the best as we currently are. The fact that 5 of the starting XI are still at the club shows how much more work is needed. For the record, the above cost a little shy of half a billion GBP!
I don't feel like that's actually a worst 11... How do players like Borthwick-Jackson, Blackett or Falcao escape it for example? Even Rooney and possibly RvP post Fergie were worse than some of the players you mentioned.
Lukaku scored 27 goals in his first season for us while Di Maria put up 4 goals and 12 assists. Maguire and AWB were both mainstays in a team that came 3rd followed by 2nd. This is closer to a 'poor buys 11' than anything else
 

Tom Van Persie

No relation
Joined
Dec 12, 2012
Messages
24,802
Yeah that looks more like a team of disappointments rather than the actual worst players to play for United post Fergie.
 

TheReligion

Abusive
Joined
Nov 22, 2006
Messages
51,492
Location
Manchester
Next season will be 10 years since the great man left us sitting at the top of English football. Despite the writing being on the wall that a shift in power was taking place even then, few could say they were expecting the next decade to be so bad.

Yes, there was the odd second-rate trophy and a spattering of distant 2nd place finishes, but from what we were used to it's been a pretty appalling decade for the club.

So, what better way to mark this than a run through of the worst XI - plus subs and managers - we've been graced with since then! On the back of (another) derby humiliation, this seems fitting.

GK - Valdes (Free): granted, the keeper spot has been the most settled since 12/13, but Valdes' lack of professionalism despite his reputation spoke of the burgeoning culture at the club.

RB - AWB (£50m): exciting signing that has nose-dived. Not suited to the modern game and one we seemingly can't shift from the books
CB - Maguire (£78m): most expensive CB ever and now a disaster waiting to happen. Was decent for ~18months but good god is he bad now. Embarrassing all round.
CB - Jones (£16.5m): not a post-Fergie signing, but he's been rewarded 2 new contracts in the last 9 years. He's played 6 league games since his last contract was awarded 3 years ago.
LB - Rojo (£16m): rash, reckless and injury prone. Somehow a **** hero. Moreover a crap signing.

CM - Van de Beek (£35m): the only big-money signing made during a summer where money needed to be spent and positions filled, he has been non-existent ever since.
CM - Schneiderlin (£31.5m): never a United player, and his career since has more than proved this. Senseless signing.

RW - Sancho (£76.5m): hope remains, but this guy looks like he doesn't particularly care and that the big-money move here was success enough. Shame. Not cut for the EPL.
CAM - Di Maria (£67.5m): club record transfer fee on a player who didn't want to move. Started well, ended disastrously in every possible sense.
LW - Sanchez (£30m): is there anything more to say about this one? Horrific signing that couldn't have gone any worse.

ST - Lukaku (£76m): harder position to fill than midfield and defence. Had a good season then it collapsed. Poor attitude and technique. At least we didn't lose too much on him.

Subs (special mentions): Depay - not ready for the switch. Schweinsteiger - should never have passed the medical. Pogba - never consistently met expectations, most expensive player ever. Fellaini - did his best but was the signing that kicked-off the decline. Darmian - another below-par player who overstayed his welcome.

Manager - Moyes: this is actually tough to choose. Our two worst managers (Moyes and Ole) can hardly be blamed for jumping at the chance to take up a role that they weren't qualified for. In a way, more should have been demanded from the likes of Jose and LvG. But from a managerial stand-point - and given he was working with a title winning team - Moyes has to take it. But it should be mentioned that behind every failed manager is the board, and they should be the ones to bear the brunt of all the above failures. Above all else, the inability to attract the top managers who eventually came to the league and had success is the worst indictment of how the club has been run.

Hopefully things have changed since ETH, but the above should highlight just how atrociously our club has been managed from the top-down in the last decade. No wonder we're as far behind the best as we currently are. The fact that 5 of the starting XI are still at the club shows how much more work is needed. For the record, the above cost a little shy of half a billion GBP!
Outrageous to put Sancho on that list.

Disgusting infact
 

Scandi Red

Hates Music.
Joined
Sep 25, 2022
Messages
4,796
Yeah that looks more like a team of disappointments rather than the actual worst players to play for United post Fergie.
Also, is it fair to compare a poor player who starts 5 games with one who starts 50? I think this should be taken into consideration as well.
 

anant

Correctly predicted Italy to win Euro 2020
Joined
Feb 28, 2015
Messages
8,260
Limiting to only players we signed:

Valdes
Darmian-Bailly-Rojo-Telles
Schneiderlin-Mkhi (I know he cant be counted as a CM, but attackers have been that bad)
Depay-ADM--Sanchez
Falcao

One can quite easily put players like Varela, Falcao, VdB, Schweinsteiger, Pogba, Dalot (before this season), AWB & Maguire (since last season), potentially Sancho, Lukaku and the likes
 

Sea-Cow

Full Member
Joined
Nov 28, 2015
Messages
1,602
Sancho? Really? How has he looked like he hasn't cared? His performances this season have already eclipsed his whole of last season, and it feels like there's a couple more gears he can hit. Rest of the list is pretty spot on, but that one is a headscratcher
One can easily come to this conclusion by looking at him in the 60th minute of games. Without fail he is gassed by this point and completely ineffective. And its not as if he is tearing around like a madman leading up to that point!

He just had a month long break, because he of course is nowhere near getting picked for England. Did it look to you like he spent that month really dedicating himself to his fitness? Did it look like he is motivated to prove Southgate wrong and earn his spot?

And to your point that his performances this season already bettering last season... That is true, but did you see his performances and stats last year? He didn't exactly set a high bar.
 

Sea-Cow

Full Member
Joined
Nov 28, 2015
Messages
1,602
Valdes

Varela
Blackett
Love
Borthwick-Jackson

Scheniderlin
VDB
Pereria

Di Maria
Falcao
Sanchez
Haha Man I honestly thought Varela was going to be our next Rafael. He had a great cross against Arsenal that Rashford put away! He was quick and determined!

Then he was embarrassed at home by Coutinho and he disappeared.
 

IceManFtw

New Member
Newbie
Joined
Apr 20, 2022
Messages
42
Don't think it's fair to put Sancho there, he has been one of the few bright sparks this season
 

Trezeguet17

New Member
Newbie
Joined
Mar 12, 2019
Messages
317
Even tough we had worse players in the last 10 years than him, for me Fellaini was the symbol of everything that was going wrong at our club and like you wrote in the OP his signing kicked off the decline.
It sounds harsh and is also a bit unfair since he, unlike other signings, at least tried to show some fight but I hated every second he was on the pitch wearing our jersey
 

el3mel

New Member
Joined
Oct 23, 2016
Messages
43,736
Location
Egypt
Are you seriously choosing Lukaku as our worst striker post Ferguson ahead of someone like Falcao ?
 

Sandikan

aka sex on the beach
Joined
Mar 14, 2011
Messages
53,563
Sanchez - ------------Ighalo --------------------- Miki

----------------Schneiderlin - Schweinsteiger ----------

Fosu Mensah - Tyler Blackett - Paddy McNair - Darmian

--------------------------Lee Grant-----------------------------
I don't think the Schmidfield wasn't that bad, just average.

DVB certainly gets in above both.

Defence takes some beating. Maybe Borthwick Jackson keeps Darmian out, who again wasn't "that" bad, but was just average.
The 4 youngsters wit my suggestion were simply nowhere near the level needed.

Even Ighalo first season scored a few goals in his few run outs.
 

Sandikan

aka sex on the beach
Joined
Mar 14, 2011
Messages
53,563
Are you seriously choosing Lukaku as our worst striker post Ferguson ahead of someone like Falcao ?
It's a different question he's answering - who has been most disappointing versus expectation /fee. Which Lukaku would be a contender, although he did have a goal hungry first season.
 

el3mel

New Member
Joined
Oct 23, 2016
Messages
43,736
Location
Egypt
It's a different question he's answering - who has been most disappointing versus expectation /fee. Which Lukaku would be a contender, although he did have a goal hungry first season.
Where did you get that from ? He's clearly talking about our worst players/manager in the opening thread. I don't see anything about "disappointment".

So, what better way to mark this than a run through of the worst XI - plus subs and managers - we've been graced with since then! On the back of (another) derby humiliation, this seems fitting.
If it's the most disappointing versus expectations then he would have chosen Mourinho as the manager and not Moyes.

Falcao is easily our worst striker signing post Ferguson.
 

Sandikan

aka sex on the beach
Joined
Mar 14, 2011
Messages
53,563
Where did you get that from ? He's clearly talking about our worst players/manager in the opening thread. I don't see anything about "disappointment".



If it's the most disappointing versus expectations then he would have chosen Mourinho as the manager and not Moyes.

Falcao is easily our worst striker signing post Ferguson.
I hadn't seen it was the OP mentioning Lukaku.

But re-reading his post he's done a horrible mix of clearly disappointing versus expectations selections, like Lukaku, Sancho and Di Maria.
No-one could possibly argue successfully that we haven't had worst players in those positions.
 

tomaldinho1

Full Member
Joined
Nov 26, 2015
Messages
18,113
----------------------------------Falcao - Cavani-------------------------------
Sanchez ---------------------------------------------------------------Mhki
------------------------------ Pogba ----- Schneirderlin ------------------
Telles -------- Rojo ------------------------- Maguire ------- Darmian
------------------------------------- Valdes ----------------------------------------

This would be my worst, a combination of players I felt massively let us down, were mercenaries or simply weren't good enough. That back four protected by that midfield gives me the heebie-jeebies with two ghosts up top.
 

Grylte

"nothing wrong with some friendly incest, bro"
Joined
Jul 22, 2014
Messages
14,067
This would be my worst, a combination of players I felt massively let us down, were mercenaries or simply weren't good enough.
That's not the worst, it's the most disappointing/underperforming.
Half of the replies, including OP himself, answered wrong :lol:
 

Tyrion

Full Member
Joined
Feb 16, 2014
Messages
5,232
Location
Ireland
Sancho? Really? How has he looked like he hasn't cared? His performances this season have already eclipsed his whole of last season, and it feels like there's a couple more gears he can hit. Rest of the list is pretty spot on, but that one is a headscratcher
Alot of fans think a player doesn't care if they're not playing well. It's that simple.
 

tomaldinho1

Full Member
Joined
Nov 26, 2015
Messages
18,113
That's not the worst, it's the most disappointing/underperforming.
Half of the replies, including OP himself, answered wrong :lol:
It's pretty awful though, the lack of pace and dynamism in that team makes me think I could get a run out as a sub
 

Jeppers7

Pogfamily Mafia
Joined
Feb 25, 2014
Messages
7,435
Some ridiculously good players in some of these lists. Just bias rather than the worst players. We’ve had some poor players play for us since SAF.
 

Baxter

Full Member
Joined
Oct 16, 2010
Messages
11,738
Valdes

Varela
McNair
Blackett
Darmian

Schweinsteiger
Schneiderlin

Sanchez
Andreas
Mkhitaryan

Falcao
 

paulscholes18

Full Member
Joined
Jan 4, 2013
Messages
20,237
Players who have played at least 30 games (Falcao you lucky man)

DDG
Wan Bissaka Varane Lindelof Darmian
Fred McTominay
Lingard Andreas Sanchez
Welbeck
 

RVN1991

New Member
Newbie
Joined
Mar 14, 2022
Messages
1,156
Valdes

AWB
Maguire
Rojo
Darmian

Schneiderlin
Schweinsteiger
Pereira

Sanchez
Falcao
Di Maria
 

Andersonson

Full Member
Joined
Jan 12, 2013
Messages
3,801
Location
Trondheim
Valdres (Salary, hard to pick anyone really)

AWB (insane transfer fee)
Bailly (Most hyped CB i've witnessed)
Maguire (insane transfer fee)
Blackett (Far from good enough)

Van de Beek (poor quality insane fee)
Schneiderlin (poor mans McTominay)
Di Maria (insane fee. Didnt fit the club)

Memphis (Overhyped)
Sanchez (Piss poor for us. Was finished)
Sancho (Overhyped, insane fee)