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This story is just mad.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/claudiakoer...disguised-herself-as-black-for-yea#.ijq9Q1VdV
http://www.buzzfeed.com/claudiakoer...disguised-herself-as-black-for-yea#.ijq9Q1VdV
Predictably enough, twitter's gone bananas with assorted bickering about transgender vs pretending to be a different race.Wow. This is suitably bizarre.
It's clear she has some deep seated identity issues. Even though I lolled at the 'black dad' pic, I feel bad for her real dad.
Maybe now that transgender isn't a taboo, we'll start to see people bleaching/darkening their skin and claiming they are a 'white person trapped in a black person's body' and vice versa as the new social barrier.
I hope it doesn't come to that, but the whole skin whitening thing is massive in the Asian subcontinent.
Bizarre, reminds me a bit of the anti gay Republican that won an election pretending to be black, in Texas of all places. I think a Republican from Florida pretended he was Hispanic last year too.
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I don't know much about the subject but, transgenders are 'accepted' because we consider that gender is a social construct, so why trans-ethnicity couldn't be accepted for the same reasons?Trying to equate being transgender with...whatever the feck this is is like those crazy Christians saying gay marriage is a step away from bestiality.
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I'm sure there are way better points that cleverer and more knowledgeable people than myself can make (and if I find any good pieces I'll be sure to post them) but...I don't know much about the subject but, transgenders are 'accepted' because we consider that gender is a social construct, so why trans-ethnicity couldn't be accepted for the same reasons?
It's a parody account (I think)That's one of those stats you pull out of your arse, isn't it?
I know that it's extremely simplistic and narrow minded but for me, if you have a penis, nature chose for you. There is no middle ground, you are a man.I'm sure there are way better points that cleverer and more knowledgeable people than myself can make (and if I find any good pieces I'll be sure to post them) but...
Say for example you're of mixed-race parentage. I'd say you then have every right to identify culturally/racially/whatever however the hell you like. It's a personal decision based how you personally experience your identity and it'd be entirely unacceptable for anyone to deny you, for example, your black identity and affinity with black history or culture etc. because you've happened to end up with genes for lighter skin.
I'd say that's somewhat similar (not exactly the same, but perhaps somewhat comparable) to being transgender. We're all raised in a society where binary gender is the norm (with the exception of those living in societies with more than 2 genders) and the culture we ingest is a product of that. We might feel like one side of that binary sums us up entirely, or sometimes like one and sometimes the other, or both equally or neither, and I'd say that its unacceptable to undermine that personal identification purely based on the ground of physiology. Bear in mind that the majority of trans people aren't people who have gender re-assignment, they're non-binary people who exist somewhere in the middle, or outside, of the current binary.
For me both of those examples are clearly different to just appropriating someone elses' race despite having no connection to the culture, history and experiences that may entail. Hope that makes sense?
I'd certainly hope so.It's a parody account (I think)
Yeah, the picture seems artificial.It's a parody account (I think)
I think the thing I'd say is that the connection that we as a society have made between having a penis and a certain societal role is entirely of our own making and that there are a lot of people it doesn't chime with and who are ostracized and bullied because of that. Like for example, think of the people who get called 'gay' at school, it was generally those with 'male' physiology who didn't 'act male' in a simplistic sense. I think there needs to be a huge conversation about the implications of assigning gender to kids based on their sex and the extent to which it's incredibly damaging. A discussion for another thread, perhaps.I know that it's extremely simplistic and narrow minded but for me, if you have a penis, nature chose for you. There is no middle ground, you are a man.
Now it's not really about color per se but I know white peoples who grew up around Africans and identifies themselves as member of that group of people, you can embrace and adopt an other culture, which obviously is different from pretending to be physically black.
I agree with that, I think that it's the heart of the problem we attach social behaviors to biological traits, which tend to confuse peoples.I think the thing I'd say is that the connection that we as a society have made between having a penis and a certain societal role is entirely of our own making and that there are a lot of people it doesn't chime with and who are ostracized and bullied because of that. Like for example, think of the people who get called 'gay' at school, it was generally those with 'male' physiology who didn't 'act male' in a simplistic sense. I think there needs to be a huge conversation about the implications of assigning gender to kids based on their sex and the extent to which it's incredibly damaging. A discussion for another thread, perhaps.
It's like the Louis C.K. thing. "I'm not saying white people are better, but being white is clearly better. Who can even argue?"What benefits are there to appropriating being a black American? I'm a bit loathe just writing this off as make believe.
Eddie Murphy did it first on SNLAnd once again, Dave Chappelle has shown that he was ahead of his time.
Really? The Clayton Bigsby thing?Eddie Murphy did it first on SNL
yepIt's like the Louis C.K. thing. "I'm not saying white people are better, but being white is clearly better. Who can even argue?"
There's evidence to suggest that gender dysphoria can occur for actual genetic and hormonal reasons, i.e it isn't just a psychological thing. I find it difficult to imagine that people wanting to be a different race can be anything but psychological.I don't know much about the subject but, transgenders are 'accepted' because we consider that gender is a social construct, so why trans-ethnicity couldn't be accepted for the same reasons?
Any proof of this?There's evidence to suggest that gender dysphoria can occur for actual genetic and hormonal reasons, i.e it isn't just a psychological thing. I find it difficult to imagine that people wanting to be a different race can be anything but psychological.
I'm willing to accept that too, however there is nothing stopping me from electing to declare as a female from now on, getting surgery, implants, hormones... and criticizing my choice to do so would be considered as transphobic, regardless of whether I actually feel I am female, or have too much time on my hands. The same way homosexuality should be accepted whether it is a choice or genetics or a blend. So if someone isn't being exploitative regarding what racial identity they identify with, why shouldn't we accept their choice?Not really, which is why I only said there's evidence to suggest it. I think it's generally considered to be fairly likely, though.
Wow. This is suitably bizarre.
It's clear she has some deep seated identity issues. Even though I lolled at the 'black dad' pic, I feel bad for her real dad.
Maybe now that transgender isn't a taboo, we'll start to see people bleaching/darkening their skin and claiming they are a 'white person trapped in a black person's body' and vice versa as the new social barrier.
I hope it doesn't come to that, but the whole skin whitening thing is massive in the Asian subcontinent.
That's a little bit provocative but there is evidence that we share genes with chimpanzee, so should we understand that someone ignores that he is human and identifies himself as a chimpanzee?There's evidence to suggest that gender dysphoria can occur for actual genetic and hormonal reasons, i.e it isn't just a psychological thing. I find it difficult to imagine that people wanting to be a different race can be anything but psychological.
Affirmative action in admissions can be considered a benefit, particularly if the person has a middle or upper middle class. For college and grad school admissions, it can open doors that her GPA or other grades may not have been able to do. Jobs in academia would also probably be one of the places that give extra weight to gender and race because faculty diversity is a big thing for most schools.What benefits are there to appropriating being a black American? I'm a bit loathe just writing this off as make believe.
Very true. She claims to have gone to Howard so the race benefit evaporates there, but I read something that claimed you needed more than 100 points on the SAT as an Asian to be put on the same level as a white student. Another discussion though.Affirmative action in admissions can be considered a benefit, particularly if the person has a middle or upper middle class. For college and grad school admissions, it can open doors that her GPA or other grades may not have been able to do. Jobs in academia would also probably be one of the places that give extra weight to gender and race because faculty diversity is a big thing for most schools.
Outside of that, I can't really think of many. Maybe she hoped she'd be better at basketball?
Or a human identifying themselves as a banana.That's a little bit provocative but there is evidence that we share genes with chimpanzee, so should we understand that someone ignores that he is human and identify himself as a chimpanzee?
I don't know about banana's genes but I saw an english man who 'pretended' to be a dog.Or a human identifying themselves as a banana.
The Washington Post says the school assumed she was black because all of her portfolio was black portraits and she got a full-ride. Maybe she thought she'd lose her scholarship if she showed up white so this is all an elaborate attempt to go to school for free that spun out of control. There has to have been a movie about this...Very true. She claims to have gone to Howard so the race benefit evaporates there, but I read something that claimed you needed more than 100 points on the SAT as an Asian to be put on the same level as a white student. Another discussion though.
The Washington Post says the school assumed she was black because all of her portfolio was black portraits and she got a full-ride. Maybe she thought she'd lose her scholarship if she showed up white so this is all an elaborate attempt to go to school for free that spun out of control. There has to have been a movie about this...