It's not that simple. In some countries, especially poorer ones, this is not always possible.Should be ID’d to set up an account. Only way it stops. It’s amazing government haven’t forced these tech companies to do this.
That’s what solidarity is. It’s making a collective sacrifice. It doesn’t have to be for ever, they can organise a 24 hour black out initially, then give the Social Media providers a period of time to come up with a solution, then double the black out time if it’s not good enough and rinse and repeat.Agree with you but it is highly unlikely to happen. A lot of the players use Insta / Twitter / TikTok for the promotion of their own person brand. From a monetisation point of view, it makes no sense to jump ship.
BTW not condoning any of the abuse that players took, nor suggesting if you dance with the devil then a price must be paid.
Is it especially young people?As long as the internet is freely accessible by everyone (especially children and teens) the only way to completely escape racial abuse online is to go offline.
This. It’s disgusting, it was sadly predictable based on social media over the past several years, although I feel the negatives are given too much attention and it makes these little trolls feel too important when they see there actions trending on Twitter. Reality is 10000s posted support, and the ones that posted support received likes and positive comments. The minority that posted racist abuse were drowned out. My advice don’t give them (racist) time or attention…. Don’t comment, simply report.I went to Saka's Instagram, and positive messages are drowning out the rubbish which is a major improvement and nice to see.
I’m 38 and unfortunately it’s just as bad in our age group. The difference is (certainly online) that the 20 somethings are probably more likely to be actively involved in multiple social accounts whereas people our age are either quite active on a couple and not on others or relatively passive on all. Add to that more likelihood of kids and other things stopping screen time.On the issue of racism itself, has anyone noticed this is becoming a lot more common place now in England? What's especially concerning is i've seen more and more of this coming from people in their 20's - i'm 35 so these are a generation after me. I didnt see that much racism when I was growing up but now, christ its bad! Genuinely worried where this country is headed and its gotten to a point where I am not sure I want my kids growing up here and being subjected to it.
I would assume that the allure of the forbidden and transgressive has more pull on young people. I also think that most trolls aren't adults.Is it especially young people?
Some are real eg name with actual known followers. Example is the knot who works for Savills.I have a hard time taking the internet seriously so maybe I'm dumb but are they actually real accounts? Twitter is rife with fake accounts and - for whatever reason - they seem to only exist to get comments and retweets, which is precisely what this type of abuse would bring.
I imagine there's definitely actual abuse but it seems hard to fully comprehend the 'reality' given how much of a mess Twitter is at this point.
I fail to grasp this. The government already knows who everyone is. Are there verified accounts out there that the government cant trace to the actual people? Especially ones where people use their real life names?If you trust the government that's fine. In cases where you risk getting jailed (or worse) for having a negative opinion on those in power it becomes more problematic.
True, but it’s amplified by a complete lack of accountability online and supplemented by troll culture.So long as racism exists in society it will of course, exist on the Internet. The issue isn’t so much the racism online as it is the racism in the UK.
This is why Saka should have chosen Nigeria. On the whole, England will never love him the way Nigeria will.
Neville's constant digs at Boris/the Government are great.Tweet
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Yep. I was going to say trying being racist here and see what happens. It's because the admins and mods care.Saw a tweet with the n word and it amazed me that the word isn't blocked/amended.
Can't even post l-o-l, feck, cnut, YAWN, lma-o, rof.l etc on this comparatively tiny forum without it being blocked or autocorrected.
Doesn't really matter what they want do to, the abuse via social media, racism and otherwise, has reached a point where it's fairly obvious that it needs to be controlled at an entirely different level. The income from Facebook, twitter, Instagram etc isn't exactly small, so a bare minimum should be that the people responsible for the platforms are properly moderating it.To put it simply there is absolutely nothing you can do about it. We live in an era of complete internet ambiguity.
Facebook, Twitter and Instagram make too much money to be willing to moderate their platforms to the degree needed where you need identification to make an account.
People talk about authorities being granted such ready access to things like IP addresses etc but people in general loath the idea of their personal data so freely available to police etc.
The second thing to mention is that abuse via messaging isn’t seen as a high priority compared to other online crimes. The threshold for Facebook/Twitter etc to give up personal information of their users in a timely manner needs to be very high.
Moderate it? Surely you don't mean people reviewing tweets after they were posted and reported by other users?Doesn't really matter what they want do to, the abuse via social media, racism and otherwise, has reached a point where it's fairly obvious that it needs to be controlled at an entirely different level. The income from Facebook, twitter, Instagram etc isn't exactly small, so a bare minimum should be that the people responsible for the platforms are properly moderating it.
Start handing out absolutely insane fines and they'll suddenly come up with solutions that works.
I did think we were turning a corner with Ig a few months back but that was all pr work. Unless government legislation comes in, there is zero chance of these social media companies moderating their platforms to the extent necessary.Doesn't really matter what they want do to, the abuse via social media, racism and otherwise, has reached a point where it's fairly obvious that it needs to be controlled at an entirely different level. The income from Facebook, twitter, Instagram etc isn't exactly small, so a bare minimum should be that the people responsible for the platforms are properly moderating it.
Start handing out absolutely insane fines and they'll suddenly come up with solutions that works.
Moderating is just a general term.Moderate it? Surely you don't mean people reviewing tweets after they were posted and reported by other users?
This can be done somehow with AI which is already pretty good with words/context recognition, and those flagged posts would need to be reviewed by so called moderators.
My only concern is I doubt social media platforms would like to take that responsibility. They are more used to reacting when absolutely forced to, or to flagged posts. The fines on the other hand should be directed at users, but it'd require ID processing and again, I don't see anyone seriously considering it.
I feel it has always been this bad but the recent decade highlighted much more how many racist idiots are out there since everyone and their mother now understands how to use facebook, twitter etc.Has the abuse always been to this level or has it ramped up a lot over the past couple of years?
Sure, but once you get mandatory IDing on social media, it's an easy next step to make you link ID for any website you sign up for.Also regarding the proposed solution of ID verification checks - its a tricky one. The liberal in me considers it a bit of a red zone as far as data protection and privacy is concerned, but again, social media participation isn't an obligatory human right, so people can always opt to ignore the platforms altogether if they don't like such enforcements. There's also the likelihood that tech giants will never happily agree to such proposals, and will likely vigorously lobby them away.
No. Which is why the calls for authentication/ID always sound ridiculous to me. The only people that wouldn't ultimately hurt in some way, either through the data laundering + algorithm generation the tech companies would use such data for, illicit govt use or whatever, are the people it'd be set up to detect.Is there anything Twitter could realistically do regarding authentication that the folks on 4chan or reddit won't find a way around in about 10 minutes?
