Is it enough to report posts for low quality or trolling posts?
What are the actual rules for reporting posts?
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Jamie (@Vault Dweller) are here to talk about United's dreadful home defeat at the hands of Big Ange's Tottenham Hotspur. Should this have been the end of Ten Hag? How long does he actually have left? And does Nik finally want ETH out?!
I just reported yours to test it out.
Generally no. Reporting posts should be limited to posts that may or do violate forum rules:
https://www.redcafe.net/help/terms/
Well, the only caveat being if you spot something that's not covered that you believe should be.
We have input into the rules.
What do you mean to say by that?
that you being from the staff should ban this fella for using an against the rules disguised misogynist word, therefore being a misogynist cvnt
PD: nothing man, just being ironically annoying
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Yes, and unhelpfully annoying at that. I don't like the word either, but it's a common curse in English, it is what it is. It's mostly regulated by the autocorrect (please don't evade it), except if it's used against other forum members of course.
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Suddenly it wasn't really unhelpfull when reading your answer. And BTW I'm not going after you at all, far from it, just using the bold sentence.
This single little example portraits quite a bit how everyone here (me included) finds it hard to really manage the subject at hand, specially when we go to extremes and how hard is it as whole in our western society, with all the differences between countries, to deal with certain costumes.
The "it's a common curse in English. it is what it is" it's the exact wrong response many here used to defend Enzo: "hey you know, it's football banter, it's just what it is"...and in both cases it doesn't lack truth in it, it is what it is and many times ends there without any deep thought about it in it's respective context.
Yet the lack of that deep thought it's the root of it and why it's plain wrong, not the rules or context that we sometimes allow ourselves to insult, banter, treat each other in public or privatly.
The real PROBLEM HERE, we all have here, is that we as persons still can use or see the word cvnt, black, retard, gay, sudaca, paleto, etc etc as an OFFENSIVE or DEROGATORY word, that's it's the real issue and what makes it so hard to deal with it.
Because given the context some people might say, hey I say cvnt to my dearest friends and it's true, but the other meaning of the word when we use it as a derogatory term never ceased to exist and depending on the context (public, private, etc etc) it changes too.
It seems that in this thread the "answer/solution" or more spread reaction goes from: hey it is what it is, just a banter song, no matter what it actually says or uses as derogatory terms, no matter that it was sang by a pro footballer in public and justifying it because France did, do and will do freaking discriminatory shyte and apparently we do less...to what a racist, retarded cvnt from that arsehole of a country.
Maybe we can conccur that this thread it's slowly turning into quite a mess.
That's a long-winded response, but is 'cnut' actually seen as a misogynistic curse in English? It's not my native language, not yours either, and it's not commonly used in Canada - so it seems to me like neither of us knows. So could you provide some evidence for why 'cnut' should be banned from the forum?
I'm open to that possibility myself, but please respond next in the admin forum, cause this isn't the right place for that discussion.
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from my meanderings it's something like this
USA: very offensive and misogynistic
UK: offensive but not misogynistic
Australia: can be offensive but often used more jovially
Are you kiddin? come on, nobody needs to be a native language speaker to know that.
Of course It's an insult, but like any insult, given the context, can also be use as term of endearment. That wasn't the point of my post neither.
I wasn't asking for any type of measure, just pointing out, how many examples of "it is what it is " we have everyday, every minute and that the root of the problem it's way deeper than how we banter, how we justify the use of a certain term in certain context and how this thread it's going to hell.
Enzo was wrong, the song is racist, he was caught , he should be ask about it.
On a general note, the organizations must analize how to deal with football banter in general to not end in a "it is what it is" situation because of how long a certain costume, activity or habit have been used.
Nope. 'Kut' is a common curse in Dutch, it means the exact same thing (although it's used differently, more like 'feck'), but it's not at all seen as misogynistic.
It's just not as simple as you're saying. And btw, a bunch of the other swearwords you listed earlier are now indeed seen as unacceptable and would result in a warning here.
I wasn't reporting anyone nor I want any kind of report towards the post quote with an emoji, far from it.
I actually think that what we talked there pretty much belongs to that thread.
I actually think that what we talked there pretty much belongs to that thread.
Well, I disagree and this was the closest existing thread to what was necessary, so here you go.
Come on, I guess Cheimoon felt it was some sort of attack against him, it wasn't, it was just using a sentence he used as a trigger to express sthg that has to do a lot of how people were interacting in that thread and the subject at hand that created that thread.
I never even in the slightest was reporting nor Cheimoon nor the original post I've answered with an emoji. Nor I want to report either of them. I know both of you know that.
You little devil, you.
He didn’t.
I didn’t say you were. I just said I moved it to the closest thing readily available.
If you want to continue discussing it with @Cheimoon here, go for it.
Always
What we were talking there was very much related to the topic of the thread it was posted, it wasn't a chat between me and Cheimoon, but you already know that, I don't get why you've felt this was need it, I'm far from a troll, but so be it.
Good deal.
I'm in no way offended or feeling attacked, but I do think this discussion isn't for the thread, which is why is asked for it to be moved (I can't moderate in the CE myself) to whatever admin thread works - as I had already indicated in my post a bit above.
Yes, it's a related topic, but not the same. That chant is racist no matter what you think of the word 'cnut' and we shouldn't distract the discussion again. It's true, of course, that meanings and perceptions of words change over time, but that's not what that thread was about, so let's keep it focused.
In the meantime, if you truly have an opinion about the word 'cnut', you can discuss it here.
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It’s not that hard, if you’re using terms like black, gay etc to talk down to someone, you’re using something which shouldn’t be derogatory in a manner of it being so. The word cnut doesn’t single out a group of people for a characteristic they have no control over. If I call someone a dick head, there isn’t a group of people with actual dicks growing out of their head that will feel bad.
cnut is like con in french or coño in spanish. 99% of the time it's vulgar but not misogynistic, I'm not even sure if there is a scenario where it's actually misogynistic. In fact the funny thing about it is that it has the exact same meaning than calling someone a dick or an asshole.
In British (and probably Irish, Australian) English this is exactly what it is. It's very much an equal opportunities insult, and is barely any different from the examples you listed.
In America, though, they do seem to use it in a gendered way for some reason, and it is used more towards women. I think this is probably where @Fobal's perception comes from.
I could see that, though I seem to remember that it's not commonly used in the US. Also a similar issue could happen with fanny but reversed.
I never hear it in Canada for sure.
I did think I should add my social awareness is fairly limited!You don't get out enough, mate.
How common would you say it is?I did think I should add my social awareness is fairly limited!
It's more that you have enough sense to not hang around ruffians such as @Dr. Dwayne.
I'd wager it's less common around Ottawa but it's definitely grown in popularity in recent years.I did think I should add my social awareness is fairly limited!
This is true.
These are conscious life choices.
I'd say the Boys has normalised it a bit. Or its just become more normalised in general maybe.
Its origins are obviously deeply misogynist being an crude term for female genitalia used as an insult. It has become far more acceptable over the last few decades in the UK and even more so in Australia, where is can even be a positive term. It has certainly disconnected itself from its original context to some degree there. Far less so in the US where is is still generally viewed as the worst swear word/insult.