There's nothing wrong with owners who are running us for profit, within reason. In fact it's what I would prefer, as long as it's only them taking a small dividend each year while mostly looking to increase the actual value of the club. None of this saddling the club with debt and then forcing the club to pay that as well. The club being run more as a business means the club as a whole should be in a stronger position than one that is reliant on a sugar-daddy who could potentially pull out at any moment.You all do understand that everybody (including Ratcliffe) except Dubai will behave just like Glazers? Look for profit. With owners who chase profit you can't fight against oil clubs.
You want morale ground? That is fine. But then don't moan next 10, 20 years about lack of trophies.
The trouble is the moralists in this fanbase put them under same umbrella as Abu Dhabi/QatarI wouldn't mind Dubai to be honest. Won't be after any profit and have the best image of the Gulf States. We might be needing pockets that deep to compete going forward. At least for the near future.
Not necessarily, I support Utd since the mid 90' and I wouldn't be against oil money(not that I have any power to oppose that). All I want us is to be competitive again. If that means oil money then so be it. Doesn't really matter the faces, the names or the money origin as long as we make smart decisions in terms of managers, players and stop playing for Europa League spots.I am so surprised with the amount of people hoping for oil money. I simply can't understand how any who have supported United for more than a decade can be OK with that outcome. Assuming most who are hoping for oil money are newer football / Manchester United followers. Only explanation I can think of.
I've lived in the UAE for 5 years, most people who hate on the MENA region have never visited.The trouble is the moralists in this fanbase put them under same umbrella as Abu Dhabi/Qatar
That would be hilarious. Dubai is literally becoming the party capital of the world. Almost being ruined by a flagrant trade in the oldest profession. Definitely not in the same umbrella.The trouble is the moralists in this fanbase put them under same umbrella as Abu Dhabi/Qatar
Not when the Glazers want 6 billion. Add 2 Billion on infrastructure and 2 on players over 10 years.Nailed it.
Our club is big enough to pay for itself under competent owners. We can improve the squad, upgrade our facilities and move forward as a club organically over a reasonable timeline.
Theres no need for mega investments dripping in oil and / or blood, and there should be no place for Glazer-esque parasites draining our lifeblood while the roof falls in.
There's a clear middle path here which makes far more sense. To rebuild the club without selling our soul.
Looking at Twitter 9 out of 10 "fans" wouldn't mind and actually prefer Dubai. Even on here I can see it. Sad. They probably don't understand that this club can take care of its own and be successful, it's just that the Glazers are incompetent from a sporting point of view.I would expect big protests if that was going to happen.
I probably would too.This.
I’ve stopped watching City and Newcastle for this reason. I’ve got no interest in it.
I probably would with United. But hope that doesn’t happen.
Hard to equate Twitter to match going fans though. I’m sure there is plenty of them that won’t care, but there will also be a huge core of fans that would protest it.Looking at Twitter 9 out of 10 "fans" wouldn't mind and actually prefer Dubai. Even on here I can see it. Sad. They probably don't understand that this club can take care of its own and be successful, it's just that the Glazers are incompetent from a sporting point of view.
It's not the fans that decide either, they aren't paying 5 billion+ for ownershipHard to equate Twitter to match going fans though. I’m sure there is plenty of them that won’t care, but there will also be a huge core of fans that would protest it.
I’ve thought a lot about my own personal feelings on what I would do if that was the case. I only make it to Old Trafford every couple of months at the moment due to other commitments, so I wouldn’t be missed, but would I even be able to justify supporting if the club ends up in the hands of a state.
The thought of not watching or caring is bizarre and I can’t really get my head around it, but I think there’s a lot of people who will be in a moral dilemma.
Indeed, over the course of the 19th century Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar, the emirates that comprise the UAE (then collectively referred to as the Trucial States), and Oman all became British protectorates. The British Residency in the region was based in Bushire.The UAE was actually protected by Britain pre-oil so was Qatar I believe
Just seen they’re worth $2.3trillionJust read Apple interested in buying. Express Mirror Star all reporting it.
Not entirely sure you've understood what he meant by the club paying for itself given the 2bn you've added for infastructure and 2bn for players.Not when the Glazers want 6 billion. Add 2 Billion on infrastructure and 2 on players over 10 years.
10 billion all in. That is a lot of money to earn for a football club.
Realistically the only option is an oil state. Businesses will have a hard time turning a profit.