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How many penalties have we conceded this season vs the one we've been awarded?
It is not about penalties for or against. It is the whole picture. From small freekicks to bigger decisions. We all know that we have been treated differently. It is so clear for everyone. Here are referees in our games until now for this year Premier League games.How many penalties have we conceded this season vs the one we've been awarded?
As I said, either he has been instructed by PRUnited that he needs tp keep his mouth shut or he has his own policy of not speaking about refs, which is horrible in English football, because if you don't talk, media wont and if media wont refs will continue to feck us.Surprised ETH stayed silent and only replied ‘no comment’ when asked about the penalty.
Its been just as bad in the Champions League with the ridiculous penalty Copenhagen was given and nothing given against Bayern after Pellistri was shoved to the floor as he was about to tap the ball in to the net which should have been a penalty and a red card for denying a clear goalscoring opportunity.It is not about penalties for or against. It is the whole picture. From small freekicks to bigger decisions. We all know that we have been treated differently. It is so clear for everyone. Here are referees in our games until now for this year Premier League games.
S.Hooper 1 game, 1 win
Against Wolverhampton. Should have given us 2 penalties. Nothing. Didn't give Wolves a penalty and whole GreatBritain erupted like vulcano. Gave us 2 yellow cards.
A.Taylor 1 game, 1 lost
Against Arsenal when referees made sure we couldn't win. For example denying clear Garnacho goal just to allow Arsenal score after we should have had freekick. He gave us 3 yellow cards.
M.Oliver, 2 games, 1 win, 1 lost
Win against SheU where he gave them penalty for nothing. 1 yellow card for us.
Then we lost game against Tottenham. One of those where referees once again had some strange decisions against us. No penalty when Romero played goalkeeper when the score was 0-0. They tried some explanation they didn't even believe in them self. 4 yellow cards to us.
P.Tierney 1 game, 1 lost
Against ManCity when they won after scoring a ghost penalty goal. After that it is normal that confidence goes because you know where it was going. 4 yellow cards to us.
C.Cavanagh 1 game, 1 lost
Against Crystal Palace. He allowed their goal to stand despite that almost same happened for us against Burnley week before were Evans got his disallowed. Didn't gave us penalty we should have. Instead gave us 3 yellow cards.
A.Madley 1 game, 1 win.
Against Brentford. Nothing spectacular happened.
T.Harrington 1 game, 1 win
Against Burnely where they found some way to disallow Evans goal. They needed to twist and turn in every form to find something to disallow it with. 2 yellow cards.
J.Gillet 1 game, 1 lost
Against Brighton. Nothing spectacular happened. 2 yellow cards.
S.Atwell 1 game, 1 win
Against Nottingham. Nothing spectacular happened. 4 yellow cards.
I'm just disappointed in our club for not going out with any form of statement. Or manager for not going crazy in press conference. Same with players for that matter.
Media keeps pushing this narrative and have done for many seasons. ABU at its finest.https://x.com/skysportspl/status/1718977548946710854?s=46&t=ROmu_-lC8aQDfXAjJ05Fyw
Glad that Sky are covering the big talking point of the weekend. A yellow card incident that the referee dealt with by giving a yellow card.
Did they mention the pen at all?https://x.com/skysportspl/status/1718977548946710854?s=46&t=ROmu_-lC8aQDfXAjJ05Fyw
Glad that Sky are covering the big talking point of the weekend. A yellow card incident that the referee dealt with by giving a yellow card.
TALKSPORT would have had a field day spouting conspiracies had that penalty been awarded to usThis fecking shite is what we are talking about when we talk media bias. These clowns actually only complain about the fact that they think Shitty should have had a second penalty. Feck off.
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That should be a red though. Can't just go around booting players with no intention of playing the ball.https://x.com/skysportspl/status/1718977548946710854?s=46&t=ROmu_-lC8aQDfXAjJ05Fyw
Glad that Sky are covering the big talking point of the weekend. A yellow card incident that the referee dealt with by giving a yellow card.
Sure it shouldThat should be a red though. Can't just go around booting players with no intention of playing the ball.
That's a possible red....but I bet this doesn't get mentioned at all.That should be a red though. Can't just go around booting players with no intention of playing the ball.
Well that's certainly true in any game I've seen Oliver ref with United involved.It is not about penalties for or against. It is the whole picture. From small freekicks to bigger decisions. We all know that we have been treated differently. It is so clear for everyone. Here are referees in our games until now for this year Premier League games.
S.Hooper 1 game, 1 win
Against Wolverhampton. Should have given us 2 penalties. Nothing. Didn't give Wolves a penalty and whole GreatBritain erupted like vulcano. Gave us 2 yellow cards.
A.Taylor 1 game, 1 lost
Against Arsenal when referees made sure we couldn't win. For example denying clear Garnacho goal just to allow Arsenal score after we should have had freekick. He gave us 3 yellow cards.
M.Oliver, 2 games, 1 win, 1 lost
Win against SheU where he gave them penalty for nothing. 1 yellow card for us.
Then we lost game against Tottenham. One of those where referees once again had some strange decisions against us. No penalty when Romero played goalkeeper when the score was 0-0. They tried some explanation they didn't even believe in them self. 4 yellow cards to us.
P.Tierney 1 game, 1 lost
Against ManCity when they won after scoring a ghost penalty goal. After that it is normal that confidence goes because you know where it was going. 4 yellow cards to us.
C.Cavanagh 1 game, 1 lost
Against Crystal Palace. He allowed their goal to stand despite that almost same happened for us against Burnley week before were Evans got his disallowed. Didn't gave us penalty we should have. Instead gave us 3 yellow cards.
A.Madley 1 game, 1 win.
Against Brentford. Nothing spectacular happened.
T.Harrington 1 game, 1 win
Against Burnely where they found some way to disallow Evans goal. They needed to twist and turn in every form to find something to disallow it with. 2 yellow cards.
J.Gillet 1 game, 1 lost
Against Brighton. Nothing spectacular happened. 2 yellow cards.
S.Atwell 1 game, 1 win
Against Nottingham. Nothing spectacular happened. 4 yellow cards.
I'm just disappointed in our club for not going out with any form of statement. Or manager for not going crazy in press conference. Same with players for that matter.
How a professional referee can see that on a TV screen multiple times, see that as a normal way to challenge for a ball on the ground, and not think “no foul” is a clear and obvious mistake is just utterly, mind-bogglingly inexplicable.That's a possible red....but I bet this doesn't get mentioned at all.
It happened in Italy a few years ago when four minutes had played and one side had scored which then allowed for a match pause. Ref went to replay and reversed the previous four minutes, erased the goal, and awarded a penalty to the other team who would convert. Madness.I'm pretty sure it's already happened in the PL where a team has scored a goal but it's been chalked off to award a penalty to the other team for a foul at the other end a minute previously.
Are the saying Antony should have been sent off?So the upshot from ref watch is that United are once again being made an example of.
It's a clear red, but saying so weakens the conspiracy theorists argument when they bleat about the Hojlund foul.That should be a red though. Can't just go around booting players with no intention of playing the ball.
He's just bad at his job. No need to look for a super villain origin story.It cannot be stated enough that Michael Oliver is a Newcastle fan who would have been about 11 years old when he watched us rip the title away from them after being 12 points adrift.
He should have never been allowed near a Manchester United game, and it's evident nearly every time he's involved in one that he hates us.
He's good enough to be cherry-picked for random games in UAE though. I'm not on the corruption-train but it will probably have an effect that's close to the same thing. A dog won't bite the hands that feed him.He's just bad at his job. No need to look for a super villain origin story.
Game was already lost by then. They said he was lucky to stay onAre the saying Antony should have been sent off?
It's shocking, but you won't hear too much about it.How a professional referee can see that on a TV screen multiple times, see that as a normal way to challenge for a ball on the ground, and not think “no foul” is a clear and obvious mistake is just utterly, mind-bogglingly inexplicable.
That’s Ben Thatcher levels of assault minus the “running full pelt into the situation” bit, and literally the definition of endangering the safety of an opponent. But like I’ve said multiple times this season, smashing someone in the head does not become safe just because a referee’s head seems to be empty. The head and brain is quite an important part of the body for normal people and someone should start telling refs that.
This is what they want you to think and say. One decisions for. 55 against. Just like Wolves game. We don’t get 2 penalties. Wolves don’t get one. And there is uproar why didn’t Wolves get penalty.I don't think we can moan too much about yesterday's var decision, let's be honest it all even itself out, it was only last season in the same fixture we got great fortune with that first goal that was offside
let's be honest it all even itself out
Probably more, that 115 is as of 2020 or something like that if i’m not mistaken.I think we can add 1 more case (Oliver) to the 115 charges to become 116 now?
The thing about that decision is that it’s one single decision that’s stayed in the collective consciousness as this great injustice (that referees felt needed to be made up for and was made up for with multiple shocking decisions in the following months) despite being legally correct (albeit with the law being an absolute arse) due to the media pressure that ensued.I don't think we can moan too much about yesterday's var decision, let's be honest it all even itself out, it was only last season in the same fixture we got great fortune with that first goal that was offside
Indeed. We need to see more fire not just in our players but from the entire club. They should be enraged by the calls and make more noise!This. Situation we are in is beyond incompetence. You can’t have 4 crazy decisions deciding 4 games so we lose. 4 of 5 games We lost are directly being decided by referees and VAR. Arsenal, Tottenham, CP and now ManCity. There needs to be investigations. People are now questioning integrity of the game and I understand them. It is just shame it took so long when this have been happening for lot of seasons.
Yesterday, I wasn’t even mad. Everyone knew ManCity will get decisions their way. Everyone. This is no longer football. Sadly. What I’m dissapointed is what you wrote about. Silence from our club. Silence from manager. Silence from players. It is like they accept it as long as they get their weekly wages.
Yeah but he's consistently really bad when reffing United games.He's just bad at his job. No need to look for a super villain origin story.
The fact he’s in UAE 2 days prior doing work for people with a direct connection to city’s owners should not be allowed full stop. Even if nothing happens it’s a huge conflict of interest.He's just bad at his job. No need to look for a super villain origin story.
Sure, his freelancing in UAE is suspicious. But I didn't talk about implausibility of corruption.The fact he’s in UAE 2 days prior doing work for people with a direct connection to city’s owners should not be allowed full stop. Even if nothing happens it’s a huge conflict of interest.
Just to write it off as someone bad at their job while football all over the world corruption is being exposed which has been happening for years is exactly what they would want.
It would be a massive surprise to me now if it’s not exposed over time the premier league is completely corrupt. It’s hardly anything new just look at Rio’s drug ban compared to others been going on forever.
You responded to me, and I don't think it's farfetched at all.Sure, his freelancing in UAE is suspicious. But I didn't talk about implausibility of corruption.
The person I was responding to suggested that Oliver watching us beat Newcastle to the title when he was a kid could also have something to do with it. That seems a bit farfetched.